If Jesus was Jewish..did he do the Passover and such?

[katpants]

Okay olden question from my Torah keeper days.

Jesus was Jewish and did the holy days and kept Sabbath, so Torah Keepers said that means we’re supposed to do them as well. ???

I believed that when Christ died all that was gone since he was the final sacrifice and freed us from the “obligations” of doing all the Jewish traditions/law. Is that right?

Thanks!

Kat

 

[meltzerboy]

Okay olden question from my Torah keeper days.

Jesus was Jewish and did the holy days and kept Sabbath, so Torah Keepers said that means we’re supposed to do them as well. ???

I believed that when Christ died all that was gone since he was the final sacrifice and freed us from the “obligations” of doing all the Jewish traditions/law. Is that right?

Thanks!

Kat

According to my understanding of the Catholic perspective, you are freed from some of the Law–such as the rituals, dietary laws, and holidays including the Sabbath–but not from all of the Law, such as the moral principles of the Ten Commandments. Jesus echoed what Hillel the Elder had stated a generation before with regard to the Law, namely, there are two pillars: loving G-d and loving thy neighbor, and all the rest is commentary.

 

[Cor_ad_Cor]

According to my understanding of the Catholic perspective, you are freed from some of the Law–such as the rituals, dietary laws, and holidays including the Sabbath–but not from all of the Law, such as the moral principles of the Ten Commandments. Jesus echoed what Hillel the Elder had stated a generation before with regard to the Law, namely, there are two pillars: loving G-d and loving thy neighbor, and all the rest is commentary.

This is a good way to put it.

Yes, the old law is fulfilled in Jesus, and as such, we don’t observe all of its prescriptions. This was clarified by the first Church Council in Jerusalem (recorded in the book of Acts) when the Apostles (esp. Peter, Paul, and James) made definitive statements that gentile converts did not need to be circumcised or observe the dietary laws of the Jewish people.

 

[sirach2v4]

Joachim Jeremias was a methodist and a scripture scholar. I’m reading his book The Eucharistic Sayings of Jesus. I’m almost to the end and he stops short of giving the fullest meaning to the Eucharist, the real presence of the Lord, body, blood, soul, and divinity.

Jeremias asserts that Jesus was present at the last supper, but that He refrained from eating the passover lamb, etc. This is based on Jesus words of “avowal” (loosely) that He will not eat or drink until the arrival of the kingdom.

What is more telling, is data Jeremias provides that, imitating Jesus, Christians later fasted on the evening of Passover while the Jews were feasting, and celebrated the breaking of bread after midnight in celebration of Jesus’ triumph, adhering to His command to repeat this meal.

At a higher level, Jeremias describes the Gospel accounts of the last supper as being recorded in a liturgical way, and he says not the actual historical account of the last supper. for one thing, he says, Jesus undoubted said a lot more at the last supper than has been recorded.

He describes I Co 12 as the first record of the last supper, and that by Paul who “passed on what he had received” which was a liturgical account of the last supper, and not necessarily the historical in its entirety. Having said so much, Jeremias attributes the words to Jesus, and interprets their unexpected meaning at the last supper.

This author and book was mentioned by Dr. David Anders on his EWTN radio program, Called to Communion, about ten days ago – but I heard his comments about this book rather out of context, I had just tuned in.

The book is very difficult to follow. first of all, it’s a translation from the original German. And, the book is very technical in frequent analysis of Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and Syrian version of New Testament texts. And, he unreservedly quotes the Jewish Talmud with respect to the “semitisms” of Jesus words, as needed.

In short, Jesus’ last supper was essentially connected to the Jewish passover, but He transformed it in ways that can only be attributed to Him, and no later writer. The essence of Jesus words has been preserved, but in a liturgical format that was probably not the underlying historical version.

Hopes this helps. I think it relates to your question.

 

[LethalMouse]

Okay olden question from my Torah keeper days.

Jesus was Jewish and did the holy days and kept Sabbath, so Torah Keepers said that means we’re supposed to do them as well. ???

I believed that when Christ died all that was gone since he was the final sacrifice and freed us from the “obligations” of doing all the Jewish traditions/law. Is that right?

Thanks!

Kat

Obligations

Nothing says you can’t though

Celebrate all the holidays!!!

I like celebrations

 

[MT1926]

Okay olden question from my Torah keeper days.

Jesus was Jewish and did the holy days and kept Sabbath, so Torah Keepers said that means we’re supposed to do them as well. ???

I believed that when Christ died all that was gone since he was the final sacrifice and freed us from the “obligations” of doing all the Jewish traditions/law. Is that right?

Thanks!

Kat

Jesus didn’t come to abolish the law, he came to fulfill it. Some Christians like to say he did away with the old laws/traditions and therefore there is nothing expected of us to inherit salvation. However, just because we are not bound by the old covenant laws does not mean we are not bound by his new covenant.

Here is a link to a great talk by Dr. Scott Hahn, where he goes in depth about the celebration of the Passover meal at the last supper. Drawing parallels to Jesus death on the cross and to the Eucharist.

stpaulcenter.com/media/audio/the-fourth-cup

 

[Ad_Orientem]

This is a touchy and contentious topic, so I will tread carefully, but there are three important things to note.

1. According to Catholic belief, Christianity is the fulfillment and continuation of the religion of Old Testament Judaism. The religion practiced today and called Judaism, although sharing a common history with us, is not the revealed religion or part of it (due to its rejection of the Messiah when he came in the flesh).
2. As others have noted, the ceremonial observances of the Old Law are superseded by those of the New.
3. At least in some cases, formally to observe the ceremonies of the Old Law would be sinful, since they are oriented towards a future Messiah who is not yet come. On this point see St. Thomas Aquinas, S.T. IIa, Q. 103.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Jesus did observe the Passover according to Scripture.

Preparations for the Passover.

When the day of the feast of Unleavened Bread arrived, the day for sacrificing the Passover lamb,

he sent out Peter and John, instructing them, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.”

They asked him, “Where do you want us to make the preparations?”

And he answered them, “When you go into the city, a man will meet you carrying a jar of water.* Follow him into the house that he enters

and say to the master of the house, ‘The teacher says to you, “Where is the guest room where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?”’

He will show you a large upper room that is furnished. Make the preparations there.”

Then they went off and found everything exactly as he had told them, and there they prepared the Passover. Luke 22: 7-13 NAB

However, its unlikely that the Last Supper where Jesus instituted the Holy Eucharist, was the official Passover Meal celebrated by Jews at that time, but according to Pope Benedict XVI’s book, “Jesus of Nazareth,” scholars lean toward it being prior to the official Passover Meal, which was celebrated on Saturday, the day after his death. Jesus knowing he would not be around for the official Passover, celebrated it before His arrest.

But to answer the OP’s question, yes, Jesus observed the Passover meal.

Jim

 

[pwlj_christ87]

Jesus was fully Jewish and debated with alot of Jewish scholars and people of high position all the time, his mother even was mad at him when he stayed behind leaving them to do such things, Jesus is and was 100 percent Jewish, and Christianity is deriven from Judaism,

“i have come not to abolish the old, but to fulfill”

" one must put on new wine skins so the old dont burst "

henceforth when muslims say that Mary was a muslim and such, it makes no ideological sense, unless of course you are a muslim who believes that,

 

[katpants]

Thanks everyone!

Kat

 

[CRATUS]

The last supper is passover. I may be wrong

 

[JimR-OCDS]

CRATUS;14050291]The last supper is passover. I may be wrong

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Most likely not the official Passover Meal at that time, per Pope Benedict XVI in his book, Jesus of Nazareth.

Jim