If I feel I am being psychologically abused, what do I do?

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I am 21 (female) and still living in my parents’ house. I’m in university and pay my own tuition. My parents don’t make much, which is only relevant because since I was rather young and asked my mom why she won’t leave my father, she always says she can’t afford to be on her own.

I struggle very hard not to hate my father and sometimes I wonder why. He acts irrationally and expects us to pretend it’s okay. I have refused to do so ever since my mom told me a year and a half ago that he has been violent toward her on several occasions. A few she mentioned I knew about, but another time made my stomach turn inside out. She said that it was when we first moved into our house. She was talking to him about the paint when all of a sudden, he lunged at her and wrapped his hands around her neck and threw her up against the wall. He was yelling at her not to talk to him and then he horked all the **** from the back of his throat and spat it in her face. I was five years old then and present when it happened. My mom yelled for me to get in the car but he trapped her in the house. That part I remember. I remember seeing her standing in the garage ferociously pressing the automatic button to make it close on her. I remember other times as well where he got violent like that and we tried to leave. One time he was trying to rip down the car window while we were backing out of the driveway. All of us were screaming and crying and my mom was using the button to try to do up the window.

When I was 15, their fighting was horrifying. I was always scared to step out of line. I didn’t know exactly why I felt the way I did back then, but now I know. I was always so confused and depressed even. I didn’t know how to express myself. I overdosed one night when my mom went to the Stations of the Cross. He isn’t Catholic and was down in the basement sulking like he has been doing my whole life. (My mom told me that when I was born, I cried a lot, so he stopped sleeping in the bedroom with her so he wouldn’t have to deal with me. He’s been sleeping in the basement ever since). I took a handful of my pills (I have Lupus and take a lot of medications to make me feel better). I know I didn’t want to die. I saw it on TV where a girl OD’d and it made her life better, because her family finally saw how she was feeling. I wanted attention, but I didn’t get it. I made myself sick for 24 hours but never needed to see a hospital. I never told anyone that I took the pills. It hardly matters anymore, because I learned how serious and stupid my actions were all by myself. I always feel like I do everything by myself.

Another time I remember laying awake all night. I got in the shower at 5:30 when I finally realized I wasn’t going to fall asleep. I was only half-way through my shower when my dad was pounding on the door for me to get out. He had just gotten home from work and for some reason saw it as a big problem that he would have to wait for a few minutes. When I got out he threatened to kick my ***. He surprisingly apologized later and told me not to tell my mom. I never did. I cried that day at school though when a Catholic man and his wife came to give a speech about family life. It was particularly when he talked about his wonderful relationship with his daughters that I realized I was severely missing something in my life.

Since my mom told me about that specific time when he choked her, I haven’t been able to look at my father without feeling sick to my stomach. He started to notice my preference to avoid him and calling me out for it. I never had anything to say. It just made me scream on the inside. A few weeks ago; however, my brother accidentally broke the back door. My brother already affirmed that he was going to pay for it, but my dad was more concerned about being responsible for figuring out how to fix it. So he did nothing. My mom and I had to find a way to get the door to stay shut so that rapists and murderers couldn’t walk in and hurt us during the night, because he couldn’t care less. When he came up and saw what we were doing, he started to lose it. He kept saying that he was being blamed for everything when that wasn’t true. He thought he should leave the door wide open until my brother got home from work at midnight to deal with. That’s when I finally spoke up and said that the reason that we can’t do that is because someone could come in and kill us before that happens. I got really upset and started to say things along the lines of: other men who were good fathers would care about something happening to his family. He said he didn’t care and because nothing had happened before that nothing would happen then. I started saying the things that I had been wanting to for a year and a half. I said that the way he acts has messed me up in so many ways, that he only thinks of himself, he cares little for his family. He has always ignored me whenever he and mom fight. All he had to say in response was that I never said thank you for my birthday present and that on a couple rare occasions he drove me to school last year. Last week I heard him telling my mom that he hates me. He never apologized for anything, but today he’s back to pretending that he wasn’t acting insane by offering to drive me to work.

