If Lucifer is a Seraphim, then...?

[Della]

You are referring to more of the long term aspects, Im talking more about the immediate, instantly recognizable things mankind, animals, the earth, nature, etc lost due to the fall.

Lets say I die in a state of mortal sin, and I renounce God, just as satan did, In a sense, I would be committing the same sin that led to Satan being kicked out of heaven, Does God still ‘allow’ me to do certain things, have immense power and influence over the physical world, allow me to ‘come and go’ from the earth at will?

Im having a hard time explaining what I really mean here, but I guess the main point is, everything else seemed to suffer greatly due to the fall, while satan and the fallen will eventually suffer (maybe in millions of years), when you look at it in the ‘short term’, they seemed to get exactly what they were after, they were cast down WITH US, and retained their ability to influence us, the earth, animals, etc. So in that regard, satan and the fallen DO experience at least some joy in knowing they are drawing people away from God.

a good example would be this…lets say I express my desire to rob banks and cause all kinds of destruction, so as ‘punishment’, I am sent to a town FILLED with banks and given a job working right in the vault…If the story of the fall is accurate, satan got what he wanted in sense, in the ability to continue drawing people away from God, and with the way of the world right now…he has been pretty successful.

Got’cha now, I think. The only answer we have is that in allowing Satan and the demons to do all they do, is that God wills to keep Satan and the demons active in the world–in part because we humans gave them that power when we obeyed Satan rather than obeying God. As C. S. Lewis put it, we are living in “enemy territory” until Christ comes again.

It’s not a matter of Satan getting to keep his powers in the short term as if he is being rewarded. He has his full comeuppance coming. He and the demons and the wicked humans will be “cast into the lake of fire.” So, don’t be jealous that for the present he is allowed to come and go and create havoc in the world. We humans gave him that power, remember, when we gave in to temptation and fell from grace. Christ came to modify his seeming victory and guard us against his wiles for the present until the full victory is won. We are “reaping the whirlwind” of our decision in Adam and Eve to defy God and obey Satan.

It’s not a simple issue, but we trust in Christ and his promise that Satan will be totally defeated. Until then we fight the “good fight” against him as faithful members of Christ’s Church. Satan isn’t getting away with anything. He is only heaping up for himself more damnation which no one is forcing him to do, but which he is doing of his own volition and hatred for God and humanity.