If a married person has HIV--should condoms be permitted?

[jmcrae]

I am not talking around anything. I have said very clearly that I think it’s worst to have illicit sex without a condom than it is to do so with a condom because of the health risks. I am not condoning the sex.

Kendy

But from the point of view of Eternity, using a condom while having extramarital sex is worse than not, because you are now committing two sins instead of only one.

 

[Kendy]

For me, the issue isn’t if condoms are effective…the issue is…can condoms give us a conscience, and no…condoms, as one poster said…really are just effective at giving people a false sense of security…so they can do what they please… Whether it’s having premarital sex, or in this situation…we have to ask ourselves…what would Christ want us to do? You just simply cannot put a bandaid on immorality.

I remember years when I could not care less about what Jesus would do. While I regret feeling that way, having pre-marital, I don’t regret using the condoms which protected me. The truth is I just didn’t care about what God thought back then. And a lot of people are in that position.

Kendy

 

[jmcrae]

I remember years when I could not care less about what Jesus would do. While I regret feeling that way, having pre-marital, I don’t regret using the condoms which protected me. The truth is I just didn’t care about what God thought back then. And a lot of people are in that position.

Kendy

If people don’t care about God, then why on earth would they care about the Catholic Church’s stance on contraception - and why would they care about our attitude toward contraception, while simultaneously ignoring our stand on extramarital sex?

How would the Catholic Church reversing 2,000 years of teaching on this issue help people who couldn’t care less what the Church teaches, anyway?

I don’t see the point - I say, let’s keep teaching the Truth. Some will listen, and some won’t, but changing the message won’t help anybody.

 

[Kendy]

If people don’t care about God, then why on earth would they care about the Catholic Church’s stance on contraception - and why would they care about our attitude toward contraception, while simultaneously ignoring our stand on extramarital sex?

How would the Catholic Church reversing 2,000 years of teaching on this issue help people who couldn’t care less what the Church teaches, anyway?

I don’t see the point - I say, let’s keep teaching the Truth. Some will listen, and some won’t, but changing the message won’t help anybody.

Yes, That’s all truth. But I have met some Hispanic catholics who ignore the teaching about pre-marital sex, but are convinced that using contraception is a great evil. It doesn’t make sense to me, but it happens.

 

[setter]

I am not talking around anything. I have said very clearly that I think it’s worst to have illicit sex without a condom than it is to do so with a condom because of the health risks. I am not condoning the sex.

Kendy

:banghead: … … … I agree to disagree, even though I know that have the principles of Catholic morality and conscience on my side; you have not made the case in order to say the same for your persistent argument/stance.