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Krisdun
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Also, if such a priest would hear confession would it be valid?
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adamhovey1988
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The problem isn’t if it is valid, the problem is is that it would be illicit.
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redbaron162
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My understanding is that it is valid but illicit.
Confession can still be done by a laicized priest in an emergency situation.
Confession can still be done by a laicized priest in an emergency situation.
Mass is valid, but illicit.
Confession/absolution is invalid, except in danger of death.
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Aulef
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Valid, but illicit.
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Socrates92
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Do you know where I can confirm this?
The Code of Canon Law.porthos11:
Do you know where I can confirm this?
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poche
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The mass would be valid. The validity of the confession would depend. Do the people who went to confession to him know that he is excommunicated. Is there an imminent danger of death? Is the person going to confession dying? In those instances then the confession would be valid.
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poche
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From the Code of Canon Law;
Can. 976 Even though a priest lacks the faculty to hear confessions, he absolves validly and licitly any penitents whatsoever in danger of death from any censures and sins, even if an approved priest is present.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P3G.HTM
Can. 976 Even though a priest lacks the faculty to hear confessions, he absolves validly and licitly any penitents whatsoever in danger of death from any censures and sins, even if an approved priest is present.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P3G.HTM
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TomH1
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The only validity within the Mass is the confection of the Eucharist by the priest. If an excommunicated priest celebrated a Mass he would validly confect the Eucharist. For validity nothing else is required than he be a priest. Excommunication does not ‘undo’ any sacrament. Sacraments cannot be ‘undone’. Once ordained he remains a priest forever. He may be excommunicated or laicised but he remains a priest.
A priest should, of course, only celebrate Mass with the authority of his ordinary. But to celebrate Mass without that authority only makes it illicit and not invalid.
The absolution of sins is a different matter. To do that validly a priest requires the power of order and jurisdiction. He receives the former at his ordination; therefore, all priests have the power of order. The latter, which is frequently called faculties, requires that his proper ordinary gives him the jurisdiction to grant absolution. Once given he retains it and can exercise it everywhere unless restrictions are placed on him. By virtue of excommunication a priest would lose his faculties. Of course, excommunication is intended to be a medicinal penalty and to return the excommunicate back to full communion with the Church. One would hope an excommunicated priest would do what was necessary to restore his communion. He would probably then have his faculties restored. However, while lacking faculties absolution from such a priest would be invalid.
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