I would be blamed for nothing

[paarsurrey]

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If Jesus did not marry; then he is father of none

Originally Posted by guanophore:

paars, why do you come here to CAF spreading your anit-Christian drivel? What do you hope to accomplish here? Do you expect to lead us all to abandon our Holy Faith, and change into Amhadi?

Originally Posted by paarsurrey:

Hi

Did I ever say to you to become an Ahmadi here.No, never.

I do present my arguments with rational reasons; to extract sound reasons from the Catholics here, if they think that they have not been able to present their case in the same spirit, they are free to improve their arguments. It is as simple as that, in my opinion…

Nothing is lost yet; don’t be restless, please.

If one wants to become an Ahmadi and is fully convinced heart and soul; one won’t even listen to me or you. Can I or you stop one?

I think you agree with me.

Be confident on your faith/religion, please, and concentrate on improving substance in your arguments, which is the purpose of a discussion.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Adam and Eve.

Thanks

Hi

If you are not convinced heart and soul, please, don’t become an Ahmadi and remain a Mormon, JW, Protestant or Catholic etc, whatever you are. I will be blamed for nothing.

I love Jesus

Thanks

 

[mark_a]

I enjoy your posts here, especially the charity with which you present your opinions.

But you are too diverse in your core beliefs, as your signature has shown until today (love for Buddha, Krishna, Mary etc.).

In my opinion, you are doing Islam more harm than good with your lack of conviction.

Your views remind me of non-denominational Christians who will not commit to an established belief system, for fear of someone in that system that may sin.

Just thought you would like to know.

 

[paarsurrey]

I enjoy your posts here, especially the charity with which you present your opinions.

But you are too diverse in your core beliefs, as your signature has shown until today (love for Buddha, Krishna, Mary etc.).

In my opinion, you are doing Islam more harm than good with your lack of conviction.

Your views remind me of non-denominational Christians who will not commit to an established belief system, for fear of someone in that system that may sin.

Just thought you would like to know.

Hi

You know very well that I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim, being persecuted for our peaceful beliefs in many Muslim countries of the world.

Whatever I mention is in accordance with the belief of the Ahmadi Mulsims; though I don’t represent them.

You may check my beliefs from the official website of the Ahmadia international community’s website:
alislam.org/

Please do point out if you see any difference.

I love Jesus

Thanks

 

[Nepenthe]

I have to admit, I get really sickened by people in these parts maligning paarsurrey. He’s as sweet and kind as they come, speaking in a second (if that!) language, has his own set of religious beliefs but does not force them upon anyone, overtly or covertly, but really wants to know people better and their ways of thought.

Show a little human charity, people, and welcome the stranger.

 

[jakasaki]

I have to admit, I get really sickened by people in these parts maligning paarsurrey. He’s as sweet and kind as they come, speaking in a second (if that!) language, has his own set of religious beliefs but does not force them upon anyone, overtly or covertly, but really wants to know people better and their ways of thought.

Show a little human charity, people, and welcome the stranger.

Good Sunday morning,

With 4001 posts from Paassurrey, … he is hardly a stranger…

May God Help Us All, Each and Everyone!

 

[Nepenthe]

I know that. I was obscurely referencing a little from the bible, okay?

I have quite a few posts myself, and I am often made to feel very unwelcome here, simply for not conforming to the set of ideas that the majority of CAF espouses, yet I’m pretty nice, and not inarticulate or insulting (although I certainly admit to some gentle teasing for everyone, myself included), or even outspoken condemnation, particularly when a member has violated their own supposedly rock-solid practice of their ideals).

 

[mark_a]

Hi

You know very well that I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim, being persecuted for our peaceful beliefs in many Muslim countries of the world.

Whatever I mention is in accordance with the belief of the Ahmadi Mulsims; though I don’t represent them.

You may check my beliefs from the official website of the Ahmadia international community’s website:
alislam.org/

Please do point out if you see any difference.

