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De_Maria
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You mean with the Incarnation and the Trinity?Hi
I humbly disagree with the above points.
All the mysteries? God Himself is a mystery. Or do you claim to know God. As I understand, Islam you can only explain what He is not. So why do you expect us to explain “all”.I have several times requested my friends here to kindly let us know all the mysteries of the Catholic faith:
But we have had a Divine revelation which we can authenticate in contrast to Islam which can’t be authenticated since it can only be traced to the claims of one man with no witnesses of what he saw.
Sure. The Incarnation:
- Authenticated by the Church with references
**The Incarnation
****ARTICLE 3
“HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY”
scborromeo.org/ccc/p122a3p1.htm#456
The Trinity
****ARTICLE I
“I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH”
scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p2.htm#232
**
2. with straight passages from the OTBible from where these has been formulated/originated
The Incarnation
Psalms 2
7 The Lord hath said to me: Thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee.
Isaias 9
6 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.
The Trinity
Genesis 1
26 And he said: Let us make man to our image and likeness: and let him have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and the beasts, and the whole earth, and every creeping creature that moveth upon the earth.
Genesis 18
1 And the Lord appeared to him in the vale of Mambre as he was sitting at the door of his tent, in the very heat of the day. 2 And when he had lifted up his eyes, there appeared to him three men standing near him: and as soon as he saw them he ran to meet them from the door of his tent, and adored down to the ground.
We, Catholics, are not a people of the book. Jesus Christ established a Church which is infallible and to whom we look for answers. I have given you references to the Catholic doctrines and proof texts from the OT Bible. That should suffice.
- with supportive reasons derived from the OTBible
.Irrational creeds? You are the one who believes the ravings of one lunatic who produced no support whatsoever for his claims.Such thoughts are, as far as I think, brain working of some theologians, not of Jesus, to give some sort of sanctity for these irrational creeds having no origination from OTBible
Lets compare doctrines and we will see who is irrational.
A new prophet. Isn’t Mohammed the seal of the Prophets? I wonder what orthodox Muslims think about your religion. Certainly you aren’t Shiite or Sunni, are you?The DivineGuide, the PromisedMessiah
Again, you are accepting a man’s testimony without evidence. The Crucifixion is a historical truth verifiable by eyewitness testimony.1835-1908 has explained away that Jesus did not die on Cross,
, by reading his book ‘Jesus in India’ this pillar is removed and all such creeds crumble down with logical reasons and arguments:which is the central pillar of all such creeds
alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/index.html
Kindly concentrate on this single point for solution of all so called Christian mysteries, which are in fact no more mysteries.Let us begin. You concentrate on this point. There were no witnesses to Mohammed’s discourse with an angel.
What, do you challenge us and then withdraw? I understand. At least you know your limitations.I am not a scholar, I am a sinful humble person, others could differ with me with reasons.
However I don’t withdraw my challenge. Prove that Mohammed saw an angel. Provide witnesses who saw the angel at the same time.
Sincerely,
De Maria