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I can’t even come close to relating to atheism. To accept such a religion I’d be an awfully dangerous man. Nothing would stop me from taking out a few persons…first I’d do the world a favor and behind the scenes be elevated to hero in some cases. The others would just be for gratification and who knows how many children with different mothers I’d have. Steeling…no problem …someone else claims things to be theirs so why not me…you stuff is mine…don’t get in my way or …well I’ll illiminate you…Murder is some manmade word… a thing made up by the haves and the scared. …you know weak people. It’s every man for himself… and philosophy…fooy on that that’s another man made thing that doesn’t fit in with the picuture. I’d illiminate them too. Why fear prison…kill them or be killed.

Man a whole new standard of living is developing in me… I better go back to believing in my God or those athiests are going to have to be illiminated. Better back off of that… The above is rewally true if I fell into that heresy. It’s the Father of Lies that convinces those to not believe in God… Even Satan believes in God.
 
So here’s another way to see it…the life expectancy of an atheist that convinces me my God does not exist is very short. Why. Because they took away the only thing that brings me happieness in this pathetic lost world we live in. And that’s the more positive way of putting it.
 
I can’t even come close to relating to atheism. To accept such a religion I’d be an awfully dangerous man. Nothing would stop me from taking out a few persons…first I’d do the world a favor and behind the scenes be elevated to hero in some cases. The others would just be for gratification and who knows how many children with different mothers I’d have. Steeling…no problem …someone else claims things to be theirs so why not me…you stuff is mine…don’t get in my way or …well I’ll illiminate you…Murder is some manmade word… a thing made up by the haves and the scared. …you know weak people. It’s every man for himself… and philosophy…fooy on that that’s another man made thing that doesn’t fit in with the picuture. I’d illiminate them too. Why fear prison…kill them or be killed.

Man a whole new standard of living is developing in me… I better go back to believing in my God or those athiests are going to have to be illiminated. Better back off of that… The above is rewally true if I fell into that heresy. It’s the Father of Lies that convinces those to not believe in God… Even Satan believes in God.
Wow! I am not sure I follow your logic. Just because someone feels they are atheistic in their current beliefs does not necessarily mean that they would feel justified in taking human lives. And where is your faith? How does our faith get strengthened? By trials and difficulties, and occasional doubts and subsequently seeking the truth. That journey can take a lifetime. I believe that satan gets a lot more credit than he deserves. Not saying that some things don’t smack of the diabolical, but man brings on a lot of misery to himself. I hope you return to a stronger faith; one that is not so easily shaken by current events and opinion. Pray man. Pray for strength of conviction in your faith. Pray for inner peace and a knowledge that God has a plan of goodness for you, and will protect you with His holy angels. Talk to a holy priest for guidance.
 
I can’t even come close to relating to atheism. To accept such a religion I’d be an awfully dangerous man. Nothing would stop me from taking out a few persons…first I’d do the world a favor and behind the scenes be elevated to hero in some cases.
The argument atheists might make is that doing those things wouldn’t make you happy, so unless you want to be miserable, doing those things would be extremely short-sighted and stupid.
 
I can’t even come close to relating to atheism. To accept such a religion I’d be an awfully dangerous man. Nothing would stop me from taking out a few persons…first I’d do the world a favor and behind the scenes be elevated to hero in some cases. The others would just be for gratification and who knows how many children with different mothers I’d have. Steeling…no problem …someone else claims things to be theirs so why not me…you stuff is mine…don’t get in my way or …well I’ll illiminate you…Murder is some manmade word… a thing made up by the haves and the scared. …you know weak people. It’s every man for himself… and philosophy…fooy on that that’s another man made thing that doesn’t fit in with the picuture. I’d illiminate them too. Why fear prison…kill them or be killed.

Man a whole new standard of living is developing in me… I better go back to believing in my God or those athiests are going to have to be illiminated. Better back off of that… The above is rewally true if I fell into that heresy. It’s the Father of Lies that convinces those to not believe in God… Even Satan believes in God.
But then these questions appear: Is the only reason you are following God because you fear hell? Also, why arent you doing good out of love? Are you jealous of those who can have all the sexual pleasures and greed that they want?

If so, does that mean that an atheist has a better sense of morality than you? Will an atheist who leaves with a good conscience going to enter heaven before the average Catholic?

Vocatio, I know what you mean though, I have often wondered why atheists seem to be so “decent” considering that they do not have a fear of God or eternal punishment. I think that the belief that we are all born in the image of God is the reason. To an extent we are all born with a sense of morality and godliness.

