If a priest is defrocked or laicised, is he free to marry?

[otjm]

I believe that Benedictine Monks are self sufficient and build their own monasteries and convents does anyone know if there are anyother religious orders that are self sufficient

Trappists; Carmelites, Camaldolese; and the Brigittine monks in Oregon.

And most may rely on donations to supplement whatever they can produce themselves.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

$50,000 is definitely on the high end. The median is about $30,000.

Does it depend on the diocese for a priest? Most of my uncles are priests and they make about $48,000/year. I guess I could call or text one of them and ask! LOL

Oh, you said the median. Sorry. Yes, I think the median is about $35,000, so we’re pretty much in agreement on that. Some dioceses are quite poor.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Trappists; Carmelites, Camaldolese; and the Brigittine monks in Oregon.

And most may rely on donations to supplement whatever they can produce themselves.

I know at the late Thomas Merton’s monastery in Kentucky they make the most wonderful fudge (some has Kentucky bourbon in it) and seasonal fruitcakes. (I’d better order mine, though it might be too late already!)

 

[Phemie]

Does it depend on the diocese for a priest? Most of my uncles are priests and they make about $48,000/year. I guess I could call or text one of them and ask! LOL

Oh, you said the median. Sorry. Yes, I think the median is about $35,000, so we’re pretty much in agreement on that. Some dioceses are quite poor.

Boy, they were well paid!! That’s $4000/mo. Nowhere near what priests in our diocese make. I think once taxes are deducted ours take home about $2000/mo. Their room and board is calculated into their income and they are taxed on it. They get a car allowance which is also taxable. And yes, each diocese sets what its priests are paid.

In Canada, religious priests are given a monthly stipend and are not taxed on it because of their vow of poverty. Most are expected to turn any paycheque over to their Order/Congregation which, in turn, gives them a small allowance to take care of their immediate needs.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Boy, they were well paid!! That’s $4000/mo. Nowhere near what priests in our diocese make. I think once taxes are deducted ours take home about $2000/mo. Their room and board is calculated into their income and they are taxed on it. They get a car allowance which is also taxable. And yes, each diocese sets what its priests are paid.

In Canada, religious priests are given a monthly stipend and are not taxed on it because of their vow of poverty. Most are expected to turn any paycheque over to their Order/Congregation which, in turn, gives them a small allowance to take care of their immediate needs.

I guess they are in a wealthy diocese. I never really thought much about it.

I did not know about Canadian priests. Thank you for the information.

 

[twf]

I guess they are in a wealthy diocese. I never really thought much about it.

I did not know about Canadian priests. Thank you for the information.

For secular priests the salary would definitely depend on the diocese. No question. In my home diocese in British Columbia I think secular priests are paid $2500/month- so $30k per year MINUS taxes.

 

[phil19034]

Does it depend on the diocese for a priest? Most of my uncles are priests and they make about $48,000/year. I guess I could call or text one of them and ask! LOL

Oh, you said the median. Sorry. Yes, I think the median is about $35,000, so we’re pretty much in agreement on that. Some dioceses are quite poor.

My Monsignor (who is the pastor) makes $28,000 per year. But if you calculate in room & board, insurance, etc, then you could say it’s closer to $48K.

Is the $48K figure that your uncles make taking everything into consideration? That might be why.

Or do they work for the diocese or teach in a school?

 

[Lily_Bernans]

My Monsignor (who is the pastor) makes $28,000 per year. But if you calculate in room & board, insurance, etc, then you could say it’s closer to $48K.

Is the $48K figure that your uncles make taking everything into consideration? That might be why.

Or do they work for the diocese or teach in a school?

I’m really not sure what it includes now. They live in a wealthy diocese, but I cannot say for sure what their actual salary, minus room and board, is. I had thought it was about $48,000 because that’s what they said, but on reflection, they may have been speaking of salary PLUS room and board. After what you’ve told me, it seems more likely they were adding room and board in.

They are diocesan priests who teach religion classes in high school, but they are not regular teachers. They are employed by the diocese.

Thank you for the information.

 

[Phemie]

I’m really not sure what it includes now. They live in a wealthy diocese, but I cannot say for sure what their actual salary, minus room and board, is. I had thought it was about $48,000 because that’s what they said, but on reflection, they may have been speaking of salary PLUS room and board. After what you’ve told me, it seems more likely they were adding room and board in.

They are diocesan priests who teach religion classes in high school, but they are not regular teachers. They are employed by the diocese.

Thank you for the information.

I don’t know how it works in the US, or even in most other dioceses in Canada, but in our diocese the parish pays the priest, not the diocese. The diocese sets the amount they will be paid but the parishes pay them.

My experience with religious priests is that their Order/Congregation has a contract with the diocese detailing how much they will be paid, what holidays they will be given, the number of times a year they get a paid trip back to their Provincial House, etc. When we had religious priests (from our parish’s erection in 1958 until 3 years ago) they were paid a stipend of $1000/mo., were provided with a car by the diocese, had 2 flights/year back to their Provincial base.

 

[twf]

I don’t know how it works in the US, or even in most other dioceses in Canada, but in our diocese the parish pays the priest, not the diocese. The diocese sets the amount they will be paid but the parishes pay them.

My experience with religious priests is that their Order/Congregation has a contract with the diocese detailing how much they will be paid, what holidays they will be given, the number of times a year they get a paid trip back to their Provincial House, etc. When we had religious priests (from our parish’s erection in 1958 until 3 years ago) they were paid a stipend of $1000/mo., were provided with a car by the diocese, had 2 flights/year back to their Provincial base.

In my home diocese in BC, the diocese pays priests, not the parish. Not sure how it works here in Vancouver though.

 

[phil19034]

I’m really not sure what it includes now. They live in a wealthy diocese, but I cannot say for sure what their actual salary, minus room and board, is. I had thought it was about $48,000 because that’s what they said, but on reflection, they may have been speaking of salary PLUS room and board. After what you’ve told me, it seems more likely they were adding room and board in.

They are diocesan priests who teach religion classes in high school, but they are not regular teachers. They are employed by the diocese.

Thank you for the information.

The fact that they teach classes in the Catholic high school changes things. The fact that they teach means that they very well might make more money than a parish priest.

Often (not always), priests who teach receive their “priest money” plus a teaching salary. The teaching salary may or may not be the same as a lay teacher.

Either way, most likely, your uncles may not be a good example of priestly pay

 

[Xantippe]

In college, I went on a few dates with a girl who’s dad was a laicized priest and her mom used to be a nun.

I was in the Peace Corps with a guy who had a similar situation with his parents and was of that same generation.

They raised him Catholic.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

The fact that they teach classes in the Catholic high school changes things. The fact that they teach means that they very well might make more money than a parish priest.

Often (not always), priests who teach receive their “priest money” plus a teaching salary. The teaching salary may or may not be the same as a lay teacher.

Either way, most likely, your uncles may not be a good example of priestly pay

Thank you. I never really discussed their salary with them much. Mostly I heard them discussing it among themselves.