If a husband refuses to end sexual relations with his wife by ejaculating inside of her is this a sin?

  • Thread starter Thread starter PasionCatechist
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
P

PasionCatechist

Guest
In reference to my question. I’ve heard of a form of contraception practice of a man withdrawing from his female partner before he ejaculates within her. Therefore releasing his seed elsewhere.

I was pondering the concept of a husband and a wife having sexual relations in which the husband refuses to end the shared sexual experience in a way that could make a child, and if that practice was indeed a sinful.

Hence, I was wondering what is the Catholic Church teachings concerning this practice of male ejaculate withdrawal during sexual relations within the context of marriage? Are there also any scriptural references that refer to this question at all?
 
It is my understanding that sexual reltions must involve the husband ejaculating inside the wife. This constitutes being “open to life.” or the conception of a child. Even using NFP is open to life, in that conception would be accepted if it occurred. While withdrawal can inhibit conception, it is far from perfect. However, the teaching of the church seems pretty clear on this point.

I’m pretty new to the Catholic Church, so I hope a more experienced and educated person weighs in on this. But I’m pretty sure of this point.

Dori
 
It’s necessary to establish consent, and to have a clear idea of what’s going to happen.
 
The intent is very clear, to avoid conception. One can use natural methods to avoid conception, such as abstinence. But the sexual act must be open to the posibility of conception.

It is not a violation of the 6th commandment as such, but it is a violation of the natural function of human sexuality. It does not allow the sexual act to fulfill both of its functions: communion between the couple and procreation.

JR 🙂
PasionCatechist said:
In reference to my question. I’ve heard of a form of contraception practice of a man withdrawing from his female partner before he ejaculates within her. Therefore releasing his seed elsewhere.

I was pondering the concept of a husband and a wife having sexual relations in which the husband refuses to end the shared sexual experience in a way that could make a child, and if that practice was indeed a sinful.

Hence, I was wondering what is the Catholic Church teachings concerning this practice of male ejaculate withdrawal during sexual relations within the context of marriage? Are there also any scriptural references that refer to this question at all?
Click to expand...
 
PasionCatechist said:
In reference to my question. I’ve heard of a form of contraception practice of a man withdrawing from his female partner before he ejaculates within her. Therefore releasing his seed elsewhere.

I was pondering the concept of a husband and a wife having sexual relations in which the husband refuses to end the shared sexual experience in a way that could make a child, and if that practice was indeed a sinful.

Hence, I was wondering what is the Catholic Church teachings concerning this practice of male ejaculate withdrawal during sexual relations within the context of marriage? Are there also any scriptural references that refer to this question at all?
Click to expand...
Beginning in Genesis 38:7 the sin of Onan is told. He pulled out of the woman ansd spilled hs semen. God struck him dead. This is a grave matter.
 
Ignatius said:
Beginning in Genesis 38:7 the sin of Onan is told. He pulled out of the woman ansd spilled hs semen. God struck him dead. This is a grave matter.
Click to expand...
You are entirely correct. It is called the sin of Onanism.
 
Because it hasn’t been mentioned, I’m throwing this out there.

Know what they often call folks who use withdrawal as a birth control method? Parents.

W/d is not a reliable form of bc, for anyone.
 
Ignatius said:
Beginning in Genesis 38:7 the sin of Onan is told. He pulled out of the woman ansd spilled hs semen. God struck him dead. This is a grave matter.
Click to expand...
While I do not question the churches current teaching on this, I do wonder at times why THIS particular OT law\lesson is always put forth when someone mentions withdrawal, yet nearly all of the other old “laws” have been abolished
o longer need to be followed. (Not eating certain foods, sacrifice etc).

I struggle with this from time to time. Maybe it’s because I still see a very real possibility of conception if using the withdrawal method as it is obviously FAR from a 100% thing. 🙂
 
rotlex said:
While I do not question the churches current teaching on this, I do wonder at times why THIS particular OT law\lesson is always put forth when someone mentions withdrawal, yet nearly all of the other old “laws” have been abolished
o longer need to be followed. (Not eating certain foods, sacrifice etc).

