i was curious what churches claims they started at pentecost?

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When Was The Orthodox Church Founded?
Can you tell me when and was the Orthodox Church founded?
The Orthodox Church was founded on the Day of Holy Pentecost in Jerusalem in 33 AD, fifty days after the Holy Resurrection of Jesus Christ our true God. It has preserved the original teachings of Jesus Christ and His Apostles form that time until the present. The first major Bishops of the Church (known as Patriarchs) have remained Orthodox up to the present. They are the Patriarchs of Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, and Constantinople. Later onwards other Patriarchs also began to develop within the Orthodox Church: Russia, Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria, and Albanian.

Was the Roman Catholic Church a part of the Orthodox Church?
Yes, the Roman Catholic Church was a part of the Orthodox Church, believing and teaching the same doctrines and Sacred Tradition, until 1054.
serfes.org/orthodox/inceptionoforthodoxchurch.htm

The Original Church of Christ founded at Pentecost
orthodoxradio.ca/

The View of the Inauguration of the Church on the Day of Pentecost.
1. Asserted by the Promise of Christ in Matt. 16:18.
2. Asserted by the necessity of the Death of Christ.
3. Asserted by the Necessity of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

A refutation of the Pentecost view.
1. Matthew 16:18, 19.
A) The Rock
B) “Will Build”
a) The Future: Punctiliar or Durative?
b) Build: oikodomeso
2. Church: Ekklesia
Matthew 18:17,18
3. The Day of Pentecost: Acts 2:1-4
4. I Corinthians 12:13
5. The Blood of Christ

Summation

nonprotestantbaptists.com/Church.Founded.html

gospellessons.info/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/thechurchfoundedonpentecost.pdf

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From google searches I learned,

There is a general system of intepretation known as dispensationalism that sees the “church age” begining with pentecost.

I was surprised to see some Catholics and some Orthodox claims the church started at Pentecost too.

Mostly, churches that claims they started at pentecost are some independent baptist churches, some pentecostals and cultic groups like the United Pentecostal Church – this appears to be one of their selling points.

So, this is not an universal belief of protestants, in fact any group that holds to this makes it a point of saying they are not protestants.
 
Well, I know that some conservative Lutheran bodies (e.g Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod) don’t necessarily believe they were the church started at pentecost, due to a difference in belief for what the Church is, but they do believe they are the only ones who have correct doctrine (them and those in fellowship with them). I think the Orthodox generally believe they are. And finally, the Church of Christ - the Catholic Church - believes, and rightfully so, that it was started on Pentecost.
 
Ok this is the deal with Protestants. When Protestants (Pentecostals included) say “The church’s birthday was the day of Pentecost,” they are not saying that “So and So Denomination” was established and their articles of incorporation were filed with the Roman provincial governor’s office on that day in 33 AD or whatever. What they mean is that the Body of Christ, The Church, which includes all of the born again believers throughout all time and space, was founded on that day. There are many bodies that have been formed since then to facilitate the work of the Body of Christ. But these bodies are not the Church.
 
The Church was founded on Pentecost. It is wrong to argue whether it was the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodox Church, etc. that were founded on this date. At that time there was only one Church. It was later that the Church was fractured into the Catholic Church, Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Church, etc.
 
Matthew_Holford said:
The Church was founded on Pentecost. It is wrong to argue whether it was the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodox Church, etc. that were founded on this date. At that time there was only one Church. It was later that the Church was fractured into the Catholic Church, Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Church, etc.
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They fragmented from the Catholic Church - the Catholic Church is still one.

But I guess that’s for another thread. 🤷
 
Swiss_Guy said:
That’s your own opinion.
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Yes, it is and well-founded. There was only ever a Christian Church at one time: the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. There was no Latin Catholic Church, no Eastern Catholic churches, no Oriental Catholic churches, no Eastern Orthodox churches, no Oriental Orthodox churches; one Church!
 
