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BelFarfalla
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There are nuts like this all over the country. Apparently there are a couple of Islamic terrorist training camps in upstate NY. I read about them a while back. The FBI knows about them but does not shut them down. Sometimes the FBI does this because leaving them alone for a while makes them easy to follow and find collaborators.
Of course there are other groups in this country that do the same thing…like some far right groups, some far left groups…
We just need to be vigilant in finding these groups and squashing them before they become a problem.
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Scarecrow
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I heard about the Islamberg in New York thing and even visited their website. Were there arrests made there? or is it just suspicion?There are nuts like this all over the country. Apparently there are a couple of Islamic terrorist training camps in upstate NY. I read about them a while back. The FBI knows about them but does not shut them down. Sometimes the FBI does this because leaving them alone for a while makes them easy to follow and find collaborators.
Of course there are other groups in this country that do the same thing…like some far right groups, some far left groups…
We just need to be vigilant in finding these groups and squashing them before they become a problem.
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Kadaveri
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Firstly, this has got nothing to do with WhyIslam… just because one of the idiots allegedly posted a few times on our message board hardly means we were involved. Not that there’s even any proof of this, anyone can write a fake name on a message board.
Secondly the quote at the start of that page is fake. If it were said in March 2007 then what is almost the exact same quote (it clearly can’t be a coincidence) doing on THIS page from 2006? Those guys have clearly just copied it from there and thought they’d stick it on their page to make it look more impressive.
Secondly the quote at the start of that page is fake. If it were said in March 2007 then what is almost the exact same quote (it clearly can’t be a coincidence) doing on THIS page from 2006? Those guys have clearly just copied it from there and thought they’d stick it on their page to make it look more impressive.
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Scarecrow
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Explain this,Firstly, this has got nothing to do with WhyIslam…
UTD sophomore faces federal gun charges following FBI arrest in WP (Whyislam connection)
11-27-06 *“Shah’s younger brother Irbaz, a freshman who lives with him in Phase 8, said Qazi is their cousin. He said Shah also knows the other two men because they volunteered together to feed the homeless through WhyIslam, a New Jersey-based Muslim organization.
“He didn’t do anything wrong to start off with,” Irbaz said. He said their parents, who live in Nigeria, have been notified.
Irbaz said the only connection he believed his brother would have with firearms would be with friends who hunt or go to shooting ranges"* See this article
Whyislam is ICNA is it not?
As this article said, these people were ICNA 's Whyislam workers. ICNA and Whyislam to date has not distanced themselves from their actions since they were part of ICNA and Whyislam.
Seems like while volunteering for ICNA’s Whyislam they were doing some things on the side.
Maaz Shah posted about Jihad on the Whyislam forum but they quickly deleted it after it was posted to the public on Realterror.
realterror.wordpress.com/tag/islamic-circle-of-north-america/
www.jihadunspun.com, a suicide bombing jihadi website, was put up as a link on the www.whyislam-tx.org website.
It has everything to do with Whyislam.
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Scarecrow
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The quote is not fake. Many of us from Whyislam forum and Whykuffar saw it and recorded it from the faketerror website. This is the quote Kadevari is talking about folks. On this page: realterror.wordpress.com/welcome/case-details/Secondly the quote at the start of that page is fake. If it were said in March 2007 then what is almost the exact same quote (it clearly can’t be a coincidence) doing on THIS page from 2006? Those guys have clearly just copied it from there and thought they’d stick it on their page to make it look more impressive.
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Abu Jamal - March 4, 2007** The Islamic law regarding those (Muslims) who aid kuffar (non-Muslims) in fighting Muslims is very clear, their blood is not sacred. - Faketerror
See where we recorded it word for word!:
realterror.wordpress.com/tag/faketerror/
That is why it is on the front page.
It comes from this paragraph recorded from Faketerror, a group of ICNA members who support the Houston Taliban group:
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25. Abu Jamal - March 4, 2007**
That ICNA still lets this disgusting munafiq (hypocrite) in their organization and post on their boards shows they fear the oil-barons in the US government more than Allah. We want these people representing us? If they wont dispose of him then someone else will have to. The Islamic law regarding those who aid kuffar (non-Muslims) in fighting Muslims is very clear, their blood is not sacred.”
The same person on both sites, Abu Jamal, wrote it. So pbviously it will have similarities.
abujamal
“The Islamic law (hum Shari) regarding those who aid kuffar in fighting Muslims is very clear, their blood is not sacred. But then again, the BMF which is the latest organisation to become the lackeys of the kuffar and work for their cause against Islam, this position should not be suprising.”
See? They are the same person saying similar things on two different sites.
The quote is not fake. It just shows that it is the same person. You just help prove that AbuJamal of Faketerror, a compilation of IICNA members promotes terror.