What I also thought about is whether a Catholic just imagines that if they became an atheist they would do all those bad things that they have refused to do now. But, the reality is there would be only a certain number of bad things you would do before fear, embarrassment etc, as well as the desire for other pleasures would take over. Furthermore, one should remember that even an atheist can only enjoy worldly pleasures so much, until the bitterness and the consequences of those things set in.

Another thought is, do you think if you “became” an atheist you would just commit suicide? Maybe enjoy things for a while :rolleyes:, and when the consequences and bitterness comes in, just end it. Why do atheists have such a will to live? Is it their family, fear of suicide, money? Or does the thought of that never enter an average atheist’s mind?
 
To accept such a religion I’d be an awfully dangerous man.
Btw, I dont think an atheist would appreciate you saying that atheism is a religion. Its actually a complete lack of religion. I don’t think they want anything to do with religion.
 
Speaking as a Former Atheist.

I helped my neighbors…

I followed my version of the Golden Rule…

I respected the rights of others…

I did not steal or want to cause injury to others…

I LOVED my children and husband…

I understood right from wrong and lived accordingly…

Etc…

As a Catholic, my life is so much more complete now. Everything that I did before, the way I lived my life has more meaning now and a true purpose.

I think the Holy Spirit has always been working on me through my entire life and I just didn’t know it.:rolleyes:
 
I can’t even come close to relating to atheism. To accept such a religion I’d be an awfully dangerous man. Nothing would stop me from taking out a few persons…first I’d do the world a favor and behind the scenes be elevated to hero in some cases. The others would just be for gratification and who knows how many children with different mothers I’d have. Steeling…no problem …someone else claims things to be theirs so why not me…you stuff is mine…don’t get in my way or …well I’ll illiminate you…Murder is some manmade word… a thing made up by the haves and the scared. …you know weak people. It’s every man for himself… and philosophy…fooy on that that’s another man made thing that doesn’t fit in with the picuture. I’d illiminate them too. Why fear prison…kill them or be killed.

Man a whole new standard of living is developing in me… I better go back to believing in my God or those athiests are going to have to be illiminated. Better back off of that… The above is rewally true if I fell into that heresy. It’s the Father of Lies that convinces those to not believe in God… Even Satan believes in God.
Congratulations, you are a sociopath held in check only by the irrational fear of eternal torment.
 
Congratulations, you are a sociopath held in check only by the irrational fear of eternal torment.
Its kinda ironic that the atheist could be a “better” person than a Catholic, when put in this perspective.

It would be interesting to see how a former devout Catholic lives compared to an average person who has been atheist since childhood.
 
Its kinda ironic that the atheist could be a “better” person than a Catholic, when put in this perspective.

It would be interesting to see how a former devout Catholic lives compared to an average person who has been atheist since childhood.
I will only speak from my own personal experience, but my spouse who has been a lifelong atheist is a much better person than I, a former devout Catholic, at least in my honest opinion.
 
Its kinda ironic that the atheist could be a “better” person than a Catholic, when put in this perspective.

It would be interesting to see how a former devout Catholic lives compared to an average person who has been atheist since childhood.
This is not logical. If there is no God then I define what makes me happy. To look at it from a selfish perspective, I know several people involved directly or indirectly that are rapists by definition…trust me the only thing keeping me from hurting those people is God. If God loves me and I believe in him. then there is hope. There is hope for me. So there is hope for others and my leaving them alone is an act of charity.

My life has been nearly ruined because I profess my faith in word and deed. My actions …choices if you will…make working difficult. There are way to many folks that are prone to cut throat…going above and beyond to hurt those around us to move up or keep their job or whatever. Many of them are divorced, rapist mentality, exploiting other no matter…They are the demented ones. My thinking is a means to think about the agenda of an atheist…one that particularly wants to convert Christians to their faith…the absence of faith…and my definition…it is a religion…like it or not.
 
Btw, I dont think an atheist would appreciate you saying that atheism is a religion. Its actually a complete lack of religion. I don’t think they want anything to do with religion.
You are mistaken.
 
Its kinda ironic that the atheist could be a “better” person than a Catholic, when put in this perspective.

It would be interesting to see how a former devout Catholic lives compared to an average person who has been atheist since childhood.
How could an atheist define “good”?

CDL
 
If the OP doesn’t answer I will give it a try soon.