I decided to move out this fall into student housing. I don’t like the way that I feel inside. I can’t bring myself to play games anymore by playing nice when there’s nothing in my heart but pain. If I didn’t think there was more out there for me, that God has a plan for me that involves something better, I would want to die. I feel guilty and worry that God isn’t happy with me for not turning the other cheek anymore. But I can’t live like this. This isn’t a life. Will God forgive me for distancing myself form this situation? Will He think that I am giving up? I need advice. I have never told anyone about most of what you’ve just read. I am very lost at this point in my life. Please help me.
 
Have you ever flown on an airplane? When they give the safety instructions, they always make it a point to tell passengers that if oxygen is needed it will be necessary for each person to put on his or her own oxygen mask before attempting to help anyone else.

No, God has not put you into a position where you have to help someone else before you can help yourself. We are the Body of Christ for a reason. *Get outside help. *Go to your pastor and/or the person with the pastoral care of your university Newman Center. Also (not or–get the help first, then decide what helps or doesn’t help later) go to the counselling center at your university. You do not have to live on-campus to avail yourself of campus health and counselling services. I would recommend that you bring a copy of what you have told us, because it will be so likely that you will find it hard to break the ice and get this off your chest to someone in person. Between those two or three possibilities, you will be able to find help in getting whatever other resources might be available to you in your area.

Once you have found someone to help guide you through your personal problems, you’ll be in a better situation to discern what to do next. Hang in there, and whatever you do, remember that you are meant to have helpers in this life, even when it comes to doing the things that only you can do. Ask the Lord to send you those helpers. Depend on the Lord, do not make other people into God, but look to make prudent use of the help He may make available to you.
 
You made a serious mistake. You confronted a violent, mentally disturbed person. My advice is to get out now and not wait until fall. Go to a guidance consular and explain the situation and he/she may be able to get you in to student housing now while students are moving out or about to. Also, a lot of colleges have on campus jobs for students. Look into every avenue and get gone now. I will pray for you
 
Praying for you. Please do not feel guilty for planning to move out. When Jesus said to turn the other cheek, He did not mean put up with abuse. Get professional help so you and your mother will find a safe place to live…
 
I have a great deal of compassion for your situation.

Make plans to get out as soon as you can. Find a good therapist. It will take a lifetime to work on these types of issues. The Eucharist is a source of tremendous grace. Get connected to a healthy circle of friends at college and in your church community.
 
I have a great deal of compassion for your situation.

Make plans to get out as soon as you can. Find a good therapist. It will take a lifetime to work on these types of issues. The Eucharist is a source of tremendous grace. Get connected to a healthy circle of friends at college and in your church community.
Well said. My prayers go with the OP that soon she can leave and find the help and support she needs as well to deal with all of these issues.

Mary.
 
Please get out now. You don’t know when his violence will turn on you, but it will. I was in a situation that was psychologically abusive, it was my mother. Everyone saw it and no one said a thing to her. It wasn’t violent, but the mind games and manipulations, the snide remarks and hateful actions were more than I could take. My grandmother offered me a bed and freedom in exchange for doing the housework ( oh grammas ) when I was 17. A year later when I finished highschool I moved as far away as I could and never looked back. It was the best thing I did for myself. I wish you all the best.
 
Thank you so much everyone for your advice and prayers. It helps just to know that I am justified in feeling what I am feeling. I sometimes don’t handle my feelings very well and don’t know if it’s okay that I just feel so messed up. I recently got a job, but I can’t afford to move out yet. Please pray for me that I will make enough money this summer to be able to support myself from here on out. Please pray that I can get out of this situation. I hope God forgives me for the things that I do and for the things that I say as a result of what I feel. I want to do His will but I can’t do it here. I will only continue to sin under this roof. My feelings are my worse enemy. Please pray for me when I have not the strength to do so for myself.
 