I love Jesus

Thanks

Paarsurrey,

I didn’t mean to imply that you are manufacturing your own religion. I gave my opinion of your op.

signed,
a hard-headed, unwavering Catholic.

 

[Catholic90]

WHY does Pars feel to need to keep creating new threads, though? That is quite annoying…it is the SAME topic, just on repeated threads. The “old” thread (and not even “old” - it was started yesterday and is only 3 pages long forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=309390 ) just had 2 posts copied and pasted on here to start a “new” thread, which isn’t really new…it’s just the same old c**p being recycled.

Edited to add the old thread is not even 24 hours old!

 

[notself]

paarsurey starts new threads because many people only read new or realatively new threads. After a thread is more than 20-30 posts long, it either goes off topic or just repeats itself.

I

 

[Catholic90]

paarsurey starts new threads because many people only read new or realatively new threads. After a thread is more than 20-30 posts long, it either goes off topic or just repeats itself.

I

That is the whole point of Paars’ threads! They all repeat the same nonsense over and over again.

Repeating the same untruths will not make them any more true!

 

[Bill_Pick]

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4782441&postcount=36
If Jesus did not marry; then he is father of none

Hi

If you are not convinced heart and soul, please, don’t become an Ahmadi and remain a Mormon, JW, Protestant or Catholic etc, whatever you are. I will be blamed for nothing.

I love Jesus

Thanks

PASS WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING YOU LOVE jESUS And go to all website in interesting but has the tendency to try to disprove Jesus’ existence; we do not approve of that premise. , you do know this board has a lot of Christian and we all love Jesus and don,t need you trying to disprove Jesus, He did die on a cross for you,when the time comes you may have a hard time telling Him you love Him

 

[swariffin]

Hi

You know very well that I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim, being persecuted for our peaceful beliefs in many Muslim countries of the world.

Whatever I mention is in accordance with the belief of the Ahmadi Mulsims; though I don’t represent them.

You may check my beliefs from the official website of the Ahmadia international community’s website:
alislam.org/

Please do point out if you see any difference.

I love Jesus

Thanks

My dear brother, Paar. I think that your belief in Quran somehow is different than the mainstream Islam. But, the bottom line is, I respect whatever belief you have. I am just asking, is it possible that you name your religion say an Ahmadi instead of Islam?

 

[paarsurrey]

My dear brother, Paar. I think that your belief in Quran somehow is different than the mainstream Islam. But, the bottom line is, I respect whatever belief you have. I am just asking, is it possible that you name your religion say an Ahmadi instead of Islam?

Hi

Sorry, I cannot do that. I have started no new faith; the founder of the Ahmadia Community is Second Coming 1835-1908 and he named it Ahmadi Muslims to distinguish it from others. I am totally convinced by him. He brought no new book; we follow Quran which encompasses the true (in origin) teachings of every revealed religion. We follow Acts or Sunnah of Muhammad, which shows the teachings of Quran in actual and continued practice.

Brother I understand your sentiments but it is beyond me to change these things, as only Second Coming 1835-1908 was appointed by GodAllahYHWH, and I am just an ordinary follower of him.

I love you my friend/brother in humanity.

Thanks

 

[swariffin]

Hi

Sorry, I cannot do that. I have started no new faith; the founder of the Ahmadia Community is Second Coming 1835-1908 and he named it Ahmadi Muslims to distinguish it from others. I am totally convinced by him. He brought no new book; we follow Quran which encompasses the true (in origin) teachings of every revealed religion. We follow Acts or Sunnah of Muhammad, which shows the teachings of Quran in actual and continued practice.

Brother I understand your sentiments but it is beyond me to change these things, as only Second Coming 1835-1908 was appointed by GodAllahYHWH, and I am just an ordinary follower of him.

I love you my friend/brother in humanity.

