If I go Purgatory, how will I know it's not Hell?

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Alfonsus said:
It is, in some sense, heaven.
Purgatory is purgation of the saved, for His beloved, which means our immersion into the very grace of God.
All in purgatory are saints, all in purgatory will receive beatific vision.
So, if I found my self in purgatory, I will surely rejoice, because I will see God giving ointment and healing my hurts, making straight what is crooked in me, burning all my defects, inflaming my cold heart, shining trough all my darkness, opening doors that were still shut in me, casting away all chains of attachment I hide from Him… and then, when all is done, I see Him face to face and marvel upon what He had done.
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Yea Alfonsus, and all you Prots and various believers will have to go there whether you believe its so or not, so best be thankful , otherwise its the alternative:eek:
Peace, Carlan,
 
One of my favorite reflection on this subject, by Pope Benedict XVI (Encyclical Spe Salvi)
  1. Some recent theologians are of the opinion that the fire which both burns and saves is Christ himself, the Judge and Saviour. The encounter with him is the decisive act of judgement. Before his gaze all falsehood melts away. This encounter with him, as it burns us, transforms and frees us, allowing us to become truly ourselves. All that we build during our lives can prove to be mere straw, pure bluster, and it collapses. Yet in the pain of this encounter, when the impurity and sickness of our lives become evident to us, there lies salvation. His gaze, the touch of his heart heals us through an undeniably painful transformation “as through fire”. But it is a blessed pain, in which the holy power of his love sears through us like a flame, enabling us to become totally ourselves and thus totally of God. In this way the inter-relation between justice and grace also becomes clear: the way we live our lives is not immaterial, but our defilement does not stain us for ever if we have at least continued to reach out towards Christ, towards truth and towards love. Indeed, it has already been burned away through Christ’s Passion. At the moment of judgement we experience and we absorb the overwhelming power of his love over all the evil in the world and in ourselves. The pain of love becomes our salvation and our joy. It is clear that we cannot calculate the “duration” of this transforming burning in terms of the chronological measurements of this world. The transforming “moment” of this encounter eludes earthly time-reckoning—it is the heart’s time, it is the time of “passage” to communion with God in the Body of Christ[39]. The judgement of God is hope, both because it is justice and because it is grace. If it were merely grace, making all earthly things cease to matter, God would still owe us an answer to the question about justice—the crucial question that we ask of history and of God. If it were merely justice, in the end it could bring only fear to us all. The incarnation of God in Christ has so closely linked the two together—judgement and grace—that justice is firmly established: we all work out our salvation “with fear and trembling” (Phil 2:12). Nevertheless grace allows us all to hope, and to go trustfully to meet the Judge whom we know as our “advocate”, or parakletos (cf. 1 Jn 2:1).
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I am in truth a little shocked by what I am reading here. Going to purgatory is not the goal here, the goal is to go to heaven, pass go and collect $200. 😃

For those who are asking about plenary indulgences:

The requirements for a plenary indulgence are tougher than for a partial. After all, a plenary indulgence remove all the temporal punishment due for the sins committed up to that time.

(If you sin later, of course, the temporal punishment connected with the new sins isn’t covered by the earlier plenary indulgence, but, at least the punishment for the old sins isn’t revived.)

“To acquire a plenary indulgence,” says the Enchiridion, “it is necessary to perform the work to which the indulgence is attached and to fulfill the following three conditions: sacramental confession, Eucharistic Communion, and prayer for the intention of the Sovereign Pontiff. It is further required that all attachment to sin, even venial sin, be absent.”

(For those who want to know more, check this out)

catholic.org/clife/prayers/indulgc.php

I NEVER said it was easy, but is is something you can do. Also keep this in mind, if you fail in getting the plenary, you will still get a partial.
 
Speedypizza said:
I am in truth a little shocked by what I am reading here. Going to purgatory is not the goal here, the goal is to go to heaven, pass go and collect $200. 😃

For those who are asking about plenary indulgences:

The requirements for a plenary indulgence are tougher than for a partial. After all, a plenary indulgence remove all the temporal punishment due for the sins committed up to that time.

(If you sin later, of course, the temporal punishment connected with the new sins isn’t covered by the earlier plenary indulgence, but, at least the punishment for the old sins isn’t revived.)

“To acquire a plenary indulgence,” says the Enchiridion, “it is necessary to perform the work to which the indulgence is attached and to fulfill the following three conditions: sacramental confession, Eucharistic Communion, and prayer for the intention of the Sovereign Pontiff. ***It is further required that all attachment to sin, even venial sin, be absent.” ***(For those who want to know more, check this out)

catholic.org/clife/prayers/indulgc.php

I NEVER said it was easy, but is is something you can do. Also keep this in mind, if you fail in getting the plenary, you will still get a partial.
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Very good,SP, however, see the emphasized part of your post, If that is not achieved before your last breath, the purging of it will take place in the state we call purtatory before you make it past the pearly gates. Peace, Carlan
 
followingtheway,

no one has ever came back from the dead!!..how do you know Purgatory even exists??🤷

how do you even know hell exists??🤷

you know one thing though!!

you exist:rolleyes:
 
Carlan said:
Very good,SP, however, see the emphasized part of your post, If that is not achieved before your last breath, the purging of it will take place in the state we call purtatory before you make it past the pearly gates. Peace, Carlan/QUOT

Okay, so what you are trying to say is that it is impossible to do this, but the church is telling us to do this anyways just to laugh at us? Not easy does not mean impossible. Aim for the eagle, bag the pheasant and don’t eat crow.

Now for a question for everybody here, and I want people to think about this before they answer. Why do people seem to WANT to go to purgatory, as well as send me there so badly that when a way is pointed out of how to get out of going there, I am fought every step of the way? What need is that serving for you?

P.S. If you read of the visions of many saints they will tell you that some people DO escape purgatory 100%. Now I know that the saints visions are not perfect in every way, but they are a good pointer. In this case they line up with the teaching of the church on purgatory and indulgences.
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Speedypizza said:
Carlan;8281402:
Very good,SP, however, see the emphasized part of your post, If that is not achieved before your last breath, the purging of it will take place in the state we call purgatory before
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you make it past the pearly gates. Peace, Carlan[/QUOT

Okay, so what you are trying to say is that it is impossible to do this, but the church is telling us to do this anyways just to laugh at us? Not easy does not mean impossible. Aim for the eagle, bag the pheasant and don’t eat crow.

Now for a question for everybody here, and I want people to think about this before they answer. Why do people seem to WANT to go to purgatory, as well as send me there so badly that when a way is pointed out of how to get out of going there, I am fought every step of the way? What need is that serving for you?

P.S. If you read of the visions of many saints they will tell you that some people DO escape purgatory 100%. Now I know that the saints visions are not perfect in every way, but they are a good pointer. In this case they line up with the teaching of the church on purgatory and indulgences.
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No i am not saying it is impossible, of course it isn’t, but if we are are totally honest with our selves we’ll admit we are always falling short of the Glory of God .
And it might be a good idea for all of us to open the CCC and read what the Church teaches about temporal punishment.
We want to complete our purification, SP,because we know we are sinners and the Beatitudes tell us that only the pure in heart will see the face of God.
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   Now you are saying you are doing all there is to reach the holiness God requires of us(as holy as Jesus is holy). Good ! All who follow the sanctification process, which Jesus provided for us, through the sacraments are doing that. Our salvation will not be complete until our hearts have reached perfection in God.  And common sense makes me thankful and not afraid of the state of purgatory. :):thumbsup:Peace, Carlan
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