If God knows you’re going to hell, can you change that?

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Well ya know I just was wondering if God knows your going to hell, can you change that? Also I just like these questions, this topic interests me so that’s why I ask so much about these things :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
 
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It’s not so much that God knows we’re going to choose hell before it happens, more that it already has and He knows the result. All things are beyond time for God, so He sees all events simultaneously. The moment a human being is created, God sees all events of their life, and their final choice.
 
SlavesOfJesusandMary said:
Well ya know I just was wondering if God knows your going to hell, can you change that? Also I just like these questions, this topic interests me so that’s why I ask so much about these things :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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No, for the Holy Trinity would not have known, and also wills that man have free will.
 
Let’s say a homeowner stretches out a very long hose across his yard. He’s at the faucet and turns on the hose. Water travels along until it comes out the end.

What the heck does this have to do with your question??? lol

God is the homeowner. He can see the whole length of the hose from beginning to end. The hose is time as we understand it. Days, years, centuries. God sees the whole of it. The water is like the present time, always moving forward until the end. God is outside of time, He is the initiator of the whole thing. He is the owner of the yard, of the hose, and the water.

He knows who will end up in hell, but the thing is, we don’t. So do your best. Be a blessing to the people in your life. That’s why you’re here. There are people who don’t know that there’s a God who loves them and that God created to bless others. Let them know so they can impact the world for good. Our time here is very short and a lot depend on our response.
 
“The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some think of slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance.” ‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬.

If God had his way, not a single person would go to hell. But we have free will, including the freedom to walk away from him, to turn our backs on him, to turn down his limitless perfect love and live without him forever. The weak link in the chain is us, not him. And until the moment we die, we have every opportunity to turn to him and go heavenward.
 
If God knows you’re going to hell, it’s because you already have.

From His perspective.

Which is outside of time and sees all of time at once.

You’re still within time, so you’re capable of freely making different decisions. Whichever decisions you make are the decisions God will observe from outside of time.
 
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Well ya know I just was wondering if God knows your going to hell, can you change that? Also I just like these questions, this topic interests me so that’s why I ask so much about these things :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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A person who goes to Hell goes so because it is fitting punishment to the choices and actions they made and make.
 
That is not something to worry about. We don’t knew whatever God knows.
The thing to be concerned about is not to become a lost soul yourself. A person can take care of this, if he will. A fundamental axion for Christians is to do good and avoid evil.
 
If you’re worried enough to be asking this question, you’re prolly headed on a path towards God, rather than away from Him.

But please understand that God knowing ahead of time is not the same as Him choosing who will be saved and who will be damned.
 
God’s foreknowledge doesn’t have to be your destiny. Foreknowledge is only knowledge. God’s foreknowledge changes as WE change.

You have the freedom to change His foreknowledge by changing your own choices. You can decide to choose heaven, instead, and God will know that you have chosen that, because He sees everything as it happens all at once.

If you change your choices and choose heaven, then God shall know that you WERE going to hell, but now you aren’t, because you chose a different course. In that sense, free will puts us in charge of our ultimate destiny.

So, the answer to the OP’s question is, yes, you CAN change it.
 
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I like your analogy to explain God and time. I’ll keep that in mind when I have to explain it.
 
The heresy of double predestination is condemned by the Church. This bad theology says God predestines some people to Heaven and others to Hell. This stems from an overemphasis on God’s sovereignty to the neglect of our free will. It says a person’s free will never comes into the equation, and if you’re predestined to Hell there is no stopping God’s sovereign will.

As quoted above, God’s will is that ALL men be saved. Does that mean universal salvation? No. What it all means is this: God gives each soul enough grace for them to be saved. No person will be able to stand before Christ on their last day and say, “You didn’t give me enough of the Holy Spirit to walk the road of holiness I was called to walk.” IOW, no one will be able to say God chose to withhold graces necessary for their salvation. It will only be their refusal that condemns them.

This should comfort us. It tells us that God is there with us at each decision point in our day. He has not abandoned us. He is eager to help us and lead us to glory. He never gives up on us.

So never believe that your destiny is inescapable. No, your destiny is being prepared by your daily choices that God wants to be a part of. And if you fall, he wants you to get back up instead of moping and staying down.

There’s work to do! Get at it!
 
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I was replying to the OP. His post seems to imply that our free will is inconsequential in the process of our salvation.
 
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You, with your free will chooses where you will go by the way you respond to the grace of God and live your life. God, of course, knows in advance what your choice will be.
 
God is outside of time. All things happen simultaneously for Him.
 
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