I struggle with this from time to time. Maybe it’s because I still see a very real possibility of conception if using the withdrawal method as it is obviously FAR from a 100% thing. 🙂
Click to expand...
You probably want to do some studying into the meaning of the marital act and it’s relationship to the Eucharist. John Paul 2 spent the majority of his pontificate teaching us what he called Theology of the Body. In marriage we use our bodies for a very specific sacramental purpose as well as a physical creative purpose. We call this being unitive and procreative. Each sexual act must retain those two characteristics. Onanistic sex removes both elements from the marital and and in the end it is no marital act at all.

Look into one of Christopher Wests studies on Theology of the Body. He has several varying in price as well as some free stuff on the internet .
 
PasionCatechist said:
In reference to my question. I’ve heard of a form of contraception practice of a man withdrawing from his female partner before he ejaculates within her. Therefore releasing his seed elsewhere.

I was pondering the concept of a husband and a wife having sexual relations in which the husband refuses to end the shared sexual experience in a way that could make a child, and if that practice was indeed a sinful.

Hence, I was wondering what is the Catholic Church teachings concerning this practice of male ejaculate withdrawal during sexual relations within the context of marriage? Are there also any scriptural references that refer to this question at all?
Click to expand...
Church laws are clear on sexual relations between husband and wife. Aside from abstinence as one person here already suggested there is only one alternative in family planning from Catholic prospective that I’m aware of. See; americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac0685.asp
 
Ignatius said:
Beginning in Genesis 38:7 the sin of Onan is told. He pulled out of the woman ansd spilled hs semen. God struck him dead. This is a grave matter.
Click to expand...
That’s not exactly the context. The intent of the heart was evil before God, the act of spilling the seed was the means to dishonor his brother and thus God. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Someone else made the comment that contraception was equivalent to murder (sixth commandment), but preventing a life from forming is much different than taking one that actually exists.

Just 2 cents worth on an old post…now I feel like I’m talking to myself.
 
Seatuck said:
You probably want to do some studying into the meaning of the marital act and it’s relationship to the Eucharist. John Paul 2 spent the majority of his pontificate teaching us what he called Theology of the Body. In marriage we use our bodies for a very specific sacramental purpose as well as a physical creative purpose. We call this being unitive and procreative. Each sexual act must retain those two characteristics. Onanistic sex removes both elements from the marital and and in the end it is no marital act at all.
Click to expand...
I’m sorry, but that is laughable…my stomach is hurting from this. Marital relations coming from a man who hasn’t a clue about marriage. Lighten up folks, God made us one flesh for many reasons including “pure pleasure”…lighten up and enjoy each other a bit.
 
NonCatholic said:
I’m sorry, but that is laughable…my stomach is hurting from this. Marital relations coming from a man who hasn’t a clue about marriage. Lighten up folks, God made us one flesh for many reasons including “pure pleasure”…lighten up and enjoy each other a bit.
Click to expand...
:confused:

Where does Catholic theology discourage “sex for pleasure” (assuming with one’s spouse)?

I’d think it less pleasurable not to complete the act “within”. 🤷
 
NonCatholic said:
I’m sorry, but that is laughable…my stomach is hurting from this. Marital relations coming from a man who hasn’t a clue about marriage.
Click to expand...
I’m sorry, but that is laughable. Judgment about John Paul’s Theology of the Body coming from a man who hasn’t ever read it.
 
NonCatholic said:
I’m sorry, but that is laughable…my stomach is hurting from this. Marital relations coming from a man who hasn’t a clue about marriage. Lighten up folks, God made us one flesh for many reasons including “pure pleasure”…lighten up and enjoy each other a bit.
Click to expand...
Ahh! Ignorance has its own pleasure.
 
NonCatholic said:
I’m sorry, but that is laughable…my stomach is hurting from this. Marital relations coming from a man who hasn’t a clue about marriage. Lighten up folks, God made us one flesh for many reasons including “pure pleasure”…lighten up and enjoy each other a bit.
Click to expand...
Your comment is not laughable but it is sad and a bit ignorant.I’m sure it’s not your fault you are a product of your environment after all. If you had a mental illness would only seek out help from a doctor with a mental illness? Or would you expect that doctors are capable of studying such illnesses and treating them? If you get something horrible like cancer better make sure your doctor has it too.

You really don’t know what a persons sexual history is and you shouldn’ t make a judgement. Go read Love and Responsibility and you will see the man understood very well what it marital love was all about. The man didn’t live in a bubble. Thirdly , don’t underestimate the ability of my God to reveal something to my Pople to teach me about.
Enough said.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top