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Finn_Bowen
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Granted, it was slight, but it was no doubt the metallic taste of blood. What do you think of this?
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LemonAndLime
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Red wine is high in levels of iron, which gives that metallic taste of blood.
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Richard320
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Be thankful and be scared. To one whom much has been given more is expected.
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YoungCanRCMale
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While Eucharistic Miracles do exist, it is much easier empirically to deal with those with the bread, consecrated into the Body, vs. the Blood, of which is the wine consecrated.
At least with the Eucharist, it is much more evident, being the substance is carbohydrate pressed into unleavened bread. The blood drops on the Eucharist involved in the Lasciano miracle would have been no doubt.
As for the Wine, I’d say this is more difficult to discern blood from wine here. The wine must be housed in a precious vessel of a metal (vs. clay or glass or something weirdly modern if your parish is violating the GIRM or liturgical rules). If your chalice is old, like all things according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics, things do break down. Even gold would break down after many years. So if it’s an old chalice that’s been used since the parish opened, made of a common metal like iron, tin, or copper, or a cheap alloy (mixed), and not gold or silver, it’s possible some trace elements did go into the wine and you might have tasted them.
However, a Catholic is to always believe in miracles, period. Why without them we wouldn’t have any saints!.
At least with the Eucharist, it is much more evident, being the substance is carbohydrate pressed into unleavened bread. The blood drops on the Eucharist involved in the Lasciano miracle would have been no doubt.
As for the Wine, I’d say this is more difficult to discern blood from wine here. The wine must be housed in a precious vessel of a metal (vs. clay or glass or something weirdly modern if your parish is violating the GIRM or liturgical rules). If your chalice is old, like all things according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics, things do break down. Even gold would break down after many years. So if it’s an old chalice that’s been used since the parish opened, made of a common metal like iron, tin, or copper, or a cheap alloy (mixed), and not gold or silver, it’s possible some trace elements did go into the wine and you might have tasted them.
However, a Catholic is to always believe in miracles, period. Why without them we wouldn’t have any saints!.
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englishredrose
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talk to your priest.
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Cavaille-Coll
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Sometimes God allows things like this for spiritual growth. Give thanks to Him, but don’t ask for more. He will give what gifts He wants to give.
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Jguerra
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Not unusual. I’ve served as both sacristan and EMHC. I experience the same effect many times. I attribute it to a hastily-cleansed chalice, especially on holy days of obligation with a lot of communicants and not enough attention to purification.
There’s a deacon’s wife who comes in weekly to really wash the purified vessels. That would explain the hefty bottle of Dawn at the sink in the sacristy (there is no sacrarium–all consecrated species are consumed at each Mass).
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There’s a deacon’s wife who comes in weekly to really wash the purified vessels. That would explain the hefty bottle of Dawn at the sink in the sacristy (there is no sacrarium–all consecrated species are consumed at each Mass).
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InJesusItrust
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Congratulations, now you faith should be stronger. There are many videos of such miracles on youtube.
I wish it could happen in front of my dad (unbeliever) who takes me to church.
I wish it could happen in front of my dad (unbeliever) who takes me to church.
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LemonAndLime
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Why?
Common sense. Red wine, high in iron, kept in a metal container = metallic taste. It is over scrupulous to think that everything is a miracle. No harm in believing it is, but while it is literally the blood of Christ that does not mean it tastes like it. If I talked to my priest he would likely to say there is more likely to be a rational explanation.
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MissBorgia
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I have as well. it shut up any tiny bit of doubt about the true divine presence.
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SilverLight
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I think I have to but it may aslo be from my mouth its hard to tell.
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NeedsMercy
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Okay, I guess I have been looking at this from a totally different angle. If one tasted blood, or the metallic taste thereof, couldn’t it just be gingivitis or periodontal disease? When you hear hoofbeats outside the window…
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the_phoenix
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… being that my apartment is really high up from the ground, I just may wonder if it could be one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse.When you hear hoofbeats outside the window…
More seriously, I am gratified to hear about Finn Bowen’s faith experience.
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Anna_Claire
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I’m not sure what you believed you tasted. I doubt that you tasted anything but wine.
In the Gospel, Jesus asks James and John (and, by implication, all of us), “Can you drink the cup that I will drink?” The Cup represents not only the sufferings of Jesus, it also represents the suffering of us all.
Although we do believe that what we drink is the Blood of Christ, we also believe that Christ is now risen. Our mass is not a re-crucifixion at which his body is bleeding once again. He oes not suffer at each mass…therefore no real human blood…it’s sacramental blood.
When we drink from the Cup…we taste wine, not blood.
In the Gospel, Jesus asks James and John (and, by implication, all of us), “Can you drink the cup that I will drink?” The Cup represents not only the sufferings of Jesus, it also represents the suffering of us all.
