If abortions were outlawed in America, what would the outcome be?

[robwar]

The Catholic Church teaches that the fetus is a human being from the moment of conception, endowed with an immortal soul and to be considered a person in full. This is de fide. The Church teaches that artificial contraception interferes with God’s will, and is also a sin, though not the sin of murder that abortion is.

some contraception could be considered murder because it interfers with the baby implanting in the womb such as IUD and the pill. They don’t stop conception but the implanting, but I guess that is splitting hairs here. If Abortions were finally illegal, there would also be fewer scared women and hurting men that are the secondary victims.

 

[interestedman]

The birth rate would increase dramatically, which would be beneficial. If it weren’t for immigration the US would have been having a severe population drop over the last few decades, that added to an aging population causes all kinds of financial and social ills.

As far as “abortion going underground”, that would decrease with time and the everpresent dangers of back alley abortions making them less appealing. The whole situation would be much better if we could straighten out the adoption system in this country, which right now is absurdly costly and a paperwork nightmare. MOre young women would be willing to go to term if adoption could be guaranteed.

Just like in the Philippines?

bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-15/philippines-economic-plan-seven-inches-of-latex.html

 

[Regina_Love]

Most women have no problems finding a family who would love to adopt their baby. In fact if they mention they are looking they are overwhelmed with the number of people aproaching them who are interested. ** A couple of million families each year cannot find a baby/child to adopt!!! A couple MILLION!**

A Birth mom can literally make a list of what she wants & find it fairly easily. ie i want a dad who’s a lawyer, stay at home mom, in a Christian family, who likes animals. and boom! She’ll find it! Our Birthmom had a list of 10 qualities she wanted in a family. We matched all 10.

There is a huge shortage of adoptable children (legally free), because they are killed instead. How sad. Our birthfamilies were there at our sons, and daughters Baptism, 1st birthday, important events, graduation, weddings…LIFE IS GOOD!

CHOOSE LIFE!

 

[Rence]

Most women have no problems finding a family who would love to adopt their baby. In fact if they mention they are looking they are overwhelmed with the number of people aproaching them who are interested. ** A couple of million families each year cannot find a baby/child to adopt!!! A couple MILLION!**

And yet, there are so many orphans who won’t be adopted.

I considered adoption too. But the adoption process is so expensive, it’s not a surprise that many can’t afford it.

I personally do know a girl who gave up a child for adoption. She was paid $30,000, and her medical expenses were paid for by the adoptive parents. Most people can’t afford that.

I personally know a co-worker who considered being a surrogate for a childless couple. She was very willing because she would be paid $30,000 and all of her expenses would be paid. She opted not to because she started a new job.

 

[Agatha813]

This honestly a tough one, but I can guarantee there would be more unwanted babies in the world. In a perfect world, people want to become parents and raise their child full of love, but that’s not reality. There are plenty of people that don’t want their children, so they get rid of them. I know that women would still desperately seek out underground abortions if abortion were to get banned, the only difference is that it would make it harder for women to do so, which I guess is the good thing.

However, we also have to take into consideration the children that are going to be born and put into orphanages, because they are unwanted. What should we do as good Christians? In a perfect world, we would all adopt, yes? But lets face it, most of us wouldn’t adopt children, because the majority of us would like to just stick with our own biological children.

I personally want to adopt a child to encourage my pro-life view, but I know not everyone will do the same. People don’t really look at the big picture when they say they’re pro-life. All they look into is that they’re making sure a baby doesn’t die, but they don’t really concern themselves with the life of that baby after it is born, and if it’s born into a family that will love it, or not.

Over all, it would be a big change for our society and if we really want to push that to be the norm in this country, then we should consider more than the birth of the child. We should make sure that those children are taken care of and become good human beings, and we can do this by adopting, or being there more for our fellow man when they’re in a bind and can’t afford to take care of a child.

 

[Carlan]

This honestly a tough one, but I can guarantee there would be more unwanted babies in the world. In a perfect world, people want to become parents and raise their child full of love, but that’s not reality. There are plenty of people that don’t want their children, so they get rid of them. I know that women would still desperately seek out underground abortions if abortion were to get banned, the only difference is that it would make it harder for women to do so, which I guess is the good thing.

However, we also have to take into consideration the children that are going to be born and put into orphanages, because they are unwanted. What should we do as good Christians? In a perfect world, we would all adopt, yes? But lets face it, most of us wouldn’t adopt children, because the majority of us would like to just stick with our own biological children.

I personally want to adopt a child to encourage my pro-life view, but I know not everyone will do the same.

People don’t really look at the big picture when they say they’re pro-life. All they look into is that they’re making sure a baby doesn’t die, but they don’t really concern themselves with the life of that baby after it is born,

And what saddens me is that there is not much said in these abortion forums about these two quotes.
Many seem to pass over the concerns of the poor struggling mother living in the Projects,and resent the Government and the help it gives the poor. Personal charity simply cannot fill the enormous need.Peace, Carlan

 

[Bill_Martin]

And what saddens me is that there is not much said in these abortion forums about these two quotes.
Many seem to pass over the concerns of the poor struggling mother living in the Projects,and resent the Government and the help it gives the poor. Personal charity simply cannot fill the enormous need.Peace, Carlan

Personal responsibility can. If you’re a poor mother living in the projects, then don’t have children you can’t afford to take care of.

 

[Chrish1975]

What impact would the banning of all abortions have on society in America?

It would take a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion in the United States. Even if there was I’m afraid people with the means would simply go to Canada to have the procedure done. If SCOTUS ruled that Roe vs Wade is void then it would go back to the states and the liberal states would keep it legal and the conservative states would ban abortion. That would mean women would just go to liberal states to have an abortion.
Also with medications that can cause abortion there would be a black market and women could just order the medication through the Internet from Canada.
IMHO.