CDL
First, it’s just not true that an athiest can’t find good if he/she looks for it. Natural Law. But if you reject all things that go against what you’re trying to hide then you might even reject “good”. Good becomes what feels good for me, not others. I’ve worked for men that were on their 6th marriage… Were they athiest …no. My currentl boss says he’s not religious. I suspect that deep down he’s either egnostic or athiest. I beleive the inteligent love to act smarter than religion and even God. It’s part of the combat for success or being “better” than anyone else. Engineering school was extremely competative and frankly produces some of the worst personalities of people trying to “prove” they are better than anyone else. I see it everyday. I’m not interested.

And to answer the question “what did they do to you”. I went to the seminary. My spiritual director made an attempted pass on me while I was asleep. Long story short I ran. over time I bagan to doubt the existence of God. I toyed occasionally with wondering if God really existed to allow such carnage …havoc in the world. I joined the army and experiences some of the worst people you’ll ever come across. I nearly got court martialed over a lie. Thankfully, I was "squared away enough that a high ranking NCO admitted that he lies about confirming the appearance of a junior officer that lied about his whereabouts after I let the cat out the bag that I dropped him off and tried to talk him out of jumping the fence in the field to go see a girlfriend…he was married. The CSM told the commander what the 1st Sergeant admitted to and they let me off the hook and tried to redeem me. My reputation was tanted anyhow and I left the military with honors but with a very bad taste with knowledge how easy it is for men to abuse their power and authority. Interestingly, I experienced the same it seemed at the time to be the same in Catholicm and was the main reason I doubted the Catholic Church as being the one true Church. Long story short I cam back after a lot more education and simply stumbling into historical documents that pointed to either Catholic Church or Eastern Orthodox Church. I struggled with that and now have accepted that I’m Catholic but working on reconciling opposing positions on this issue.

During the times I nearly rejected God I became very depressed and believed strongly that I need to believe in God. First because I grew up in an abusive home, tossed around between parents, grandparents and step parents. I’ve seen the worst of people. My oldest brother got so close to the end of his rope that he commited suicide. My youngest who does not know God…tried at least twice and talked about it recentlfy. I talked him out of that thinking. He’s lost. It seems that life has no purpose without God and thus to talk people out of believing in a God is just simply cruel and selfish. So a proselytizing athiest would be top on my long list of “hits”. I’m not that crazy…just trying to make a point.

In the area I live in, athiests have started their own “church”. They sing, study and do similar things that Christians do at church for fellowship. It seems that they too need a god and have dubbed that God “Science”…teaching evolution etc as a mere accident that brought about their existence. How meaningless of a life can you get. Without God there is no real purpose in living. Sex is not that great. Travel is a pain and learning a waste of time… So why not just die and while I’m doing it I might as well do something good and get rid of the people that hurt me, my wife and my family over the years.

Have you seen the series “DEXTER”? This is the life of an athiest that just gets his kicks out of killing serial killers…as if that’s okay… This is where atheism leads us…programs that justify killing for “the common good” or just for fun. Look at the video games out there. Look at the children that are commiting suicide in our society. Look at the massive justification for allowing people to die in wars…Iraq War for example…Look at AbuGrave [spelling?]. Look how women are flocking to stipping, drugs and porn. Look at abortion…partial birth abortion??? How could anyone justify killing a child that is about to be born. Sure all abortion is wrong, but partial birth abortion is just sick. We joke in criticism of this that we think about aborting our children…they are walking now. Look how quick we are to put people under and away to make our lifes easier. Just putting “organ donor” on your drivers license could be lethal. Take it off by the way unless you don’t mind someone making a wrong decission whether you’re gonna make it or not.

The list is just endless. No, atheism is just another religion that serves only Satan. Be kind if you will, but it is the killing of God that has brought us to many of these problems.
 
Athiest adopt and conform to whatever the overall morals and ethics in their society are. They do a little outside what the religous teach is morally and ethically acceptable, especially on personal matters that no one will ever know about but over all they just try to fit in. They don’t want to go around saying rape is ok because then we would see right through them. If you ask an athiest in the United States if having sex with a 15 year old girl is ok, they will say no because most Americans would say no. If you asked an athiest in a muslim country they would say yes. They are just trying to fit in. They don’t have a moral compass of their own so they just do what they have been socialized to do and not go too far outside. This is why you can’t find an athiest who will ever tell you that masterbation is wrong. They will stand up for that in almost any country and say that it is morally ok. They figure that they aren’t hurting someone else with this so objections to it should just go away and most of the time they do. They do what they can get away with in the society they live in.
 
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