if europe became muslim......

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if europe became muslim during the islamic conquest in the middle ages
  1. do you think we have human rights today?
  2. do you think slavery would be abolished?
  3. do you think there is separation between religion and state?
  4. do you think we have democracy today?
 
This is the typical “what if” question which professional historians always avoid. The muslims did not conquer Europe during the middle ages, so the question is moot.
 
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memnoch_lover:
if europe became muslim during the islamic conquest in the middle ages
  1. do you think we have human rights today?
  2. do you think slavery would be abolished?
  3. do you think there is separation between religion and state?
  4. do you think we have democracy today?
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A better question might be, "If Europe becomes Muslim in the next 100 years,
  1. Do you think they’ll have human rights then?
  2. Do you think slavery will remain illegal?
  3. Do you think they’ll have separation of mosque and state?
  4. Do you think they’ll have democracy tomorrow?"
 
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Wolseley:
A better question might be, "If Europe becomes Muslim in the next 100 years,
  1. Do you think they’ll have human rights then?
  2. Do you think slavery will remain illegal?
  3. Do you think they’ll have separation of mosque and state?
  4. Do you think they’ll have democracy tomorrow?"
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Europe will be Muslim in 100 years. Unless the Europeans do several things to reverse the demographic trends it is inevitable. The area we need to work in Public Diplomacy is shaping the war between Radical Islam and Moderate Islam which currently rages in the Muslim communities now, today.

If we shape the field well we will have little complaint, if we fail and radicals take over France or Italy or Spain, well, Afghanistan will look like kindergartners at play…

To reverse the trends the Europeans need to:
Begin having LOTS of babies (By 2050 HALF of all children in French schools WILL BE MUSLIM at current trend rates)
Begin forced deportation of radicals
Make laws forcing enculturation on to immigrants (for example passing strict language laws, giving monitary bounuses for marriages to European natives which produce children AND give a bounus at 5 and 10 years to discourage fraud)
Pass laws stopping all but the most dire cases of political refugees from entrance into the country (this last one will be very painful because Europeans have had so few children they are greying now and have no youth to do the nug work that the immigrants don’t feel too proud to do)

This topic is my thesis material…
 
If Europe became Muslim, it would be an improvement over the godless society they have now.

A decent society doesn’t massacre the innocent like the European Union favors. Europeons simply do not have the courage to stand up for what is right.
 
Like a european I wouldn´t like to be generalised in these “european” notions, respect the thread question, of course no.
 
Chris Jacobsen:
If Europe became Muslim, it would be an improvement over the godless society they have now
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Do you really think so??? I for one would not like to see Europe under tyrannical Muslim rule which is no better than any other totalitarianism!😦
 
Chris Jacobsen:
If Europe became Muslim, it would be an improvement over the godless society they have now.

A decent society doesn’t massacre the innocent like the European Union favors. Europeons simply do not have the courage to stand up for what is right.
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I must assume that you, as a member of this board, are most likely a Catholic? If so rather than wish our largest trading partner become a converted continent to Islam shouldn’t we instead oppose those secular moves the governments are making?? They are democracies, they must listen tot he will of the people. I don’t believe in tossing in the towel. Christ calls us to not be luke warm but HOT or cold.

This is an ideological war, this is first clearly visible move on the world stage by invisible forces seeking to eliminate Christianity since the Roman persecutions. The Protestants and their end times views should really be lapping this situation up because a Muslim EU is/will be inherrently anti-Christ and militantly anti-Isreal. But I digress…
 
Here is another interesting item of note on Christianity in the Mid East. Scroll down to her lectures on this very subject.

dhimmi.org/
 
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