Although we do believe that what we drink is the Blood of Christ, we also believe that Christ is now risen. Our mass is not a re-crucifixion at which his body is bleeding once again. He oes not suffer at each mass…therefore no real human blood…it’s sacramental blood.
When we drink from the Cup…we taste wine, not blood.
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Fiasco
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It`s certainly common sense to look first for a rational explanation. The other approach is dangerous. It can lead to an expectation of more of the same, or similar.
If Finn means that it happened after receiving the Host, it can easily come ffrom our own mouth, as already suggested.
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TrueLight
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Because anytime you feel that you received some special ‘grace’ from the Lord in the form of a miracle or a locution, it is a good idea to speak your spiritual director. That way you have a third party involved.
Sometimes it is the mind playing tricks or worse. Sometimes it is indeed a miracle.
One needs a spiritual director.
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Anna_Claire
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“If I talked to my priest he would likely to say there is more likely to be a rational explanation”
True on that. The church will always seek a rational explanation first…and 99.9 % of the time, there is one.
True on that. The church will always seek a rational explanation first…and 99.9 % of the time, there is one.
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englishredrose
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then it makes all the more sense to talk to your priest because it will help to put the experience into a proper place.
It has taken me about 7 years to kind of come to terms with a totally different experience. Non Christians would accept my theory. Christians well, the one priest gently said God wouldn’t work like that but I was still kind of denial. This immediate November a new priest to the parish but very experienced in listening, I didn’t even get the whole ‘thing’ out and he was very quick to jump in and explained, I was so run down… I sat there like a stranded codfish for a few minutes digesting it as such. I been holding onto something else on an uncomfortable level and he just calmly put it right. It has taken a few month to adjust 7 years of uneasy thinking but I’d rather think that.
So you could spend the rest of your life holding onto something that you felt/taste happen but at least by talking to the priest will allow you to properly process what happened and be able to carry on your spiritual journey.
And if the priest does kind of try to foil what you are feeling and you feel that strongly about it then its kind of upto you to, not prove him wrong etc, but claim your stance. I am happy that experience is better explained. A better explanation doesn’t always make it right as we know but is far easier to handle mentally. That was the only ‘experience’ that he didn’t let me finish and I am happy enough.
You might be suprised too, to what else he may have to say that hasn’t been covered here.
It has taken me about 7 years to kind of come to terms with a totally different experience. Non Christians would accept my theory. Christians well, the one priest gently said God wouldn’t work like that but I was still kind of denial. This immediate November a new priest to the parish but very experienced in listening, I didn’t even get the whole ‘thing’ out and he was very quick to jump in and explained, I was so run down… I sat there like a stranded codfish for a few minutes digesting it as such. I been holding onto something else on an uncomfortable level and he just calmly put it right. It has taken a few month to adjust 7 years of uneasy thinking but I’d rather think that.
So you could spend the rest of your life holding onto something that you felt/taste happen but at least by talking to the priest will allow you to properly process what happened and be able to carry on your spiritual journey.
And if the priest does kind of try to foil what you are feeling and you feel that strongly about it then its kind of upto you to, not prove him wrong etc, but claim your stance. I am happy that experience is better explained. A better explanation doesn’t always make it right as we know but is far easier to handle mentally. That was the only ‘experience’ that he didn’t let me finish and I am happy enough.
You might be suprised too, to what else he may have to say that hasn’t been covered here.
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Cadellin
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What do I make of it?
It strikes me as one of those stories you hear of some one who took a communion host home and cut it in half with a knife and blood poured out of it. The fact is that Jesus shed his blood once and for all on the cross and therefore any stories you hear of hosts shedding blood are complete nonsense. So whatever you tasted it certainly wasn’t the blood of Christ. That’s not to say you didn’t taste something, but it wasn’t blood from the host - not that you said it was, but some in this thread have taken it that way.
It strikes me as one of those stories you hear of some one who took a communion host home and cut it in half with a knife and blood poured out of it. The fact is that Jesus shed his blood once and for all on the cross and therefore any stories you hear of hosts shedding blood are complete nonsense. So whatever you tasted it certainly wasn’t the blood of Christ. That’s not to say you didn’t taste something, but it wasn’t blood from the host - not that you said it was, but some in this thread have taken it that way.
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TrueLight
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Are there not any such manifestations approved by the Church? Does anyone know?
Don’t get me wrong - my first reaction is always skepticism, but that doesn’t mean God doesn’t still perform miracles.
Recently, I went to listen to a “divine mercy” speaker and he always carries with him the Divine Mercy picture of Jesus. He said many times after he speaks, and people come to venerate the image, Jesus leaves the frame so that he is no longer in the frame. He then went on to mention about 20 cities and countries where this has taken place after he speaks.
I was like, “umm okay”. And I actually got up and left after that.
However, God is all powerful and he may give some “graces” to individual for whatever reason and that is why I think it is important that one speaks to one’s spiritual director to “test the spirits”.
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