Thank you so much everyone for your advice and prayers. It helps just to know that I am justified in feeling what I am feeling. I sometimes don’t handle my feelings very well and don’t know if it’s okay that I just feel so messed up. I recently got a job, but I can’t afford to move out yet. Please pray for me that I will make enough money this summer to be able to support myself from here on out. Please pray that I can get out of this situation. I hope God forgives me for the things that I do and for the things that I say as a result of what I feel. I want to do His will but I can’t do it here. I will only continue to sin under this roof. My feelings are my worse enemy. Please pray for me when I have not the strength to do so for myself.
I’ve prayed for you.

Please, please talk to a counselor at school. They can get you in touch with the resources you’ll need to get out ASAP. If you’re close to a particular professor, speak to them. A lot of professors have encountered this sort of thing before, and know exactly how to help–and if they don’t, they know who will.
 
Hi Meghan, I wanted to reach out to you and others in this situation since it’s recently become part of my life. I want to support you and encourage you as another young woman - who has found support from other young women here who have dealt with (and are dealing with) similar situations. Yes, that stuff is abusive and you are better off being away from it.
I don’t think it is charitable to stay with an abusive person, and I hate that your mom feels like she has no other options. As others have posted, there are resources to help individuals and families get out of Domestic Violence situations. (Domestic Violence is the ‘term’ used for this garbage, and you don’t have to have been hit to be a victim because it comes in many forms!) I recently used one such resource.
My spouse was being abusive, not physically, but in all other ways - emotional, psychological, financial, and using our child as leverage. He was very controlling. I became aware that in order to be a good mother, I needed to distance myself from this abuse and not let my life be consumed. So I left and have been living with my parents for most of a year now. I sought a retraining order (an ex-parte Domestic Violence Protective Order) and was granted it by the jugde. This allowed me to leave with the protection of the law to keep him away from me and from calling me incessantly. He was not charged with a crime, but he could have been if he violated that order. They are beautiful and beneficial opportunities for us meek ones to distance ourselves from the violence without having to go to war with the abuser!
I am certain that I did the right thing. I love my husband in that I wish the best for him, I pray for him to become a holy man, but there is no gain to be had in ‘throwing pearls to swine’. I did the charitable thing because I left before he got worse. He can lay his head on his pillow at night and regret many ugly things, but hitting me is not one of them. Praise and thanks be to God!
Before I left, I was depressed. I hardly saw the point in looking nice, I had no joy or motivation to be a housewife (that one’s not hard to figure out!) I didn’t take care of my own health as well as I needed. My husband still claims it was Post-Partum Depression but I am certain it was not. (I see doctors regularly and haven’t had such a diagnosis.) (Also, yes, it’s a shame that he’s still not come to terms with the fact that I left for good reasons.) I am happy as a mother, and am still breastfeeding and working little-to-none as my toddler is nearly a year and a half. I enjoy being a mother so much and feel deeply fulfilled in my vocation. All that is to say, I truly believe my depression was caused by my abusive marriage situation. I have since found counseling to be helpful, if for no other reason than that it’s nice to sit before a professional and have them tell you that your feelings are justified and that you aren’t crazy! Friendships with other young women who have been through similar situations have been such a blessing (be assured that there are very, very many women like us! We tend to not know it because who wants to share the bad news?) I pray that you find a good priest to talk to! That can be the most helpful.
Since I left I have healed (it takes time!) and am still healing. I am still unsure if we will remain married, but it is my hope that he will become the right husband for me. Our marriage cannot be saved by human reasoning! I am not encouraging anyone to remain in an abusive relationship by witnessing that I am trying to save my marriage still. It is hard territory to cover and I can only give my opinion.
Please avail yourself of all the support you deserve. You should never feel guilt for leaving a bad situation, and neither should your mom. She may have promised her commitment in good times and bad, but he promised to love her as Christ loves the Church. Breaking of vows is not always in one clear instance (such as an extramarital affair). I wonder now if my own spouse can really be the husband I let him promise me he would be. That’s still in God’s hands. I am faithful to him and we are ‘dating’ again but things aren’t great, and so I am happily settled in my parents’ home and don’t plan to leave anytime soon. Also, since I left it has been a wake-up call for him and he’s had to deal with his own demons instead of casting them on me and making me the object of his anger. It sounds like your dad and my spouse and many men I’ve heard of exhibit similar characteristics of being in utter denial of their hatefulness. I dearly recommend a book called ‘Emotional Blackmail’ by Susan Forward. It talks about how people can use Fear, Obligation, and Guilt to deceive us. I have found it humiliating to understand the state of affairs that was my marriage. I never expected this. My own father has a cool temper and never treated my mom roughly. I was not sheltered or encouraged to be overly submissive to a husband. I have lived independently, traveled abroad, and earned a Master’s degree. I do not fit the stereotype I had in my head for victims of Domestic Violence. I am extremely lucky I think, to have the resources I have had, but I still felt like I was being driven out of my sanity and I felt like I was drowning and desperate. I thank God that getting away was as simple as it was, because even then it was still very hard emotionally and practically.
I reiterate that even in my situation of being married to the abuser, it has been better for all involved that I left. It has been worth the trouble and life is much better! Please feel free to message me if you would like. I lend you my sisterly support. God bless you for reaching out and being strong!
 
