If Roe v Wade is overturned, how do we respond to abortions

[Lea101]

My conscience doesn’t sit well with the confiscatory taxation for government assistance when there are plenty of faith-based alternatives available.

I believe we need both. I believe charities need to work on being more accessible as well, but that doesn’t mean the government should sit back and just point the finger to churches

I am currently attached to social services in my country, and we work with charities and I’ve called over a hundred families to discuss with them about their assistance. Most of these families tend to have large families here (think 5 or 6 children all under the age of 10). It’s apparent that relying on charitable donations simply isn’t enough or reliable at times.

Funding for planned parenthood should be used to help moms to be at least. Things that other countries have, like maternal leave should also be considered.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

blackforest:

Women who cannot leave their home states will be able to acquire abortion pills and even over-the-phone counseling to follow through. There is no way that it’s realistic, practical, or even charitable to interrogate every woman who has a miscarriage

Yup. I wouldn’t want my doctors/family etc to start thinking that I murdered my child because of a miscarriage. Even worse if I vocally expressed that I wasn’t happy with the pregnancy.

I can’t speak for Singapore, but I can tell you that in American society, for a woman to suggest that she’s not happy with the pregnancy, is as much of a social taboo as it is possible to have. Under the present state of affairs (i.e., abortion on demand at least through the first trimester), it is just assumed, as a social norm, that every woman who is pregnant, is happy, excited, “over the moon”, filled with giddy anticipation over the “upcoming arrival” of the little one (news flash — it’s already “here”, it’s just a matter of location vis-a-vis the uterus). If there is the thought of an unwanted pregnancy, having occurred by accident, “we can’t feed the ones we have as it is, how will we feed another one?”, it’s never spoken. The assumption, unless it is an unmarried girl or woman who has behaved very irresponsibly (i.e., no birth control), is that all pregnancies are wanted. And if they’re not, then it’s either a discreet visit to the abortion clinic, and no one is ever told, or it’s accepted as an “oops baby” and everybody is happy about it.

 

[Lea101]

I can’t speak for Singapore, but I can tell you that in American society, for a woman to suggest that she’s not happy with the pregnancy, is as much of a social taboo as it is possible to have. Under the present state of affairs (i.e., abortion on demand at least through the first trimester), it is just assumed, as a social norm, that every woman who is pregnant, is happy, excited, “over the moon”,

That makes sense. Abortion is available here and it’s not terribly expensive, but even while many non Christians aren’t morally against it…abortion is still somewhat a taboo topic. My friend is pregnant after some casual sex and she’s keeping the baby. When she announced it casually on social media, nobody congratulated her. Our responses were “omg, how are you holding up?”

I can only speak for my experience but it seems like there’s an expectation that not every pregnant woman is happily pregnant even though abortion has always been an option. That being said, the younger generation is pretty vocal about abortion and if you were to express unhappiness, it’s often followed with “so why are you keeping it”. So it looks like we’re heading your way.

 

[puer.dei]

You may consider this extreme, but I say criminal charges.

It’s entirely possible that not all states would make it a crime.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

HomeschoolDad:

I can’t speak for Singapore, but I can tell you that in American society, for a woman to suggest that she’s not happy with the pregnancy, is as much of a social taboo as it is possible to have. Under the present state of affairs (i.e., abortion on demand at least through the first trimester), it is just assumed, as a social norm, that every woman who is pregnant, is happy, excited, “over the moon”,

That makes sense. Abortion is available here and it’s not terribly expensive, but even while many non Christians aren’t morally against it…abortion is still somewhat a taboo topic. My friend is pregnant after some casual sex and she’s keeping the baby. When she announced it casually on social media, nobody congratulated her. Our responses were “omg, how are you holding up?”

I can only speak for my experience but it seems like there’s an expectation that not every pregnant woman is happily pregnant even though abortion has always been an option. That being said, the younger generation is pretty vocal about abortion and if you were to express unhappiness, it’s often followed with “so why are you keeping it”. So it looks like we’re heading your way.

In very large portions of American society — the entire American South would be one example — revealing your hardship or distress to others is much disliked. Everyone is expected to be chipper, “keep your sunny side up”, cheerful, and so on, and there is an undercurrent of "I don’t want to catch your ‘sad cooties’ ". In short, nobody wants to hear your problems.

In this kind of environment, the sentiment of “I really don’t want to have this baby, but I have to, because abortion is murder” would just be too depressing for anyone to hear, so it’s not voiced. I imagine that women who do feel this way, just put up a good front, and you never know how they really feel.

 

[Elf01]

In this kind of environment, the sentiment of “I really don’t want to have this baby, but I have to, because abortion is murder” would just be too depressing for anyone to hear, so it’s not voiced. I imagine that women who do feel this way, just put up a good front, and you never know how they really feel.

It’s a pity. If they talked to somebody they might be able to get help to make pregnancy/parenting easier. Also, the stories being public may encourage somebody not to have an abortion.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

HomeschoolDad:

In this kind of environment, the sentiment of “I really don’t want to have this baby, but I have to, because abortion is murder” would just be too depressing for anyone to hear, so it’s not voiced. I imagine that women who do feel this way, just put up a good front, and you never know how they really feel.

It’s a pity. If they talked to somebody they might be able to get help to make pregnancy/parenting easier. Also, the stories being public may encourage somebody not to have an abortion.

In immigrant communities, that don’t have American cultural presuppositions, this kind of frankness might be better received at face value. When my (“ex-”)wife first came to this country from Poland, she was saddened by the realization that Americans don’t want to hear your problems — in Poland, people are “there for each other” through good times and bad. There are also some corners of the United States where people are brutally honest with each other, and don’t see the point of “glossing things over” — Southerners observe this, and not always sympathetically, among many from points further north. In those cultural settings, “how you really feel” might be received better, or at least understood without judgment.

 

[Dobby]

It won’t be overturned.

There are thousands of living, breathing, already born children living in orphanages that could use Catholic help. We could focus on them.

 

[WingedHussar]

Ah yes, the old canard about interrogating every woman who has had a miscarriage. There are plenty of other ways to go about enforcing laws against murder, they just require the will to act.

 

[esieffe]

If RvW is overturned, we should take the money the government poured into infanticide and apply it to empowering woman to taking care of themselves and their children, with what ever services that entails, giving mother and child a chance at a hopeful and maybe even happy life.