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think with your own mind, not what you have been led to think and trained to think. read Scripture.
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John 21 25 But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.
2 Thess. 2:15 - Paul clearly commands us in this verse to obey oral apostolic tradition. He says stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, either by word of mouth or letter. This verse proves that for apostolic authority, oral and written communications are on par with each other. Protestants must find a verse that voids this commandment to obey oral tradition elsewhere in the Bible, or they are not abiding by the teachings of Scripture.
2 Thess. 2:15 - in fact, it was this apostolic tradition that allowed the Church to select the Bible canon (apostolicity was determined from tradition). Since all the apostles were deceased at the time the canon was decided, the Church had to rely on the apostolic tradition of their successors. Hence, the Bible is an apostolic tradition of the Catholic Church. This also proves that oral tradition did not cease with the death of the last apostle. Other examples of apostolic tradition include the teachings on the Blessed Trinity, the hypostatic union (Jesus had a divine and human nature in one person), the filioque (that the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son), the assumption of Mary, and knowing that the Gospel of Matthew was written by Matthew.
scripturecatholic.com/oral_tradition.html
aish.com/literacy/concepts/The_Oral_Tradition.asp
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no actually I was catechised well as a cradle Catholic. Just because I don’t believe or agree with Catholicism doesn’t necessarily mean that I was poorly taught it or that I didn’t learn it well. And where did you get the sola scriptura thing from? If what you practice and believe to be true doesn’t square with Scripture, it certainly doesn’t mean that the one who believes it to be wrong is surely Sola Scriptura. Come on. This isn’t apologetics 101.
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SIA
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That is truly only your opinion and your belief. I was Catholic from the womb for three and a half decades. I was a well taught and sound practicing Catholic. No need to believe that I fell away just because.
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AliciaCL
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For me God made a huge contribution of His will through Luther.
What, is the big “contribution” Luther presumably made???
What, is the big “contribution” Luther presumably made???
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Montanism- , apocalyptic movement of the 2d cent. It arose in Phrygia (c.172) under the leadership of a certain Montanus and two female prophets, Prisca and Maximillia, whose entranced utterances were deemed oracles of the Holy Spirit. They had an immediate expectation of Judgment Day, and they encouraged ecstatic prophesying and strict asceticism. They believed that a Christian fallen from grace could never be redeemed. Prisca claimed that Christ had appeared to her in female form. When she was excommunicated, she exclaimed “I am driven away like the wolf from the sheep. I am no wolf: I am word and spirit and power.”
They believed that the prophecies of the Montanists superseded the doctrines proclaimed by the Apostles
Tertullian began to praise celibacy and condemn marriage excommunicated with the rest of the Montanists
The following of Tertullian cannot have been large; but a Tertullianist sect survived him and its remnants were reconciled to the Church by St. Augustine (Hær., lxxxvi). About 392-4
newadvent.org/cathen/10521a.htm
Major Anglican Group Prepares for Full Communion With Rome
virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3420
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dbacks5439
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Moderator, moderator, wherefore art thou moderator?
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estesbob
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If you want a moderator you should hit the little red triangle on the upper right of a post you find offensive.
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Cathdefender
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Thank you…I will pass this on to my friend.
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adstrinity
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I didn’t ask the question, but, I can only proffer a guess as to the line of reasoning. ‘If Luther left the Church, but he got married, either 1) He got married in a Catholic Church, 2) An Eastern Church, 3) He took some priest or somebody with him before he got married.’ Each one of these raises more questions, which would then cast doubts on one’s faith and knowledge. Fortunately the question has been answered that he did none of the above. (Secular Civil Ceremony would not have been one of my guesses; I just would not have reasoned that one out if this were my question.)
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I am greatful for what you offer of truth, i am not good schollar, could you please direct me to where i can study an unbiased source of Luthers life.
So far all i have seen has led me to the opinion Luther did not want to leave the Catholic faith and had been devout until he went to rome.
I must say your testimony that he recanted on some of his issues shows him as having some guidance of the spirit.
God will bless you for supporting him and testifying about him.
When we testify for people the sword is swung, it has two edges, one for the and one for us.
From repentance My Father can make as the sword was never swung, for Him all is possible.
I pray we all consider our positions with openness to the spirit so when we are judged it is by the standard of My Merciful God not mere men.
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From the beginning we see that God tries everything to bring man into obedience to Him.
throughout the history of Israel we see this happened.
man has not changed except as to become even more disobedient to this day.
the Parable of the wicked tenants is a good one for you to read.
after the coming of Jesus man still strugles to obey God.
we can see how the world acts today. sinfull actions all around us more than ever.
Jesus has done the ultimate sacrifice for us it is true. but how do we answer to that ultimate sacrifice today?
did we become more obedient to God? do we follow His teachings in Truth?
if Jesus built a Church to keep and teach all man all He commanded us to do, if you dissobey this Church how can you be sure you are in obedience to God?
dont tell you follow the Bible. that is what all claim to do.
*I should not believe the Gospel except as moved by the authority of the Catholic Church."
Saint Augustine (354-430), Against the Letter of Mani, 5,6, 397 A.D… *
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SIA
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how do you know he didn’t get it?? The criminal next to Jesus didn’t get it until the very end.
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wisdomseeker
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Do you think judas got it?
do you realize that was the beginning? the Church was not yet.
wouldnt you do the same thing if you were right there with Jesus? i hope you would.
Jesus went to be with the Father and His apostles commanded to teach and guide His sheeps. who are the sheeps? the people who are to be taught.
now if everyone can interpret the SS then there are no sheeps to
be taught because everyone can learn for themselves. correctly?
Now show me where in the Bible says that everyone can interpret SS for themselves please.
***“I should not believe the Gospel except as moved by the authority of the Catholic Church.”
Saint Augustine (354-430), Against the Letter of Mani, 5,6, 397 A.D… ***
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Auntie_M
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You know what they say…“Love is BLIND”
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