Thank you so much everyone for your advice and prayers. It helps just to know that I am justified in feeling what I am feeling. I sometimes don’t handle my feelings very well and don’t know if it’s okay that I just feel so messed up. I recently got a job, but I can’t afford to move out yet. Please pray for me that I will make enough money this summer to be able to support myself from here on out. Please pray that I can get out of this situation. I hope God forgives me for the things that I do and for the things that I say as a result of what I feel. I want to do His will but I can’t do it here. I will only continue to sin under this roof. My feelings are my worse enemy. Please pray for me when I have not the strength to do so for myself.
I know I just wrote a filibustery-long reply… I want to suggest that perhaps if feeling angry is what you are calling a sin, perhaps you have misjudged it. I’ve heard it said that anger is the proper response to injustice. A favorite priest told me that. Jesus got angry. And that hot torch of rage you feel inside you, that may be a gift for strength for you when it comes time to take a stand and get out of there. Reach out for support. Domestic Violence situations are UNFAIR and nobody should have to live in them. Please don’t be afraid to get the help that’s available. These situations are unfortunately far too common, but fortunately that means that there may be an overwhelming amount of support and many people who know just what you have been through! We love you. Stay strong! Don’t do something evil in anger, but know that being angry in itself is not a sin!
In case this is in your neck of the woods… albemarlehopeline.org/
If not, just google your location and ‘Domestic Violence’. Praying for you.
 
Thank you so much everyone for your advice and prayers. It helps just to know that I am justified in feeling what I am feeling. I sometimes don’t handle my feelings very well and don’t know if it’s okay that I just feel so messed up. I recently got a job, but I can’t afford to move out yet. Please pray for me that I will make enough money this summer to be able to support myself from here on out. Please pray that I can get out of this situation. I hope God forgives me for the things that I do and for the things that I say as a result of what I feel. I want to do His will but I can’t do it here. I will only continue to sin under this roof. My feelings are my worse enemy. Please pray for me when I have not the strength to do so for myself.
Please get counselling at your university and get pastoral help to guide you, too. Not everything that is very hard to do or hard to say is a sin. Not everything that makes someone else angry when they hear it is a sin, not even when that someone is a parent. Sometimes, the things that make us feel the most guilty are actually our duties and sometimes even our rights. Sometimes, we say the right things in the wrong way and punish ourselves for lacking the skills to do the right thing in the most effective way.

You have been fed so much false information about what your duties are that you should expect to need reassurance and guidance to unlearn the false information and re-learn and come to let your heart believe the information that is going to guide you rightly.
 
