If intinction was made an option at your parish, would you use it?

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Yes, I would love to have this option. I never receive from the chalice because of germs. Intinction allows me to receive under both species. We have it at the Anglican Use parish in town and it’s wonderful, love it whenever I visit. They kneel at the altar rail and there are no EMHCs.
 
I prefer the proper use of intinction because it uses both species while avoiding the danger of droppage, spillage, or profanation. It allows those who fear the common chalice to receive both species (although there has never been known a case of illness spread through reception of the Precious Blood).

In most of the Eastern Rites, a form of intinction is used. One Maronite church in my area uses standard flat Hosts like Latin Rite parishes do. The priest simply dips the Host into the Precious Blood, which is done using an intinction dish/paten with a cup attached to the center, and places It on the communicant’s tongue. Only the priest gives Holy Communion, while a server holds a paten under the communicant’s chin. Other rites which use leavened bread (not an option in the Roman Rite) mingle the cut cubes of the Body of Christ into the Precious Blood within a large chalice, which are then scooped out with a spoon and dropped into the communicant’s mouth (no oral contact) or sucked through a golden straw (more common in Russia).
 
CradleCath said:
Niether have I, more’s the pity. But then, I don’t see the reverence for the Body of Christ that I saw during the years when they used a paten. In my opinion, this is not simply a coincidence.

When the laity began receiving in the hand, standing to receive with no paten, reverence began to fade.
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Always patens at my parish. Very reverent OF, I’ve heard our pastor described as “implementing the true spirit of Vatican 2”. 😃 Sorry, I have to brag on my parish whenever possible!
 
crm114 said:
Fear not; the technology exists; it’s called an intinction set. The minister of communion holds the intinction set in one hand, and uses the other hand to hold, intinct and administer the host. The altar boy holds the paten.

To see an example, use the link below or, if it does not work, just google intinction ciborium image.

catholicchurchsupply.com/index.cfm/title/Intinction-Ciborium/FuseAction/store.ItemDetails/SKU/11024/
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Ahhh, I see & it looks like it would work. AND it might get the laity back into the pews. I’d be all for it.
 
cecilia97 said:
Always patens at my parish. Very reverent OF, I’ve heard our pastor described as “implementing the true spirit of Vatican 2”. 😃 Sorry, I have to brag on my parish whenever possible!
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You go right ahead & brag. You are blessed. Not only had I not seen a paten for 40 yrs.+ until I started attending the TLM. in another parish, I’ve never seen the Novus Ordo Mass in Latin.
 
I have seen it done where the deacon (or instituted acolyte) holds the ciborium while the priest holds the chalice. The priest does the intinction, and there are patens. I would perfer this way, so you dont have those goofy looking intinction sets. You can still you the beautiful chaliaces and ciboriums that some many of our parishes have.
 
Eilish_Maura said:
They may need to re-evaluate that kind of thinking - it may have touched the Precious Blood but it was not ruined nor broken or other reason something would be buried.
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Broken?? You do realize that the purificator is a piece of cloth, right?? Often made & embroidered by the women in the parish who tend to the cleaning of Altar linens.
They also hold fundraisers that support the purchase of liturgical needs. They usually call themselves the Altar Society…get it? Altar??

Ps. If the purificator has absorbed any of the Blood of Christ it needs to be returned to the earth. As Catholics, the way we treat our Holy items often shows just how we feel about them.
 
CradleCath said:
Broken?? You do realize that the purificator is a piece of cloth, right?? Often made & embroidered by the women in the parish who tend to the cleaning of Altar linens.
They also hold fundraisers that support the purchase of liturgical needs. They usually call themselves the Altar Society…get it? Altar??

Ps. If the purificator has absorbed any of the Blood of Christ it needs to be returned to the earth. As Catholics, the way we treat our Holy items often shows just how we feel about them.
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Do you have documentation for that practice?

Purificators are rinsed (to remove any trace of the Blessed Species) and washed regularly - stains are not generally allow to set to the point where they cannot be removed.
 
I wash the altar linens for a priest who is extremely holy and devout. He guards the Eucharist with his life. The church doesn’t have a ciborium.

First, I have to wash them in a tub of plain water. Then I pour the water out along the house wall in an area where no one walks. Then I use more water and rinse them again. If there are any remaining spots, I allow them to soak until the Blood is no longer in the linens and is only in the water. I pour the water out the same way again. I rinse the bucket out and pour the water out in the ground again. I then launder them in the washing machine, dry and iron as usual.

It is a real penance for the winter time to be outside washing in water. It brings home to me the Real Presence in a unique and personal way.

The priest also uses intinction so I receive that way.
 
Maritsa said:
I wash the altar linens for a priest who is extremely holy and devout. He guards the Eucharist with his life. The church doesn’t have a ciborium.

