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Of course I read it. I just don’t interpret it as you do.Did you even bother to read what St John Paul II wrote, or are you so bent on calling people Pharisees that you can’t be bothered?
Of course I read it. I just don’t interpret it as you do.Did you even bother to read what St John Paul II wrote, or are you so bent on calling people Pharisees that you can’t be bothered?
Even though some in the assembly may not receive ‘sacramental’ Communion, all are united in some way by the Holy Spirit. The traditional idea of ‘spiritual’ communion is an important one to remember and reaffirm. The invitation often given at Mass to those who may not receive sacramental communion – for example children before their First Communion and adults who are not Catholics – to receive a ‘blessing’ at the moment of Communion emphasises that a deep spiritual communion is possible even when we do not share together the Sacrament of the Body and Blood of Christ.
I am curious…would you be willing to say, in general, where that is the gesture that you have encountered? I have not encountered it personally.I would always suggest to go up to communion to get a blessing. Just put your finger over your mouth and the preist will give you a blessing. And go to confession as soon as you can.
normally we just cross our arms and whoever is supposed to give us the Eucharist gives us a blessing instead. Guess its a different hand gesture/signal depending where you are?I would always suggest to go up to communion to get a blessing. Just put your finger over your mouth and the preist will give you a blessing. And go to confession as soon as you can.
trueEither way it doesn’t matter there is no rule
Your homilist explained the matter very very well.One of Jesus’s reasons for condemning the Pharisees, as it was explained to me during the homily tonight, was that they strictly adhered to all of their laws without considering the reason or motive behind that law, and whether or not their strict adherence was furthering the aim and intent of the law. And they were so steadfast in that adherence and in their unwillingness to consider anything except how they believed their laws would operate that when they were faced with the opportunity to see the Son of God perform a miracle, they were more concerned with catching him out at breaking the laws.
I have always considered it a little more than that, though I get your point. Following the letter of the law as strictly as one can does not make one a Pharisee. I think the what made them the hypocrites that Jesus chastised was that they followed the law for the sake of the law, without the love that God asks of those who lead His people. Thus, someone being healed on the Sabbath was wrong to them, as was plucking grain. I have always seen the inversion of priorities as the core of hypocrisy, as when Jesus said, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.”And let’s not forget, the very reason why Christ criticized the Pharisees was because they made up their own laws.
He usually does. We’re pretty lucky to have him.Your homilist explained the matter very very well.
Posters do not exist here to post 16 characters. Posting 16 characters was made to help posters.0104:![]()
trueEither way it doesn’t matter there is no rule
(lets make a petition to end the 16 character rule. who’s with me?)
Fixed, ex post facto, one of the advantages here. (smiley added)Joe1 said:it was a joke. my apologies
it was a joke. my apologiesPosters do not exist here to post 16 characters. Posting 16 characters was made to help posters.
Personally, as a European, I see it as the fruit of the same tree concerning which the Americans had to be corrected by the Holy See concerning the rubric on standing after Communion.This is a practice that does good, and harms no one and nothing. Why does it cause such controversy?
I do not disagree. I think this subject is much ado about nothing. There are thousand of parishes that give blessing for those who do not receive Holy Communion. There is nothing bad about it but can only be good for those who come up, one way or the other.Edmundus1581:![]()
Precisely…For you information, this particular question (the OP) arises several times a year in CAF, and always results in the same disagreements. Also, as further information, the practice itself is very widespread in the Catholic world, and probably occurs in the majority of parishes and cathedrals without the slightest demurring. Obviously, if a particular priest/bishop discourages it in his own parish/diocese then his direction should be respected.
My advise on your situation is to follow the directions of your own parish (ie. go up for a blessing), and also feel comfortable that your parish is not doing anything “irregular”. Others here will disagree.
The example that Pope JPll is using here are the shortcomings at Corinth. Do you really think that Pope JPll meant to compare blessings received in the Communion line to the shortcomings at Corinth? When I think of Corinth, I am not reminded of my own parish.“The Apostle Paul had to address fiery words to the community of Corinth because of grave shortcomings in their celebration of the Eucharist resulting in divisions (schismata) and the emergence of factions (haireseis) (cf. 1 Cor 11:17-34)”
This is not only something that the Pope wrote, it is something he did in his own Masses. As did Pope Saint John Paul II, for that matter.“I would like to add another practical suggestion. In many countries it has become customary for persons who are not able to receive communion (for example, the members of other confessions) to approach the altar with their hands folded over their chests, making it clear that they are not receiving the sacrament but are asking for a blessing, which is given to them as a sign of the love of Christ and of the Church. This form could certainly be chosen also by persons who are living in a second marriage and therefore are not admitted to the Lord’s table. The fact that this would make possible an intense spiritual communion with the Lord, with his whole Body, with the Church, could be a spiritual experience that would strengthen and help them.” – Pope Benedict/Josef Ratzinger
Out of curiosity, does anybody here by chance know a video link where we can watch this?This is not only something that the Pope wrote, it is something he did in his own Masses. As did Pope Saint John Paul II, for that matter.