I swear on a stackof Korans

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I heard about this controversy on NPR the other day. A Mislim witness in a North Carolina sate court asked to be swron in on a Korean rather than the Bible and was told the court didn’t have one. A local Islamic organisation tried to donate Korans but was told that under a 1777 law witnesses swear on “the Holy Scriptures” (with the option of “affirming” instead).
The ACLU has offered its help to the Muslims but they refused for fear the ACLU would use the case for its won anti-religious puroses (no fools they!).

Here’s a link to the original story:
news-record.com/news/local/quran_061905_online.htm

and a follow-up:
news-record.com/news/local/gso/quranreax_062205.htm

Personally, I wouldn’y have a problem with offering Muslims a Koran to take the oath, or a Torah for Jews, or a Douay Bible for Catholics (you know that in NC "Holy Scriptures means KJV). But the constitutional lawyer they interviewd on NPR pointed out this could open the door for prople bringing any book at all and claiming it is their holy book (Dianetics for Tom Cruise, e. g.).
 
actually, i don’t think these judges have a leg to stand on.

if a muslim wishes to be sworn in on a quran (qu’ran) it expressis his desire to speak verily. i suspect that, for a muslim, swearing on the bible is similat to swaering on a sears catalog(ue?). i also suspect that a muslim mightn’t wish to put his hand on a bible.

respect is needful. in 1777, there weren’t any muslims in usa.

what might an atheist swear upon? himself???
 
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actually, i don’t think these judges have a leg to stand on.

if a muslim wishes to be sworn in on a quran (qu’ran) it expressis his desire to speak verily. i suspect that, for a muslim, swearing on the bible is similat to swaering on a sears catalog(ue?). i also suspect that a muslim mightn’t wish to put his hand on a bible.

respect is needful. in 1777, there weren’t any muslims in usa.

what might an atheist swear upon? himself???
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Atheists and others who do not believe in oaths (like some Christians) can “affirm”.

But really it’s up to the legislature to change the law, not up to judges to change it. Unfortunately, I can’t see the legislature doing that in the present climate. But before I criticise N. Carolina I’ll have to check on just what the situation is here in NY State.
 
…asked to be swron in on a Korean rather than the Bible…
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I’m sorry for harping on spelling errors, but this one was funny. Could I be sworn in on a Malaysian?
 
Grace and Glory:
I’m sorry for harping on spelling errors, but this one was funny. Could I be sworn in on a Malaysian?
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😃 Yeah, I noticed that as well… I was laughing at that… Personally, I prefer to swear on a German.
 
James_2:24 said:
😃 Yeah, I noticed that as well… I was laughing at that… Personally, I prefer to swear on a German.
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Just any German, or would it have to be the German Pope?
 
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didymus:
Atheists and others who do not believe in oaths (like some Christians) can “affirm”.
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In Arkansas, you don’t have to put your hand on a Bible. It’s “I swear or affirm…” for everyone.
 
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