First of all, as to whether God is pleased/displeased with your desire to move out, have you considered the possibility that God put the idea in your head in the first place? Maybe He did, maybe He didn’t. But keep in mind that normal adult children in normal families often want to move out at that age anyway, so why wouldn’t you? Why would it displease God for you to think about moving out when it isn’t displeasing to Him for normal people from normal families to move out?

So, if you are serious about moving out, here are some things that are helpful to do:
  1. Get a Post Office Box for your mail. Get a Safe Deposit Box until you have a permanent and safe home for your valuable documents. Never miss a payment on these. Not ever.
  2. Get your birth certificate, diplomas, and other vital documents.
3… Learn how to fill out grown-up documents, if you don’t know yet, such as tax forms, leases, etc.
  1. Learn how to handle grown-up forms of money, if you don’t know yet: checking accounts, credit cards, etc. I don’t mean “learn how to waste money” but rather “learn comparison shopping and self-control.”
  2. Learn how to drive, if you don’t know yet.
  3. Keep your eyes on the prize: moving out and staying out.
Now, here are some things that are*** not*** helpful to do, and so you should not do them:
  1. Do not waste time trying to convince the people you are leaving of how very bad, awful, no-good, big meanie, etc. they are.
(Note: as you spend more time with normal people, you will learn more about how normal people speak. Your comment about “letting the rapists and murderers in” isn’t one that normal people often say. Normal people say “letting the mosquitoes and salesmen in.” Is that something you’ve been programmed to believe so you’d be too scared of the outside world to venture forth into it and to leave, or is the family home in a place where rapists and murderers do in fact wander around jiggling door handles daily? If the former, you want to let dramatic phrases fade from your vocabulary. And if the latter, no one should be living there anyway.)
  1. Do not waste time trying to change anyone who is not You.
  2. Do not waste time trying to convince outsiders who are not specifically part of the process, such as counselors, protection officers, attorneys, etc. In fact, you probably shouldn’t be talking much about it at all. Basically, if you are serious about moving forward, then why you do exist here?.
(Note: Your new landlord, friends, schoolmates, and dates will avoid someone who smells like trouble; people who claim they’re being pursued feel creepy. The ones who do want to hear details that are none of their business are playing for Team Creepy; avoid them.)
  1. From the day you move out, do not ask for money from the people you left. Not one penny. Grown-ups expect to take care of themselves as much as possible.
(Note: asking for aid is problematic enough in healthy, normal families. Normal parents have a soft spot for their children, and so they can be bled dry through “boomerang” and other artificially-helpless tactics. Your situation is not normal. If you ask them for money, they will expect a return on their purchase. If you accept money, they will use it to control you.)
  1. Do not wait until you can achieve your family’s standard of living. You don’t need furniture, paintings, a living room, or much of anything to live. Remember *Proverbs 21:9 *and related. You need a roof, a door, a light bulb, a clean patch of floor to sleep on, your clothes in a cardboard box or Hefty Bags, and toileting facilities. If you have a car, you need a place to park it. It wouldn’t surprise me if they tell you you can’t take “your” bedroom furniture, because children can’t survive without it and so children would decide to stay. However dreadful your childhood home may be, it still took them decades to buy all that stuff. You don’t need it.
ALL OF THESE THINGS TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THE PRIZE.

Keep your eyes on the prize.
 
First of all, as to whether God is pleased/displeased with your desire to move out, have you considered the possibility that God put the idea in your head in the first place? Maybe He did, maybe He didn’t. But keep in mind that normal adult children in normal families often want to move out at that age anyway, so why wouldn’t you? Why would it displease God for you to think about moving out when it isn’t displeasing to Him for normal people from normal families to move out?