Yes,…affirm Mathew here…the Church began at Pentecost one, Church but different jurisdictions all founded by the Apostles…the main difference between Catholic/Orthodox and Protestantism.

Culturally it is very hard for American Christians to envision such a Church prior to the Reformation.
 
Matthew_Holford said:
Yes, it is and well-founded. There was only ever a Christian Church at one time: the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. There was no Latin Catholic Church, no Eastern Catholic churches, no Oriental Catholic churches, no Eastern Orthodox churches, no Oriental Orthodox churches; one Church!
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Yes, I agree.

But eventually Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Churches broke away from the Catholic Church for various reasons. 😦

The Catholic Church today is the only Church that is still united.
 
Swiss_Guy said:
I feel like we (might?) be saying the same thing. 🤷
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I agree, in a way we are. I know the Church is fractured now. I was referring to what I understood from the OP’s question, which I suppose I may have answered better: which church was founded at Pentecost. Well, then it was just the Church. There was no need then to say are you Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, Methodist … oh well, you know what I mean.🙂
 
Matthew_Holford said:
I agree, in a way we are. I know the Church is fractured now. I was referring to what I understood from the OP’s question, which I suppose I may have answered better: which church was founded at Pentecost. Well, then it was just the Church. There was no need then to say are you Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, Methodist … oh well, you know what I mean.🙂
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Right. 🙂

Except in a sense the Church isn’t fractured, even though some of its members may not be united.
 
Swiss_Guy said:
Except in a sense the Church isn’t fractured …
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I’m not sure how you reach that conclusion. I don’t think we ought to be smug and say oh us Catholics are the one true church. It is man who has divided the church and I think we all have some responsibility to return it to the unity Christ intended.
 
Matthew_Holford said:
I’m not sure how you reach that conclusion. I don’t think we ought to be smug and say oh us Catholics are the one true church. It is man who has divided the church and I think we all have some responsibility to return it to the unity Christ intended.
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How did I reach this conclusion? Church documents, the catechism, various other places.

The Catholic Church is the one true church. But that doesn’t mean only Catholics are apart of that church. Separated Brethren (like me) have an imperfect communion with the church.
 
Swiss_Guy said:
How did I reach this conclusion? Church documents, the catechism, various other places.

The Catholic Church is the one true church. But that doesn’t mean only Catholics are apart of that church. Separated Brethren (like me) have an imperfect communion with the church.
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We cannot say the Church isn’t fractured. There’s the Catholic churches and the non-Catholic Eastern churches who all claim to be the one true church. Then there are the many ecclesial communities from the Reformation. I do not think we should just sit back and say that’s nothing to do with me. Christ left us with one church. The current situation is the fault of Man. We all have a responsibility to resolve this.
 
Matthew_Holford said:
We cannot say the Church isn’t fractured. There’s the Catholic churches and the non-Catholic Eastern churches who all claim to be the one true church. Then there are the many ecclesial communities from the Reformation. I do not think we should just sit back and say that’s nothing to do with me. Christ left us with one church. The current situation is the fault of Man. We all have a responsibility to resolve this.
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There is one Church - the Catholic Church. Members of the Church may be fractured (in different christian communities), but the Church itself as a society isn’t fractured.

So I agree with you when you say that Christ left us with one church, because he did. And the Church won’t be overcome (Matt 16:18), so the Catholic Church will always remain one.
 
Swiss_Guy said:
Yes, I agree.

But eventually Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Churches broke away from the Catholic Church for various reasons. 😦

The Catholic Church today is the only Church that is still united.
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or the catholic church broke away form them. 😉

When a person has two divorces under their belt the problem likely lays with that person.
 
The church was fractured in NT times, where you Baptised in the name of Paul? Peter? Jesus?

The original question was simply what churches claims to have started at pentecost?

I agree there is an universal church or mystical body of Christ which is the Church Universal or Triump – I forget which.
 
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