If Luther came back today, what church would he belong to?

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Well, he was a manic-depressive, so there’s no telling. Since he’s been roasting in hell for 500 years, he might be willing to try catholicism again. Maybe he’s learned a lesson. Roanoker
 
roanoker said:
Well, he was a manic-depressive, so there’s no telling. Since he’s been roasting in hell for 500 years, he might be willing to try catholicism again. Maybe he’s learned a lesson. Roanoker
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Few things irritate me more than when someone claims to know who is damned. Only God knows that, and in case you haven’t noticed, you are not God. And as a Christian, aren’t you supposed to be praying for the forgiveness of sinners? If God desires that all men be saved, why shouldn’t you? Not to mention the fact that God doesn’t damn people for mental illness. Would you disagree?

Martin Luther realized shortly before his death that he had made a terrible mistake, and started the process of coming back into communion with the Church. Unfortunately, due to the long transit time of messages, he died before it was complete. So if you really think he’s in hell, perhaps you could explain to us how sincere repentance is good enough for the thief on the cross and other sinners, but not for Luther.

Also, I confess myself surprised that a protestant would have such venomous words for the founder of protestantism.
 
Maybe Roman Catholic, but who really knows…Lutheran scholars contacted the Patriarch of Constantinople, but they couldn’t agree on some issues like the Eucharist, justification and the Filioque, so I doubt he would be Orthodox (especially since he agreed with the Filioque) before he would rejoin his Mother Church…

Prayers and petitions,
Alexius:cool:
 
SIA said:
Just a bit of wonder.
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Definitely not Lutheran. Luther did not support the rights of homosexuals while some Lutherans do, for example Swedish Lutheran preachers participated in a gay parade in Stockholm.
 
roanoker said:
Well, he was a manic-depressive, so there’s no telling. Since he’s been roasting in hell for 500 years, he might be willing to try catholicism again. Maybe he’s learned a lesson. Roanoker
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Wow. So Christ-like of you. I am sure He would be proud.
 
roanoker said:
Well, he was a manic-depressive, so there’s no telling. Since he’s been roasting in hell for 500 years, he might be willing to try catholicism again. Maybe he’s learned a lesson. Roanoker
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This angers me to no end and is completely un-Christian to say.
 
jesusluv said:
This angers me to no end and is completely un-Christian to say.
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Thank you, jesusluv. Why do these sorts of attitudes exist? And I do not mean within just one branch of Christianity; I mean in EVERY branch!

P.S. I know some will be offended by the use of the word “branch”, but I hope, instead, those folks will see the larger point.
 
Luther was a very intelligent man. Modern breakthroughs would convince him that religion in general is junk & superstition. He would become an agnostic. 😃
 
Freshman88 said:
ah, there we go. Now your post makes sense.
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You would flip your lid if a Protestant said that about a pope or other Catholic leader. Why is it you get the right to assault the statements of others when they are not meant to attack anyone else? I would start naming some of the popes who have been murderers, thieves, adulterers etc, but then that might lower me to your level. Why do so many people have to make such mean remarks that are meant to attack and insult? Is that what this forum is about?
 
reteeks21 said:
You would flip your lid if a Protestant said that about a pope or other Catholic leader. Why is it you get the right to assault the statements of others when they are not meant to attack anyone else? I would start naming some of the popes who have been murderers, thieves, adulterers etc, but then that might lower me to your level. Why do so many people have to make such mean remarks that are meant to attack and insult? Is that what this forum is about?
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His statement did seem a tad offensive to all believer all around.

Anyway, can’t say i’m a big fan of Luther either, two birds with one stone, quite a deal.
 
Freshman88 said:
His statement did seem a tad offensive to all believer all around.

Anyway, can’t say i’m a big fan of Luther either, two birds with one stone, quite a deal.
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You know what, though? That is absolutely fine if none of us like him! That is the beauty of being able to talk and share ideas. But it crosses the line when people, purposefully, say things that are meant to hurt. Regardless, I really appreciate the way you put your feeling towards Luther. A civil tone like that can lead to great civil conversation.
 
It doesn’t matter what Luther would come back as.

He was a highly intelligent, principled, brave, motivated man who wrote good hymns, and was also rigid, angry, and difficult like many reformers have been throughout the ages.
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If *Luther *hadn’t started out objecting to indulgences and ended up launching the Reformation, someone else would have.

There were a host of great reformers after Luther. Reform was inevitable, given the condition of the RCC at the time. As far as I’m concerned Luther did the RCC a huge favor, and I think many *Catholic theologians agree.
 
1234 said:
It doesn’t matter what Luther would come back as.

He was a highly intelligent, principled, brave, motivated man who wrote good hymns, and was also rigid, angry, and difficult like many reformers have been throughout the ages.
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If *Luther **hadn’t started out objecting to indulgences and ended up launching the Reformation, someone else would have.

There were a host of great reformers after Luther. Reform was inevitable, given the condition of the RCC at the time. As far as I’m concerned Luther did the RCC a huge favor, and I think many *Catholic *theologians agree.

That Trent was needed, no Catholic will deny. That schism was needed, every Catholic should deny.
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1234 said:
It doesn’t matter what Luther would come back as.

He was a highly intelligent, principled, brave, motivated man who wrote good hymns, and was also rigid, angry, and difficult like many reformers have been throughout the ages.
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If *Luther **hadn’t started out objecting to indulgences and ended up launching the Reformation, someone else would have.

There were a host of great reformers after Luther. Reform was inevitable, given the condition of the RCC at the time. As far as I’m concerned Luther did the RCC a huge favor, and I think many *Catholic *theologians agree.

John Paul II even agreed with your last comment somewhat. Here is the link to what he worked on with Lutherans about 10 years ago. And for you detractors, it came from the Vatican, not some heretical, Protestant ape.
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