Thanks

Fine with me brother. I would still regard you as my peaceful muslim brother. Whatever differences of your belief with respect to the mainstream Islam, is none of my power to interfere. My apology for calling you a non-Muslim. I am just wondering why your belief is different to what is written in Quran. That is the explanation I am waiting from you.

When Planten believes that Quran must be given a new interpretation (not changes/additions/deletions), I begin to think that perhaps your ProphetMessenger’d mission was just like that. To make (or perhaps emphasize) Islam to be a peaceful religion. Too bad, that his mission still get many opposition from the Islam hardliners.

 

[paarsurrey]

a new interpretation (not changes/additions/deletions), I begin to think that perhaps your ProphetMessenger’d mission was just like that.

Hi

In a sense one could say it is a new interpretation; as with the passage of time, the peaceful message of Quran was misused by some rulers and their supportive clergy to fullfill their own agenda, and the meaning in the guidance was lost or forgotten.

Quran as fresh as ever is still with us; so the things could be interpreted newly ,as it may seem to some yet in fact, corresponding and conforming to the original teachings of Quran and Sunnah of Muhammad.

Anybody could verify the truthfulness of this fact, by himself.

I love Jesus

Thans

 

[jastor]

paarsurrey I respect your opinion, and you must also respect that we are catholics and your religion and reasonings makes no sense to us and chances are it never will.** We believe what we believe because we believe it**. Therefore anything you say is foreign and may or may not make much sense to a heart-felt- catholic.
Your religion is odd and easy to find faults in. I am sure ours is the same to you! To each his own.
Just say-in…

 

[Reuben_J]

Hi

In a sense one could say it is a new interpretation; as with the passage of time, the peaceful message of Quran was misused by some rulers and their supportive clergy to fullfill their own agenda, and the meaning in the guidance was lost or forgotten.

Quran as fresh as ever is still with us; so the things could be interpreted newly ,as it may seem to some yet in fact, corresponding and conforming to the original teachings of Quran and Sunnah of Muhammad.

Anybody could verify the truthfulness of this fact, by himself.

I love Jesus

Thans

I notice your signature ends with ‘I love Jesus’ or either it would be ‘I love Jesus, Mary, Krishna, or Buddha’. You seem to have omitted Mohammad. Is this done on purpose or is it Ahamdi’s belief that Mohammad did not measure up to these personalities?

From your signature it seems Mohammad has taken second place from among the others whom you love. Am I correct in saying this?

What about Ghulam, why do you not include him as one whom you love?

Is there any hireachy of the prophets in Ahmadi belief system?

Thanks.

 

[Eucharisted]

Paar,

Why do you come onto CAF, present your opinions in new threads instead of posting in the thread in which you can actually express yourself without going off topic, and than, when believers correct you on misconceptions and fallacies, you just say - not in these exact words - “Well, I believe what I believe about Catholics and I will continue to believe what I believe, even though you’ve shown what I believe about Catholics is not true.”

There’s a word for your behavior and attitude, but it escapes my tongue now.

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey I respect your opinion, and you must also respect that we are catholics and your religion and reasonings makes no sense to us and chances are it never will.** We believe what we believe because we believe it**. Therefore anything you say is foreign and may or may not make much sense to a heart-felt- catholic.
Your religion is odd and easy to find faults in. I am sure ours is the same to you! To each his own.
Just say-in…

Hi

Nevermind.
Just remain in contact. We are friends and brothers in humanity. I like Catholics to have as my friends. May God Allah YHWH bless you! Remember me in your prayers, please.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Adam and Eve

Thanks

 

[Good_Fella]

If you are not convinced heart and soul, please, don’t become an Ahmadi and remain a Mormon, JW, Protestant or Catholic etc, whatever you are. I will be blamed for nothing.

I love Jesus

Thanks

This is the verdict of Sura al-Ahzaab in Quran 24:58:

“And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly bear on themselves a calumny and a glaring sin.”

PAX :harp: