If God is not The Trinity, when what did He mean...

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When God said
“Let Us make man in Our own image.” in Genesis,
Who are the “Us” He ws referring to?
 
2ndGen said:
When God said
“Let Us make man in Our own image.” in Genesis,
Who are the “Us” He ws referring to?
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Cherubim

Ezekiel 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

Ezekiel 10:8 And there appeared in the cherubims** the form of a man’s hand** under their wings.
 
FaithofAbraham said:
Cherubim

Ezekiel 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

Ezekiel 10:8 And there appeared in the cherubims** the form of a man’s hand** under their wings.
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So He wasn’t referring to Jesus Who was with Him in beginning as John 1 stated?
 
2ndGen said:
So He wasn’t referring to Jesus Who was with Him in beginning as John 1 stated?
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Words and commands, not another deity.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
 
Oh, and does this make the Angels “Co-Creators” of man as God said let “us” create?
 
FaithofAbraham said:
Words and commands, not another deity.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
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Word, being “capitolized” signifies deity…

Jesus is “The Word” if you quote all of John 1:14

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
 
2ndGen said:
Word, being “capitolized” signifies deity…

Jesus is “The Word” if you quote all of John 1:14

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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I don’t think the Greek was capitalized in translation for that reason.

Exodus 4:15-16 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do. And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.

And God’s Word was made flesh in Moses. All the prophets are God’s Word to the people.
 
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Oh, and does this make the Angels “Co-Creators” of man as God said let “us” create?
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They were helping Him create by being the models for how man looked and acted, being another type of servant for God like the angels.
 
FaithofAbraham said:
I don’t think the Greek was capitalized in translation for that reason.

Exodus 4:15-16 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do. And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.

And God’s Word was made flesh in Moses. All the prophets are God’s Word to the people.
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So when Jesus and God both called themselves “the beginning and the end” in the Book of Revelations, which one of them was lieing if they are “not” the same?
 
FaithofAbraham said:
I don’t think the Greek was capitalized in translation for that reason.

Exodus 4:15-16 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do. And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.

And God’s Word was made flesh in Moses. All the prophets are God’s Word to the people.
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And since God has written His Word on our hearts, then doesn’t that make us all God’s Word and thus, prophets according to your understanding?
 
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Is this a Scriptural belief?
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Sure, it’s right there, angels that have a man’s face. Does God have a man’s face that we could be made in His likeness for that attribute of ours? We were made in the angels’ likeness too.
 
2ndGen said:
And since God has written His Word on our hearts, then doesn’t that make us all God’s Word and thus, prophets according to your understanding?
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That hasn’t happened yet, it happens when Satan is defeated and there is no more sin that can erase God’s Word. There will only be goodness and we’ll always do the right thing when Satan is gone.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the (OLD) law, till all be fulfilled.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and** they shall be my people**.

Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and** they shall be his people**, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 
FaithofAbraham said:
Sure, it’s right there, angels that have a man’s face. Does God have a man’s face that we could be made in His likeness for that attribute of ours? We were made in the angels’ likeness too.
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Does the Bible state that Angels co-created man?

And does it state that Angels “don’t” have God’s face?

And if God said let us make man in our own image and He was talking about Angels, then wouldn’t that mean that angels look like God?
 
2ndGen said:
When God said
“Let Us make man in Our own image.” in Genesis,
Who are the “Us” He ws referring to?
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We believe God the Father was conversing with His Son Jesus Christ as the world was being created. We know that from modern LDS scripture:

Moses 2:

26 And I, God, said unto mine Only Begotten, which was with me from the beginning: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and it was so. . . .

zerinus
 
2ndGen said:
Does the Bible state that Angels co-created man?

And does it state that Angels “don’t” have God’s face?

And if God said let us make man in our own image and He was talking about Angels, then wouldn’t that mean that angels look like God?
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God doesn’t have a face of flesh, He is a spirit. But we are in God’s likeness in that we can love, hate, etc. But not physically, that part goes to the angels.
 
zerinus said:
We believe God the Father was conversing with His Son Jesus Christ as the world was being created. We know that from modern LDS scripture:

Moses 2:

26 And I, God, said unto mine Only Begotten, which was with me from the beginning: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and it was so. . . .

zerinus
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Yeah but I think a lot of you also say there are endless Gods before our God that were once men too, now they are ascended to godhood, so that doesn’t help much.
 
FaithofAbraham said:
Yeah but I think a lot of you also say there are endless Gods before our God that were once men too, now they are ascended to godhood, so that doesn’t help much.
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We only accept as doctrine what is taught in LDS scripture; and what I have quote is LDS scripture.

zerinus
 
🙂 hi excuse me for jumping in; when a catholic says we are created in God’s image it is a reference to our nature. since God is pure spirit with no matter to make a shape we do not look like Him. our spirit is also our soul. man is the only created thing to have a soul that is a spirit. plants and animals have souls. it is these souls which thier life force comes from. when an animal ceases it’s soul goes back to God. Angels are also pure spirit with no matter. can any one measure a thought ?what shape is a thought? we can design a simple house in our minds yet we can not measure it.
 
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