If Roe v Wade is overturned, how do we respond to abortions

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Hi guys, this is an open-ended question. If Roe v Wade were to be overturned, how should the government / criminal justice system respond to abortions that are performed anyway?
 
Charge the people having them or the physicians giving them with murder. Yes, I do think women should be punished for MURDERING BABIES. I’m sick of biting my tongue.
 
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I doubt it will be overturned.
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One assumption is that in his own time, God always wins, and that includes having just laws.

Abortion has been normalized in the country for decades (over 600k deaths per year), and so that does lead to the question of what to do next.
 
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Hi guys, this is an open-ended question. If Roe v Wade were to be overturned, how should the government / criminal justice system respond to abortions that are performed anyway?
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You may consider this extreme, but I say criminal charges.

Because abortion is the murder of a human being, it is totally a crime against public order and deserves treatment under criminal law.
 
Well, first off, we need to understand that if Roe is overturned then abortion doesn’t become automatically illegal. It would go back to the States; some of which held abortion as legal prior to Roe making it a ‘right’.

So the question of how to handle it then goes to the States.

I personally am of the opinion that if an abortion is done by a person in my State, you take into account the state of the mother and tailor the judgement accordingly. The Abortionists goes to jail.

A 16 or 17 year old girl who is coerced or heavily influenced by boyfriends/peers/parents doesn’t share the same culpability in my mind as the person wielding the scalpel. An adult woman who does it with full knowledge and the ability to go elsewhere? That’s a different matter.
 
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As mentioned, if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the decision on abortion laws will go back to the states. Women will travel to states with legal abortions, and there won’t be any legal way to “respond” to abortion tourism. Women who cannot leave their home states will be able to acquire abortion pills and even over-the-phone counseling to follow through. There is no way that it’s realistic, practical, or even charitable to interrogate every woman who has a miscarriage. (And after learning Abby Johnson’s experience with RU-486, I can’t imagine any woman having to go through that horror. :cry:)

Pro-lifers - and I am vehemently pro-life - need to start thinking outside of the usual box. We’ve been trying this overturn-Roe thing for nearly 50 years. To paraphrase Dr. Phil, how’s that working for us? Maybe a new strategy is in order?
 
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Going by the recent SCOTUS decisions in support of legislating the LGBTQ lifestyle and illegal immigration , this is not going to happen.

The response should be how it is right now-prayer , charity and support for those in difficult situations. This will help making abortions unthinkable.
 
Ultimately, Roe overturned or not, we need to evangelize and change the culture, in order to stop abortion. I think we have made progress on that. But we have to keep going.

If we can get Roe overturned, then we have to change the culture of the States where it is still legal.
 
Assuming it became somehow illegal, not just back to the states: license suspension and fines for doctors that do it, fines and probation for those who perform them illegally, no penalty for women who procure them for themselves. Something like that, maybe not exactly that, is what I would think is fair. The fines wouldn’t be bank breaking and probation and suspensions short, no more than a year.
 
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Treat it as murder and conduct criminal investigations into everyone who worked at Planned Parenthood.
 
“Who worked at planned parenthood” ex post facto? Seems unjust.
 
Tell that to the Allies at Nuremberg. Planned Parenthood has made the Nazis look like mere pikers.
 
If RvW were overturned in a magical future, the laws would revert back to the individual States. You would have a variety of laws across the nation, there will still be legal abortion.
 
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Pro-lifers - and I am vehemently pro-life - need to start thinking outside of the usual box. We’ve been trying this overturn-Roe thing for nearly 50 years. To paraphrase Dr. Phil, how’s that working for us? Maybe a new strategy is in order?
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Amen.

What about making our community a place where no woman ever feels afraid or pressured into abortion. Where she knows that there will be kind support, medical, emotional, physical, monetary, for her through the pregnancy. That if she chooses to place a child for adoption, she is hailed as a hero. If she wishes to raise the child, there is a whole community wide support system.

If we each change our little corner of the world, imagine the possibilities!
 
I agree we need to start preparing for the day when Roe Vs Wade is overturned but that is going to involve a change in our country’s handling of single mothers and helping pregnant women out through the nine months and then afterward. I know alot of Americans will be opposed to supporting pregnant women by paying them to stay home but that’s what its going to take for now until we come up with a better solution.

Unfortunately, I think there will have to be a federal law that outlaws abortion altogether so that individual states can’t be the “goto” state for abortion. Abortion is wrong and it should be wrong in every state.
 
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Hi guys, this is an open-ended question. If Roe v Wade were to be overturned, how should the government / criminal justice system respond to abortions that are performed anyway?
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Great question. Important for any discussion of abortion.

How about capital punishment? If it is outlawed, how should we respond to those who have performed them in the past?
 
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Women who cannot leave their home states will be able to acquire abortion pills and even over-the-phone counseling to follow through. There is no way that it’s realistic, practical, or even charitable to interrogate every woman who has a miscarriage
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Yup. I wouldn’t want my doctors/family etc to start thinking that I murdered my child because of a miscarriage. Even worse if I vocally expressed that I wasn’t happy with the pregnancy.

Singapore won’t overturn abortion anytime soon. Nobody is even asking for it. Catholics here are taking a different approach by giving as much assistance as possible to pregnant women, but there comes a point where you need the government to step in and create an environment where people actually want to have babies in.

Unfortunately it seems like the people who would vote to imprison women for aborting aren’t the people who would vote for such government assistance. Unfortunately it seems like the people who would vote for such government assistance aren’t the people who are against abortion in the first place.
 
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Unfortunately it seems like the people who would vote to imprison women for aborting aren’t the people who would vote for such government assistance. Unfortunately it seems like the people who would vote for such government assistance aren’t the people who are against abortion in the first place.
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My conscience doesn’t sit well with the confiscatory taxation for government assistance when there are plenty of faith-based alternatives available. In fact most of the well-funded ones get government assistance of their own, so barring direct assistance, these mothers-to-be are still benefiting from federal funds and the confiscatory nature of taxation creating revenue streams for the programs.

It’s unfortunate when people are being taxed so heavily that they believe government assistance is preferable to donations to charities, which struggle and flounder, especially without government grants to keep them afloat.
 
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