Ideas for explaining the 'visible church' to non-Catholics?

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stewstew03 said:
I actually know a family that offers up their pool (in their backyard) so that the non-denominational church they attend can use if for baptisms.
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And I’ve seen people baptised in oceans, the tigris, the black sea, an assortment of creeks and streams. Some smaller sbc affiliated churches can’t afford to have the actual “tub” in the building. 🙂
 
jlhargus said:
JL: Do you consider your ministers to be only symbolically ordained?
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Calgar said:
Wouldn’t that the antithesis of ordained?
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JL: How then do you view ordination, as a sacrament? What happens in ordination that makes it not symbolic? Does the ordained receive something others don’t? Why then isn’t a symbolic baptism the antithesis of baptism?
 
jlhargus said:
JL: How then do you view ordination, as a sacrament? What happens in ordination that makes it not symbolic? Does the ordained receive something others don’t? Why then isn’t a symbolic baptism the antithesis of baptism?
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I can’t give you an answer. I’ll have to research.
 
Calgar said:
What else is there if not the Bible alone? Tradition? I don’t know of any Christians that don’t have tradition. It’s just not your tradition.
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JL: Calgar I don’t understand how you can claim the Bible alone which is not found in the Bible. You reject what the Bible CLEARLY teaches about baptism regenerating & taking away sins, Acts2:38, Acts22:16, Titus3:5. Holding baptism is symbolic, which is not found in the Bible, a tradition of men. You hold to another tradition of men, OSAS, although the scriptures you use in defense contradicts other scriptures such as Hb6:4-6.
 
Calgar said:
And I’ve seen people baptised in oceans, the tigris, the black sea, an assortment of creeks and streams. Some smaller sbc affiliated churches can’t afford to have the actual “tub” in the building. 🙂
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Seems like a lot of effort to do something symbolic… I mean, couldn’t they just pretend like there is a water basin (or river, creek, whatever) and pretend to dunk them in water? Seems like that would accomplish the same purpose (public profession of faith).
 
stewstew03 said:
Seems like a lot of effort to do something symbolic… I mean, couldn’t they just pretend like there is a water basin (or river, creek, whatever) and pretend to dunk them in water? Seems like that would accomplish the same purpose (public profession of faith).
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Am I detecting sarcasm here? 🙂
 
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