If Protestantism dies out totally.................

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A chicken in every pot.

A car in every garage.

A church in every heart.

Hey, that’s the American dream.

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Ahimsa
 
Count Chocula:
Will that prove that the Catholic church beyond ANY shadow of a doubt is the true church?
The church has already survived 400+ years of it so the church must have something good going for it right?
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This isn’t the first time something like this has happened. The Arian heresy led many of the Church astray in the 4th Century.
 
Well I will say this Protestantism it keeps on reinventing itslef the lastest craze as many have pointed out is non-denominational churches these churches and their theology are very very different than the Reformed churches of the Reformation. THose more ancinet bodies of Protestantism are dying out as every survey has mainline denoms as loosing vast amounts of members. But while prots don’t usually have loyalty to a particular denom anymore they do still identify them selves as Christians either nominally (like many catholics) or they enter a new church and these days the non-denom is that new church. So we see protestants moving away from mainline churches to non denominational church also very popular is the Pentacostal denom which is only about 100 years old American denom run mostly independently with a loose affiliation with the denom and Southern Baptist churches which are run independently of the denomination although they do have a loose affiliation.

But across the board it is a more independent brand of christiantiy that is charismatic in nature that is growing in protestantism. Very different than anything Luther would have envisioned. So we can look forward to more and more denominations with more and more indivualistic approaches to the christian faith. Ultimately this has to wake some people up that something broke. But then again its broken into 30,000 divisions now and most people don’t realize that something might be broke.
 
If Moses and the Exodus from Egypt teach us anything at all it is this: that the congregation of God’s people will always include some Protestants. Also see Matthew 13:24-30.

Even if all major Protestant denominations were to be inspired by the Holy Spirit and so moved to join the Roman Catholic Church, there would still likely be remaining Protestants within the Catholic Church. Cafeteria Catholics are Protestants to the extent that they deny some of the truths, teach others their views, do not even try to reconcile and do not pray to God or any Saints for help in their weakness.
 
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jmm08:
If Moses and the Exodus from Egypt teach us anything at all it is this: that the congregation of God’s people will always include some Protestants. Also see Matthew 13:24-30.

Even if all major Protestant denominations were to be inspired by the Holy Spirit and so moved to join the Roman Catholic Church, there would still likely be remaining Protestants within the Catholic Church. Cafeteria Catholics are Protestants to the extent that they deny some of the truths, teach others their views, do not even try to reconcile and do not pray to God or any Saints for help in their weakness.
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True the book of Jude warns of those who rebel at the church as those who rebelled against Moses.

**11 Woe to them! For they have gone (36) the way of Cain, and for pay they have rushed headlong into (37) the error of Balaam, and (38) perished in the rebellion of Korah.
12 These are the men who are hidden reefs (39) in your love feasts when they feast with you (40) without fear, caring for themselves; (41) clouds without water, (42) carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, (43) uprooted;
13 (44) wild waves of the sea, casting up (45) their own shame like foam; wandering stars, (46) for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever.
16 These are (51) grumblers, finding fault, (52) following after their own lusts; they speak (53) arrogantly, flattering people (54) for the sake of gaining an advantage.
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I don’t know the veracity of the news report, but, I just heard that aprox. 10,000 American Muslims converted to Christianity within the past year.

If we woke up next week and there were no more Protestants. I would have to assume they would become Catholics in spite of their silly protestations against the Pope, confession, purgatory and infant Baptism. I don’t see them turning Moslim. If next week all the Protestants were to disappear…whoof!..then we’d have some great buildings, gyms and kitchens to use.

I think it is Islam that we have to worry about this next hundred years, not Protestantism!
 
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Matt16_18:
The non-denominational craze occurring among the Protestants is sowing the seeds of the destruction of Protestantism. Each little non-denominational “church” is really nothing more than yet another new Protestant denomination. There is no such thing as a non-denom that is free from doctrine. Protestantism is doomed to continual fragmentation and division. Because of the non-denominational phenomena, we will soon have 100,000 new Protestant denominations in the world.
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Actually, if you consider the source of the “church”, you could say that the catholic church is the one which has splintered into all these denoms. 🙂 Because, after all, all the protestant churches are a break-away republic of catholic churches.
 
Count Chocula:
… kind of stuff and that if it outlasts it’s Protestant comp. (Lord knows in 400+ years it’s had PLENTY of time to fall yet hasn’t) it will prove it to be the right church right?
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Refer to #5 above. Besides, being the only game in town would only create apathy.
 