 

[Carlan]

Personal responsibility can. If you’re a poor mother living in the projects, then don’t have children you can’t afford to take care of.

Please also consider the other party’s resposibility and his focus on what is below his belt and behind his zipper. Excuse my crudeness,
Peace, Carlan

 

[Bill_Martin]

Please also consider the other party’s resposibility and his focus on what is below his belt and behind his zipper. Excuse my crudeness,
Peace, Carlan

Applies to him too.

 

[yukonbrad]

It would take a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion in the United States. Even if there was I’m afraid people with the means would simply go to Canada to have the procedure done. If SCOTUS ruled that Roe vs Wade is void then it would go back to the states and the liberal states would keep it legal and the conservative states would ban abortion. That would mean women would just go to liberal states to have an abortion.
Also with medications that can cause abortion there would be a black market and women could just order the medication through the Internet from Canada.
IMHO.

Not being Canadian citizens they would not have access to our health care system and most would be unable to afford the upfront cost of such a procedure if in fact they could access the service to begin with.

 

[rfournier103]

Personally… I think that if someone wants to ruin their lives with illegal drugs, too much booze, or some other reckless behavior that puts their life and/or soul on the line… HAVE AT IT!!!

HOWEVER… When that behavior infinges upon SOMEONE ELSE’S pursuit of life, liberty, etc… That’s when my dander gets up.

There are many whose lives are ruined by bad decisions, bad luck, etc… but for the most part, they have a fighting chance. These children don’t even have that.

The ADULTS need to take responsiblity. Can’t afford a kid? DON’T GET PREGNANT.

 

[Bill_Martin]

Personally… I think that if someone wants to ruin their lives with illegal drugs, too much booze, or some other reckless behavior that puts their life and/or soul on the line… HAVE AT IT!!!

HOWEVER… When that behavior infinges upon SOMEONE ELSE’S pursuit of life, liberty, etc… That’s when my dander gets up.

There are many whose lives are ruined by bad decisions, bad luck, etc… but for the most part, they have a fighting chance. These children don’t even have that.

The ADULTS need to take responsiblity. Can’t afford a kid? DON’T GET PREGNANT.

This post sums up my thoughts on pretty much everything.

 

[Carlan]

Personally… I think that if someone wants to ruin their lives with illegal drugs, too much booze, or some other reckless behavior that puts their life and/or soul on the line… HAVE AT IT!!!

HOWEVER… When that behavior infinges upon SOMEONE ELSE’S pursuit of life, liberty, etc… That’s when my dander gets up.

There are many whose lives are ruined by bad decisions, bad luck, etc… but for the most part, they have a fighting chance.

These children don’t even have that.

Yes, the dear little precious ones and the innocents of war and the poverty they are born into.
And all the millions of parents in our country not taking responsibility for teaching their children both boys and girls respect for each others bodys and chastity.
Peace, Carlan

 

[pnewton]

1993 Poland outlawed nearly all abortion. Legal abortion declined from 60000 a year in 1990 to 174 in 2003.

I do not know if these figures are true or not, but it hardly the same situation. Poland is a very Christian country.

I think abortions would decline, maybe a little, maybe a lot, depending on exactly what the law was. I think drafting such a law would be a little tricky, as to how to keep the dignity of the unborn with mercy toward the mother. Obviously you could put the hammer down on the criminals that commited the abortion for profit.

I think a better question is what is the way to decrease abortions the most, legally, through revival of conscience, or both, and how much priority should be placed on these two methods.

 

[JRKH]

And what saddens me is that there is not much said in these abortion forums about these two quotes.

Many seem to pass over the concerns of the poor struggling mother living in the Projects,and resent the Government and the help it gives the poor. Personal charity simply cannot fill the enormous need.Peace, Carlan

this gets back to something I said earlier…Yes you can see many problems if you look at outlawing abortion in isolation…without recognizing the changes in the national psyche that would make outlawing abortion possible…Such changes would likely have considerable effect on the issues you refer to.

Peace
James

 

[AngryAtheist8]

What impact would the banning of all abortions have on society in America?

It would depend on what was legally considered abortion.
And if there was a serious move to get most forms of contraception banned too (as many Catholics would like to do).
How strictly it was enforced would also be an important issue.

We can make a few fairly reliable predictions though.
For instance, Planned Parenthood and all similar organizations would effectively die out here in the United States.

 

[Regular_Atheist]

There’d be more children up for adoption, I suppose. And there would be a few more people in prison.

 

[AngryAtheist8]

New study from National Bureau of Economic Research says states would ban abortion if roe v wade is reversed. They say women seeking abortion are sensitive to travel costs

nber.org/papers/w18338.pdf

It is a unsubstantiated myth that many women will die trying to get an abortion if abortion was outlawed

1993 Poland outlawed nearly all abortion. Legal abortion declined from 60000 a year in 1990 to 174 in 2003. If backstreet abortion had risen reported deaths associated with pregnancy and miscarriages would have increased but the opposite has occured - both numbers have declined since 1990

18 - 29 are the generation that has grown up with legal abortion and the most pro life

I keep forgetting that Poland basically became a client state of the Vatican after the fall of the Soviet Union.

 

[AngryAtheist8]

The moral integrity of the nation would be restored, the culture of life would quickly regenerate this very ill nation; hope would be rekindled and the public dialogue on all the moral issues could be restarterd. Of any measure that could be possibly tried, reinstating the protection of life would have the most positive and far reaching reprecussions, because the value of human life itself would be reaffirmed; there really is nothing better to try at this point in our history with absolutely nothing to lose. The possibilities are all positive and there is no reason not to.

That’s one of the most naive things I have ever heard.