First, I have to wash them in a tub of plain water. Then I pour the water out along the house wall in an area where no one walks. Then I use more water and rinse them again. If there are any remaining spots, I allow them to soak until the Blood is no longer in the linens and is only in the water. I pour the water out the same way again. I rinse the bucket out and pour the water out in the ground again. I then launder them in the washing machine, dry and iron as usual.

It is a real penance for the winter time to be outside washing in water. It brings home to me the Real Presence in a unique and personal way.

The priest also uses intinction so I receive that way.
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The usual way to clean a Purificator is by rinsing it in a Sacrarium until no trace of the stain left by the Precious Blood is left. (If a stain remains, only then is the Purificator to be buried.) Perhaps your Church doesn’t have a Sacrarium?? It’s that “special” sink close to a wall that drains directly into the earth.

The important thing, however, is that you are rinsing & re-rinsing the cloth & letting the water flow directly into the earth.

I’ll wager that the way you do it IS a “penance” during the winter.
 
Eilish_Maura said:
Do you have documentation for that practice?

Originally Posted by Eilish Maura
They may need to re-evaluate that kind of thinking - it [a purificator}[/COLOR] may have touched the Precious Blood but it was not ruined nor broken or other reason something would be buried.

So, How does one break a cloth, Eilish Maura??
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zagjames said:
Probably get a clean purificator, collect the drop from the floor, and bury the purificator or something to the like. (at least that is what some of the old priests i know would do. Old priests tend to know whats up better then younger ones, by old I mean 70+)
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zagjames said:
Yes but because the sacrarium has to drain directly into the dirt, it is equivelent to burying the purificator. I know several priests who would feel it better to discard a purificator if the precious Blood has touched it. And by discard, I mean in the way any holy thing should be discarded, by being returned to the earth.
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CradleCath said:
Ps. If the purificator has absorbed any of the Blood of Christ it needs to be returned to the earth. As Catholics, the way we treat our Holy items often shows just how we feel about them.
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For goodness’s sake, someone should tell these priests to keep the purificators away from the Eucharistic vessels – They are getting particles and drops and stuff all over them! :eek:

If only there were some distinguished altar linen that could be used with the sacred vessels and carefully laundered afterward instead… Something like – I don’t know – A purificator!

:whacky:
tee
 
zagjames said:
Yes but because the sacrarium has to drain directly into the dirt, it is equivelent to burying the purificator.** I know several priests who would feel it better to discard a purificator if the precious Blood has touched it.** And by discard, I mean in the way any holy thing should be discarded, by being returned to the earth.
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As do I, zagjames.
 
tee_eff_em said:
For goodness’s sake, someone should tell these priests to keep the purificators away

from the Eucharistic vessels – They are getting particles and drops and stuff all over them! :eek:

If only there were some distinguished altar linen that could be used with the sacred vessels and carefully laundered afterward instead… Something like – I don’t know – A purificator!

:whacky:
tee
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😛 😛 :rotfl:
 
CradleCath said:
Eilish Maura;3582447:
Do you have documentation for that practice?

Originally Posted by Eilish Maura
They may need to re-evaluate that kind of thinking - it [a purificator}[/COLOR] may have touched the Precious Blood but it was not ruined nor broken or other reason something would be buried.
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So, How does one break a cloth, Eilish Maura??

Find someone else to argue with OK?
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CradleCath said:
The usual way to clean a Purificator is by rinsing it in a Sacrarium until no trace of the stain left by the Precious Blood is left. (If a stain remains, only then is the Purificator to be buried.) Perhaps your Church doesn’t have a Sacrarium?? It’s that “special” sink close to a wall that drains directly into the earth.

The important thing, however, is that you are rinsing & re-rinsing the cloth & letting the water flow directly into the earth.

I’ll wager that the way you do it IS a “penance” during the winter.
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I said the church doesn’t have a ciborium. I meant to say it doesn’t have a sacrarium. 😊

I can’t imagine what parishes would do if every piece of cloth that touched the Body or Blood was burned or buried. There would be a lot of poor parishes with the linen bill!
 
Maritsa said:
I said the church doesn’t have a ciborium. I meant to say it doesn’t have a sacrarium. 😊

I can’t imagine what parishes would do if every piece of cloth that touched the Body or Blood was burned or buried. There would be a lot of poor parishes with the linen bill!
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A lot of linens in the ground as well. It wouldn’t take long for an urban parish to fill up any land alloted to them with buried purificators and whatnot.

Wouldn’t be the most attractive option in the long-term, either.
 
I was a a methodist service once and they had little paper cups on a tray with grape juice in it for that purpose, that seemed to be a good way to go, more like what you would do as a caterer, it reminded me of that as I saw them spread out on a platter.
 
Brian_Millar said:
I was a a methodist service once and they had little paper cups on a tray with grape juice in it for that purpose, that seemed to be a good way to go, more like what you would do as a caterer, it reminded me of that as I saw them spread out on a platter.
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Sounds like a really good way to spill the Precious Blood to me.
 
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