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Ahimsa:
A chicken in every pot.

A car in every garage.

A church in every heart.

Hey, that’s the American dream.

👍

Ahimsa
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:clapping: I loved this. by the way, love your username.
 
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Exporter:
I don’t know the veracity of the news report, but, I just heard that aprox. 10,000 American Muslims converted to Christianity within the past year.

If we woke up next week and there were no more Protestants. I would have to assume they would become Catholics in spite of their silly protestations against the Pope, confession, purgatory and infant Baptism. I don’t see them turning Moslim. If next week all the Protestants were to disappear…whoof!..then we’d have some great buildings, gyms and kitchens to use.

I think it is Islam that we have to worry about this next hundred years, not Protestantism!
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I guess you could always force us baptists to join you 🙂 . I’m not giving up my gymnasium! That’s where we hold youth camps and share the gospel of Jesus Christ with those who need it and shower them with love while we create an environment which is conducive to a sense of partnership and mutual adoration of Father God.
 
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Maccabees:
True the book of Jude warns of those who rebel at the church as those who rebelled against Moses.

11 Woe to them! For they have gone (36) the way of Cain, and for pay they have rushed headlong into (37) the error of Balaam, and (38) perished in the rebellion of Korah.
12 These are the men who are hidden reefs (39) in your love feasts when they feast with you (40) without fear, caring for themselves; (41) clouds without water, (42) carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, (43) uprooted;
13 (44) wild waves of the sea, casting up (45) their own shame like foam; wandering stars, (46) for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever.
16 These are (51) grumblers, finding fault, (52) following after their own lusts; they speak (53) arrogantly, flattering people (54) for the sake of gaining an advantage.
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:eek: Anybody have a punching bag for this guy? Lots of built up tension here.
 
Gottle of Geer said:
## Hmmm…that seems to amount to saying, that if something is unique, and sees off the “competition”, its survival give a proof of Divine approval of it.

Would that not mean, though, that if (say) all religions in Saudi Arabia - apart from Islam - died out, the sole survival of Islam would prove that it was Divinely approved ?

That would suggest, that religions which - at least on the face of it - seem to be incompatible with each other, are equally valid.

And suppose Christianity - for example - later returned to Saudi Arabia, after being extinct there; this would cause a headache or two: it would suggest, that two non-identical religions can be equally valid, in the same place, at the same time. I can’t see even the most generous-minded & large-hearted Muslim or Christian agreeing with that. I certainly can’t see the Magisterium agreeing, not in a billion years.

I don’t think one can reason from facts in history, to whatever theological significance they might have - if this is correct, the fact of a religion’s survival can’t be used as proof of its meaning in the mind of God. As evidence of what it may mean, perhaps - but not as proof of what it means. ##
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Bravo, mate!
 
ahimsaman72 said:
:eek: Anybody have a punching bag for this guy? Lots of built up tension here.
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It’s the Holy Scripture dude. you don’t like what it says take it up with the Holy Spirit and Saint Jude.
 
Good apologetics and broadcasts like ‘The Journey Home’ will help BUT it may seem like the story about the boy and the starfishes.

Remember the boy answered: “I can’t save all of them but there will be some that I can save.”

Every night, we should pray for our fallen away Catholics and our seperated Christian/Protestant brothers and sisters in Christ, so that they my have the eyes of their heart unclouded by doubt and agendas.

go with God!
Edwin
 
There is coming a day when all true believers will be gone. In the end, it’s not who remains, but who leaves. Bottom line, it’s not about Catholic vs. Protestant, but true, personal faith in the Person and work of Jesus Christ - “the Lord knows those who are His” (2 Tim. 2:19). Actually, within the context of the original question, if you win - you lose.
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ahimsaman72:
Actually, if you consider the source of the “church”, you could say that the catholic church is the one which has splintered into all these denoms. 🙂 Because, after all, all the protestant churches are a break-away republic of catholic churches.
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Interesting.

If what you say is true, then it is highly probable that in terms of number of adherents, each Protestant denomination would be nearly as large[or small] as the Catholic Church itself, instead of having one huge, worldwide Catholic Church, and alongside, tens of thousands of small, competing Protestant denominations.

Gerry 🙂
 
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Maccabees:
It’s the Holy Scripture dude. you don’t like what it says take it up with the Holy Spirit and Saint Jude.
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I love what Scripture says. It’s my guideline for my faith. I hate to see it mis-represented and mis-used for your agenda, that’s all.
 
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