So, if you are serious about moving out, here are some things that are helpful to do:
  1. Get a Post Office Box for your mail. Get a Safe Deposit Box until you have a permanent and safe home for your valuable documents. Never miss a payment on these. Not ever.
  2. Get your birth certificate, diplomas, and other vital documents.
3… Learn how to fill out grown-up documents, if you don’t know yet, such as tax forms, leases, etc.
  1. Learn how to handle grown-up forms of money, if you don’t know yet: checking accounts, credit cards, etc. I don’t mean “learn how to waste money” but rather “learn comparison shopping and self-control.”
  2. Learn how to drive, if you don’t know yet.
  3. Keep your eyes on the prize: moving out and staying out.
Now, here are some things that are*** not***
helpful to do, and so you should not do them:
  1. Do not waste time trying to convince the people you are leaving of how very bad, awful, no-good, big meanie, etc. they are.
(Note: as you spend more time with normal people, you will learn more about how normal people speak. Your comment about “letting the rapists and murderers in” isn’t one that normal people often say. Normal people say “letting the mosquitoes and salesmen in.” Is that something you’ve been programmed to believe so you’d be too scared of the outside world to venture forth into it and to leave, or is the family home in a place where rapists and murderers do in fact wander around jiggling door handles daily? If the former, you want to let dramatic phrases fade from your vocabulary. And if the latter, no one should be living there anyway.)
  1. Do not waste time trying to change anyone who is not You.
  2. Do not waste time trying to convince outsiders who are not specifically part of the process, such as counselors, protection officers, attorneys, etc. In fact, you probably shouldn’t be talking much about it at all. Basically, if you are serious about moving forward, then why you do exist here?.
(Note: Your new landlord, friends, schoolmates, and dates will avoid someone who smells like trouble; people who claim they’re being pursued feel creepy. The ones who do want to hear details that are none of their business are playing for Team Creepy; avoid them.)
  1. From the day you move out, do not ask for money from the people you left. Not one penny. Grown-ups expect to take care of themselves as much as possible.
(Note: asking for aid is problematic enough in healthy, normal families. Normal parents have a soft spot for their children, and so they can be bled dry through “boomerang” and other artificially-helpless tactics. Your situation is not normal. If you ask them for money, they will expect a return on their purchase. If you accept money, they will use it to control you.)
  1. Do not wait until you can achieve your family’s standard of living. You don’t need furniture, paintings, a living room, or much of anything to live. Remember *Proverbs 21:9 *and related. You need a roof, a door, a light bulb, a clean patch of floor to sleep on, your clothes in a cardboard box or Hefty Bags, and toileting facilities. If you have a car, you need a place to park it. It wouldn’t surprise me if they tell you you can’t take “your” bedroom furniture, because children can’t survive without it and so children would decide to stay. However dreadful your childhood home may be, it still took them decades to buy all that stuff. You don’t need it.
ALL OF THESE THINGS TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THE PRIZE.

Keep your eyes on the prize.

Yes! Thank you for posting this Old Maid.
I am helping a girl friend of 21ish learn to drive. Her situation was like yours, and it took her mom years to move out. She is the third of 8 kids, and they were not encouraged to learn to drive. It took a lot of convincing to get her to give it a try. I told her that driving is not for ‘smart people’ (their dad made them feel incapable). I reminded her that stoners and drunks learn to drive, and it’s about practice, not intellect. She’s gotten decent and now she is more confident. She’ll get her license as soon as she saves up for the insurance. She and her little sister have both gotten jobs to help earn money, and she is planning to save for a car. God’s blessings abound!
I’ll echo Old Maid’s wisdom in what you really need to take with you. Go on a long weekend trip and you’ll see how little you actually need to get by comfortably. Or ever been backpacking? It’s a game to see how little you can get by with. Lightest load wins bragging rights. Don’t let ‘trappings’ trap you. There is a particular joy in freedom. Your heart will overflow as you sit on the bed (or sleeping bag on the floor!) eating the grocery store muffin you bought after an evening of work, because you will be bathed in the peace and security that God has given you the opportunity to afford. Don’t let fear hold you back. Our hearts are burning bright for you!
 
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