I think it's finally happened I've lost my faith in christianity

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Today I think I’ve become truly agnostic
about the divinity of jesus. I feel like there’s morevto this life something larger than what we see. I believe that there are some supernatural occurrences that happen. Maybe god will use this period for growth snd then I would come back to the faith. Or maybe this is just for now and tomorrow I will believe again. Who knows.
 
It is painful to struggle with faith. Been there, done that some years ago, but here I am! 🙂
May God bless you.

Consder at least some of my thoughts on the question of our inability to grasp the fullness of God’s truth:

Mystery of Redemption

Holy God, we do not grasp how awesome and incomprehensible are Your truths. We mistake our conceptions regarding You as the essence of the reality that they fail to encapsulate. Human Reason cannot make sense of God becoming subject to obedience, humility, selflessness and suffering, in love for His creatures! Thus, while we seek You, we are required to trust as little children.

We can only suspect a flicker of the magnitude of this God through His Creation of a stunningly vast universe containing massive expanding galaxies in an immensity of space. Yet, God of such greatness, You also create the fragile intricacy of tiny insects and the worlds of microscopic lifeforms in their intrinsic perfection! Holy God, open our minds and hearts to the supreme greatness and the sublime mystery of Your works!

From our tiny planet, so important to us but insignificant amongst the countless orbits of the universe, we dare to say ‘our God’ and ‘our Father’ in contemplating the Creator of all these marvels and capable of unknown wonders inconceivable to us. Perhaps the greatest wonder, however, is the love and mercy You show to Your human creatures on this planet, Earth!

All things are held in being in continuous creation within You. Yet, to our knowledge, only human creatures dare to sin. You require of us a life of charity and justice, of prayer and self-denial, of trust and faithfulness during our earthly existence—in promise of everlasting union with the everlasting I AM WHO AM, which is Yourself. Slow to trust, we are reluctant to accept sacred Your dream and plan for us as individuals and as community. The choice to reject or accept is ours.

The Angels, whom You created before us, also faced a choice to love and honour God or to serve themselves. Two-thirds obeyed God and now dwell with You in glory and delight. To the rebellious remainder, punishment was swift. Doubtless, You gave these glorious creatures generous opportunity to fulfil their radiant destiny!

Perhaps other life forms will, or have, faced such choices, for ‘there are many rooms’ in Your heavenly kingdom. If hidden amongst the planets in the myriad galaxies of Your immense Creation, You should choose to form creatures other than the Angels and humanity, I pray that they will serve You better, and that where they fail, Your mercy will be deep and embracing.

Yet many people habitually accept Your revelations and promises with spasmodic attention or with vague complacency. Before so great a God, the purest human zeal and the highest knowledge and goodness are as nothing. How intense should be our gratitude before the wonder of our relation to You. How great our repentance should be before the arrogance of neglecting our Creator’s laws and astonishing mercy! Holy God please lead us through awareness, repentance and rebirth into continuing spontaneity of response to Your creative love!

So that we in our unworthiness may be saved and made whole, through Your mercy the seeming-impossible occurs. The eternal Son of God enters the limitations of created time and matter. He assumes fully our humanity, while also retaining His infinite divinity. With His humble, obedient life as human being, He bridges the immeasurably vast difference between God and creature for all humankind!

In our disobedience and ingratitude, our God, You have not destroyed us, but have become for us—a defenceless infant…a humble labourer…a man murdered by Your chosen people. You have become for all time, food to be assimilated into the functions of the human body and soul of mere creatures, devout and lukewarm alike. You have become bread to be tabernacled in centuries of neglect before multitudes of unbelievers and of apathetic followers…cherished only by Your true friends. Yet even these have not lived without offence against You, excepting one pure woman, chosen as Mother—for the Son did not enter our nature in resplendence as a magnificent adult. Rather, the Father humbly, through an Angel, sought permission of the sinless young virgin to accept Him as a helpless embryo!

What is this humility, this faith, this patience, this obedience, this compassion that You show us, infinite God! We are proud, stubborn, untrusting and wayward, yet Your mercy remains open to endless human insult, for within time it is always subject to our personal acceptance or rejection. Repeatedly, You reiterate Your love and mercy in our hearts and through other persons. You reiterate them through Scripture and ministry of the Church, source of grace, sacrament and wisdom established by the Son to fulfil His promise to remain always with us.

Our God, who are You who so loves His ungrateful, ignorant, unworthy creatures! Behold the humility of eternal, infinite God, to love and desire us who are enmeshed in egoism that alienates us from each other and You! We begin to suspect the smallness of our vision, the confusion of our understanding, and the flawed nature of our enthroned Reason, with its inability to cope with these unfathomable, paradoxical truths.

Should we, in contemplating such things, wonder at human suffering! We begin to appreciate Jesus’ warning that unless one becomes as a little child one cannot enter God. We also begin to understand some of the causes of difficulties within our human condition, of the conflicts and miseries of our world, and of the corruption of our society in social and personal injustice and discord.

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We may regret or resent these global difficulties and evils, and our personal sufferings. We seek to evade them and to avoid discipline of our sensuality and materialism that bind us from the Spirit of God in our lives. We cling to our bonds although we are created for the freedom of eternal union with You our almighty Creator, despite the redeeming anguish, love, humility and submission of God incarnate in His forging of our bridge to You.

Yet should we not welcome that where You permit, we are tested in faith, labour and suffering to loosen excessive attachment to our limited mortal existence! Our need of You is often diverted into search for material satisfaction that increases our frustration and confirms our failure to love others and You truly.

When we choose against God, we curtail the working of Your grace in our lives. This choice draws disaster upon us in the form of injustice, intolerance, loneliness, immorality and war. If we then resent and blame You, we mock ourselves, because You owe us nothing, but offer all. Should it surprise us that sin brings retribution? Should we wonder why we endure natural disasters, when we betray the Creator of all things?

We are often aggrieved at the suffering of innocents, but answer lies in the racked body of the sinless Saviour. Jesus hangs dying in grief and pain to expiate the offences of all human persons for our eternal salvation. Through Jesus, lead us into childlike faith and cheerful daily acceptance of our vocations with their satisfactions and their difficulties.

Give us the spirit of the child whom You wish each to be as we say, “Here I am. Your will be done in and through me. Through Your Son, lead me beyond myself, beyond all created things, into Your infinite, loving self, in union with the communion of saints.”

Our God, as the consecrated bread is the infinite Son of God, yet is brittle, mutable wafer, so let me be one in You despite my frailty and unworthiness. Great God, Creator of all things, thank You for Your gifts of creation and existence, and for the mercy that restores Creation and eternal blessedness to Your difficult human creatures.

Have mercy, our God, for our limited understanding, our misconceptions, our pride and our self-doubts, along with the stark realities and sufferings of this world, frequently lead many of us to falter in faith or to abandon it completely.
We believe Lord God. Please increase our faith.

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Meditation on eternity and conversion

Eternal God, we cannot view existence in concepts other than in time or its cessation. The prospect of eternity seems always mysterious, sometimes unreal and occasionally alienating—unless we base our contemplation of eternal happiness in childlike trust alone.

Please strengthen our faith, for we may confuse our inability to comprehend Your realities, as absence of the realities themselves. Then, embroiled in the occupations and joys of our lives, or discouraged in life’s disappointments and losses, we may come to trust only in temporal reality. When we live only in the present reality, we cannot believe in our Creator as loving Parent, as Redeemer, or as guiding Spirit, with intimate relevance to our individual lives. Yet it appears even to the goldfish in his bowl, that his observation and response to his environment and experience is absolute. Clearly, he also is mistaken.

In abandoning faith, we betray our souls that long for union in Your love. We lose true joy, love and liberty in faith—receiving a stone, a scorpion, a snake, instead of living Bread and Water. Give us faith to penetrate confusion that envelops even some dedicated souls. Only Your gentle, loving mercy can make us the little children of Your Kingdom that Jesus knows we must be.

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Our God, the wonder and beauty of Your Creation, from the universe itself to some exquisitely simple life form, may lead the astonished mind to You, yet also away. Our perceptions are fallible and subjective even in the summit of scientific and poetic response, and may be guided by whim, personality, or circumstance. Let us cherish Your works and cease to abuse them at a physical, technological, or spiritual level. Let them serve to give us appropriate recreation and wholeness as individuals who are both body and spirit.

God, we do not want to remain separate from You. Please fortify our faith so that trials become impetus for our growth. You love and educate us tenderly and patiently, however wounded, disobedient and impatient we are. Even chosen souls may dilute Your truths or limit Your offered gifts of service. Please grant healing and endurance so we may share the richness of Your love with many others.

Yours are the thoughts and ways of almighty God who creates in slow evolution. Your Spirit’s action is often indiscernible in our lives and in the lives of others. You nevertheless use each moment of effort and peace, of faltering and repentance, together with each act of mercy and faith, to mould each willing soul to Your intended image of it. We place our whole existence, with our sinfulness and failures, our gifts and achievements, into Your care.

If we drift from Your ways, however deep our error, please restore us quickly through Your indwelling Spirit, with the teachings of Jesus, His merciful forgiveness, and the encouragement of others. Preserve us from rejecting You through unbalanced devotion or attachment. Grant us genuine prayer and conversion despite temptations that assail us.
God, please give us faith to accept mysteries beyond human experience and reason.

Give us hope that endures beyond repeated crises and losses, and love that continues to live in a broken heart. Let us experience Your love for us, and grant others to find Your loving-kindness in us. Silence our distractions and anxieties. Overcome in us the tyrannies of sin, temptation and addiction. Lead us into the way and truth of Your divine Son, who took upon Himself our nature and raised it to Your life that we may become Your children beside Him.

Please fill us with overwhelming desire for Your loving will. We trust and hope in the promise of Your Son—that those who hunger for Your life will be filled. By His promise, we know that the Spirit will transform us, preparing us for the communion of Saints and Angels in fulfilment of Your will. Eternal God, grant us to respond fully to Your will, in the name and Spirit of Your Son.

