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“What have you done for **me **lately”.
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I think that sums up the self-centered person’s train of thought when God isn’t serving a person’s every whim.

The truth is that He does more for us than we can fathom and more than we’ll know in this lifetime, but as is evident in this life: no one is ever thankful enough for what is done for them.
“There’s nothing He can do to prove Himself forever”
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This is where he’s wrong. He may be right that there will always be those too stubborn or who don’t want to believe in this this regular life, but one day this life will end and by that point there’s no turning back and certainly no doubting. In other words, there will be a point where “doubt” will no longer be an option.

So the first one would do it for you personally? Interesting.
 
The user’s other video - Prager University: Happiness is a Moral Obligation - pretty much gives you a summary of the person’s knowledge and understanding. :rolleyes:
 
Jordan said:
“I think the first one would pretty much do it for me.”

Would do what for you? Cause you to continue in disbelief or cause you to realize the silliness of wanting for God to prove himself to you?

Video Part 1 was an honest appraisal of why atheists exist. No matter what God did, there would still be people who would choose to disbelieve.
Dennis Prager is a man who believes completely in our one true God. I’m pretty sure he is Jewish but that matters not for this subject.

So if you were saying you think the video was “proof” that God doesn’t exist, you’ve got it completely backward. The video points out the definition of faith, a belief in that which we cannot see or sense. If one has no faith, he makes that choice. If one makes that choice because he doesn’t have God’s existence definitively proven to him, he is, as someone above said, self centered.

“There’s nothing He can do to prove Himself forever” (Dennis Prager)

Liraco said:
“This is where he’s wrong. He may be right that there will always be those too stubborn or who don’t want to believe in this this regular life, but one day this life will end and by that point there’s no turning back and certainly no doubting. In other words, there will be a point where “doubt” will no longer be an option.”

I don’t think he was wrong only because he wasn’t talking about the last moment on earth. Dennis knows it will be too late to change then. He means, I believe, that while we are on this earth there is nothing God could do that would permanently change the mind of a stubborn skeptic. The skeptic would come up with an, 'Oh yeah, well what about next year?", or “When are you going to do it again”, that sort of thing. Actually He could do it, but He won’t because of free will and His desire to have us love him in faith.

The Prager University is a sort of tongue in cheek thing. Dennis doesn’t think he is a university. He is however a well read and well versed theologian with a keen grasp on human life. Hundreds go to his classes and workshops as well as speaking engagements.He is a teacher extraordinaire.
 
As a “trade” I’d offer the following:

Why do we believe in God?

Quite interesting. 😉

@libby: I realize he wasn’t speaking of the end (I simply made my comment taking note of his using the word “forever”.) I agree though that if God chose to truly reveal Himself, there would be no place for doubt.

I think a reason He chooses not to though is because of our free will that He respects. If He revealed Himself undeniably but allowed us to continue living on this earth until the end times, people could still reject Him (it already happened once with Adam and Eve).
 
Also, others reading this should remember that Dennis Prager is not a Catholic apologist. He is a Jewish theologian. But his Part 2 Happiness-Moral Obligation is for everyone, with faith or without. I think he means it more as a moral decision within the actions of everyday life as opposed to a moral teaching of the Church.

Liraco, your signature line has my two favorite and quotable people.
(well I’d add C.S. Lewis) Great quotes!

Nice to meet you all, btw.
 
I liked the video and I also liked the way the Catholics replied to denis. Denis has himself provided different answers to his own question and very well negated all the possible answers. In the end he concluded that there is no way that God could make himself known 100 % sure. That is right too.

It is not for God to make Himself 100% sure visible etc. God would never reveal Himself 100% clear because that would take away the effort on the part of mankind to believe in Him. If God came with His angels in the Clouds, there will be no test and no trial and no need of using any God given faculty to seek him out. Faith will have no value, no charm.

God reveals Himself through His prophets and then leaves it to the mankind to believe in Him. Even then He does not force any one to believe in Him. God has given to mankind the sense and the Will to decide, to make decisions. That is enough.

There is no way and should not be any way that God make Himself visible to every one at all times. If He made Himself visible to some nation at some time then the others who come later would not have seen God with their own eyes, would still not believe in God. It is not a good precondition that God reveal Himself in Person. If He appeared in the form of a man or in the form of a Camel, how would the people believe that He was God? There is no way.

I support the idea that it is not fair and necessary that God reveal Himself in clear shape. That would be illogical and unfair and un-necessary. Belief in God must always have some secrecy. Otherwise it will no more be a belief.
 
Eucharisted said:
The user’s other video - Prager University: Happiness is a Moral Obligation - pretty much gives you a summary of the person’s knowledge and understanding. :rolleyes:
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What a false doctrine. Everyone knows that happiness is a warm cookie.
 
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