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Kadaveri
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Shiraz Qazi **never **worked for WhyIslam, nobody here I know had even heard of the guy until this thing blew up. He may have volunteered to help out at some of the charity stuff we do like feeding the homeless we’ve got no way of knowing that, but so have literally thousands of people. They’re just members of the public who volunteer to help out there and then, they’re not ‘employees’ neither do we keep any record of them.
And that quote is obviously fake, come on. Sure someone may have posted it on the faketerror blog but it’s not an original quote someone has decided to write upon hearing about the story. It’s not very likely that there’s some guy called Abu Jamal who goes round the internet posting the exact same message all over the internet on completely different isses months apart; especially since the real one is a member of a British forum and can be found nowhere else on the internet until he apparently decided to copy+paste the exact same statement he made months beforehand on something totally different into a blog about an American organisation. Does that not sound rather strange to you?
Whoever posted that is clearly just trying to ruffle some feathers, don’t play their game.
And that quote is obviously fake, come on. Sure someone may have posted it on the faketerror blog but it’s not an original quote someone has decided to write upon hearing about the story. It’s not very likely that there’s some guy called Abu Jamal who goes round the internet posting the exact same message all over the internet on completely different isses months apart; especially since the real one is a member of a British forum and can be found nowhere else on the internet until he apparently decided to copy+paste the exact same statement he made months beforehand on something totally different into a blog about an American organisation. Does that not sound rather strange to you?
Whoever posted that is clearly just trying to ruffle some feathers, don’t play their game.
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Scarecrow
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That qoute was posted on the Faketerror site it was captured and posted on realterror. You youself linked it to the other site and it is obviously the same person saying the same thing. The qoute is not fake.Shiraz Qazi **never **worked for WhyIslam, nobody here I know had even heard of the guy until this thing blew up. He may have volunteered to help out at some of the charity stuff we do like feeding the homeless we’ve got no way of knowing that, but so have literally thousands of people. They’re just members of the public who volunteer to help out there and then, they’re not ‘employees’ neither do we keep any record of them.
And that quote is obviously fake, come on. Sure someone may have posted it on the faketerror blog but it’s not an original quote someone has decided to write upon hearing about the story. It’s not very likely that there’s some guy called Abu Jamal who goes round the internet posting the exact same message all over the internet on completely different isses months apart; especially since the real one is a member of a British forum and can be found nowhere else on the internet until he apparently decided to copy+paste the exact same statement he made months beforehand on something totally different into a blog about an American organisation. Does that not sound rather strange to you?
Whoever posted that is clearly just trying to ruffle some feathers, don’t play their game.
Shiraz Qazi, just because you havent heard of him doesnt mean he wasnt working with ICNA or Whyislam. Even if he wasnt, the other 3 were according to reports. Williams neighbor wrote an article detailing it, the Houston Chronicle identified Mirza and Shah as working with Whyislam.
Can you categorically deny all of these men were Whyislam workers when the reports say otherwise?
Can you categorically deny they all associated with each other from working with Whyislam?
If you do then you are at odds with the reports.
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Scarecrow
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That qoute was posted on the Faketerror site it was captured and posted on realterror. You youself linked it to the other site and it is obviously the same person saying the same thing. The qoute is not fake.Shiraz Qazi **never **worked for WhyIslam, nobody here I know had even heard of the guy until this thing blew up. He may have volunteered to help out at some of the charity stuff we do like feeding the homeless we’ve got no way of knowing that, but so have literally thousands of people. They’re just members of the public who volunteer to help out there and then, they’re not ‘employees’ neither do we keep any record of them.
And that quote is obviously fake, come on. Sure someone may have posted it on the faketerror blog but it’s not an original quote someone has decided to write upon hearing about the story. It’s not very likely that there’s some guy called Abu Jamal who goes round the internet posting the exact same message all over the internet on completely different isses months apart; especially since the real one is a member of a British forum and can be found nowhere else on the internet until he apparently decided to copy+paste the exact same statement he made months beforehand on something totally different into a blog about an American organisation. Does that not sound rather strange to you?
Whoever posted that is clearly just trying to ruffle some feathers, don’t play their game.
Shiraz Qazi, just because you havent heard of him doesnt mean he wasnt working with ICNA or Whyislam. Does every ICNA and Whyislam worker know every other ICNA and Whyislam worker nation wide? Not. Even if he wasnt, the other 3 were according to reports. Williams neighbor wrote an article detailing it, the Houston Chronicle identified Mirza and Shah as working with Whyislam.
Can you categorically deny all of these men were Whyislam workers when the reports say otherwise?
Can you categorically deny they all associated with each other from working with Whyislam?
If you do then you are at odds with the reports…
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