“The actions of every creature are before Him, there is no hiding from His eyes; His gaze stretches from eternity to eternity, and nothing can astonish Him. You must not say, ‘What is this? Why is that?’ All things have been created for their proper functions.” [Ecclesiasticus 39:19-26]

What basically I am saying to you is how can we understand beyond a shadow of our God.
No less than a tiny ant can understand your life and activities and thoughts, but infinitely less…
 
I feel like there’s more to this life something larger than what we see. I believe that there are some supernatural occurrences that happen.
Why would any of this conflict with Catholicism…? Catholics don’t believe that we have the fullness of truth, only parts of it -but what knowledge we do have, is said to be the purest Truth available.

There are alot of supernatural things that happen that the Church does not go into detail about, simply because God has not offered every Truth for us to know.

…unless there is something that you have discovered or thought of that conflicts with Catholicism -then you’re still Catholic. …Is there something you believe that contradicts Church teaching?
 
I’m not sure what to think of jesus was he divine or not is what I’m having trouble with.
 
Have you read any C.S. Lewis? He does some very good writing about who Jesus really was. Try “Mere Christianity.” Let me know what you think.

You sound confused. There is no reason to put yourself into confusion. Others have doubted but they have found the truth.
 
I hope that you will come to know Jesus of Nazareth the Christ…the Son of God. To encounter him. Seek him in prayer…seek him in the Church…seek…

That you will search and you will find that in him (and thus in his Church he founded) …that in him is “true life”.

He truly is the Son of God (he is divine!!)…he truly was crucified and he truly did rise from the dead and appear to many. He is the Logos. He truly gives us life and in him is the meaning of all things.

Pope Benedict XVI has declared a special Year of Faith starting in October. I invite you to follow the Popes writings and homilies during this time specially (though do not wait :). vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/index.htm

Please also get a copy of this book: ignatius.com/Products/YN-P/yes-or-no.aspx
 
You may also want to read
“The Everlasting Man”
by G.K. Chesterton.



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Yes, He is divine. Yes, it’s difficult to understand, but how much can our limited, tiny minds understand the eternal almighty God who created this vast universe?
Just because we don’t understand, doesn’t mean truth isn’t so.

In this life we are as if in a second womb.
Just think of how very little the little child in the womb understands the world outside the womb. Has the child the least understanding of all the great and strange and wonderful things and experiences that are in the world outside.
We await our birth into eternity, we have much less understand and are even more blind and unknowing about the next life, even with the truths that have been revealed to us.

If someone could tell the infant, that there would be food with all kinds of tastes, that they would walk, talk, see and experience a million things, the child might believe none or little of it. That would make it no less true.

The bible tells us that Jesus is God Incarnate, the gospel of St John begins with that, when Jesus was baptized the Father proclaimed His relationship with Jesus, and Jesus rejoiced when St Peter was inspired by the Holy Spirit of God to proclaim who Jesus really is.

He is who God says, and like the babe in the womb would have to have faith if told there was an extraordinary world outside with unexpected and unbelievable truths, we just to trust in God, and realize our little minds can reason within their limited capacity all they want, but the fact that they cannot grasp the truth, does not mean it isn’t so.

Anyway, may God help you to make the leap of faith into what is true in His Truth, not in your fears and doubts.

God bless you,

Trishie
 
I suggest Mere Christianity as well, and you can read the entire thing online if you can’t find a copy of it in book form. I had to buy a copy after I read it on my kindle, it’s one I wanted to have in my hands to really research.

Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis
 
Coming to know Christ is a relationship. Relationships ebb and flow. Stay open…
 
Today I think I’ve become truly agnostic
about the divinity of jesus.** I feel like there’s morevto this life something larger than what we see.** I believe that there are some supernatural occurrences that happen. Maybe god will use this period for growth snd then I would come back to the faith. Or maybe this is just for now and tomorrow I will believe again. Who knows.
Just what is the thing that is large yet unseen?
 
Today I think I’ve become truly agnostic
about the divinity of jesus. I feel like there’s morevto this life something larger than what we see. I believe that there are some supernatural occurrences that happen. Maybe god will use this period for growth snd then I would come back to the faith. Or maybe this is just for now and tomorrow I will believe again. Who knows.
Dear brother.

Don’t seek to “believe in Christianity”. Seek the Person, Jesus Christ.

Look at the Cross, literally.
It’s a historical fact that Jesus came at the time of “great expectation”, was cruzified and that nearly all of the 12 apostles died a torturous death because they claimed they had seen the living Christ.
Would you have died cruzified upside down, if in reality you had stolen His corpse, hadn’t eaten with him at Taghba, hadn’t felt Him breathe into you, and seen Him being taken up to heaven?

Go to confession. Not because doubt is a sin, but because often times we come into rebellion and confusion and blindness when we haven’t been to confession for a long time.

Jesus lives. Many of my friends have seen Him. I myself went from agnosticism to living Christianity as an adult, not because I found Christ, but because He took hold of me. The scales came off my eyes, and suddenly I saw that He was there, and He had always been there… but He chose the time to reveal Himself.

There are times of dryness and indifference, and times of fire.
Ask Him now: “Don’t let anything rip me out of Your Hand”.
 
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