If the Catholic Church is wrong, which non-Catholic denomination is right?

[JRKH]

I respect your point of view. I am in the same place in my life. Why is it one Church has to be wrong for another to be right? We all see through a clouded glass. I believe the greatest sin a man can commit is to think he knows more than God. Love concures all evil in this world ( God so loved the world he gave his begotten Son). I feel all denominations are right for that person. John 14 states he send us the Holy Spirit to guide us, I could not agree with you more.It is the Holy Spirit that guides us all, if we trust in him, but if we do not have Love we are a banging gong and a clashing symbol.They will know we are Christian by our Love and not by our words.

The problem that we as memebers of the ancient and root Church have with the idea of Holy Spirit Guidance is not that it isn’t true, but rather that, without some kind of authoritative check, anyone can claim - and even believe - they are guided by the Holy Spirit and lead people into all sorts of erronious and even dangerous beliefs.
Just consider if Jim Jones followers thought that he was led by the Holy Spirit.
The function of the Church, by maintianing the living link from the ancient teachings down to today serves this function. It protects us from erronious teachings.

The Holy Spirit does indeed inspire each of us if we truly seek him, but dicerning between truth and error can be tricky - even in the Bible - without some outside help and training.

Peace
James

 

[racing59]

**I understand that Catholics believe that the teachings of the Church are infaliable. I respect your belief, but I do believe God uses other faiths as stepping stones to him.As far as Jim Jones being led by the Spirit, we all know the answer to that! Is that what Jesus did? No of course not! Decernment can be a tricky slop, that is why we are called to be dilligent in our prayer life. I have seen before, Pope John Paul II, I knew the moment I saw him that he was a Man of God! But I have also seen others I knew were Men of God and have no affeliaction with any Church. I can’t explain it, I just know it, just like a Catholic knows the Eucharist is real! I know that the Holy Spirit is real and guides me in my life! **

The problem that we as memebers of the ancient and root Church have with the idea of Holy Spirit Guidance is not that it isn’t true, but rather that, without some kind of authoritative check, anyone can claim - and even believe - they are guided by the Holy Spirit and lead people into all sorts of erronious and even dangerous beliefs.
Just consider if Jim Jones followers thought that he was led by the Holy Spirit.
The function of the Church, by maintianing the living link from the ancient teachings down to today serves this function. It protects us from erronious teachings.

The Holy Spirit does indeed inspire each of us if we truly seek him, but dicerning between truth and error can be tricky - even in the Bible - without some outside help and training.

Peace
James

 

[SD_Catholic]

**I understand that Catholics believe that the teachings of the Church are infaliable. **

There is much more to this statement than what is seen at face value… hopefully you understand the doctrine.

I would agree that religions could be used as stepping stones for Christians since some would never respond immediately to the teachings of the CC, but I feel that once a person realizes that God and Truth do exist, that they should continue in their search for the fullness of that Truth, instead of ending their journey with a church that makes them feel good. It’s not about serving God our way, it’s about serving him, his way… and I believe that is where faith starts to seperate itself.

SD

 

[why_me]

The lds church would be the right one. Protestantism seems like a man made business.

 

[racing59]

There is much more to this statement than what is seen at face value… hopefully you understand the doctrine.

I would agree that religions could be used as stepping stones for Christians since some would never respond immediately to the teachings of the CC, but I feel that once a person realizes that God and Truth do exist, that they should continue in their search for the fullness of that Truth, instead of ending their journey with a church that makes them feel good. It’s not about serving God our way, it’s about serving him, his way… and I believe that is where faith starts to seperate itself.

SD

Well I feel that we are headed in a direction of the same old debates on this site. RC believes it is in the Fullness of Truth, correct? So inturn if someone does not believe in the RC way they are not in the Fullness of Truth, correct? My faith is not about warm fussy feelings. My faith is based on Covenant Theology which is seeing the Bible in it’s entirety through Covenant eyes. I believe all Churches have a bit of the Truth. Were Why I have a difference from RC is on some things that have not yet been revealed to her. To me Covenants are The Fullness of Truth, you would call these Sacraments. Were I differ from RC is I have been told there are no Sacraments in Heaven, there is no need for them. This bothers me because why is it the Covenant with Noah, the rainbow is around the thrown of God? Rev.4 Why is the Lamb as though he is slain in Heaven? Rev.5:5 What about the Wedding Fest of the Lamb in Rev.19, sounds like the Mass to me. The Tree of Life is all through the Bible from Gen.2:9 -Rev.22:14 and we now have the right to eat from “The Tree of Life” and it’s leaves are medicine for the nations once a month. Sounds like the Eucharist to me. I have yet to find any of this in RC doctrine. Covenants are everything to me, they are my Fullness of Truth. No disrespect intended, just a difference of opinion.
Peace be with you!

 

[SD_Catholic]

Well I feel that we are headed in a direction of the same old debates on this site. RC believes it is in the Fullness of Truth, correct? So inturn if someone does not believe in the RC way they are not in the Fullness of Truth, correct? My faith is not about warm fussy feelings. My faith is based on Covenant Theology which is seeing the Bible in it’s entirety through Covenant eyes. I believe all Churches have a bit of the Truth. Were Why I have a difference from RC is on some things that have not yet been revealed to her. To me Covenants are The Fullness of Truth, you would call these Sacraments. Were I differ from RC is I have been told there are no Sacraments in Heaven, there is no need for them. This bothers me because why is it the Covenant with Noah, the rainbow is around the thrown of God? Rev.4 Why is the Lamb as though he is slain in Heaven? Rev.5:5 What about the Wedding Fest of the Lamb in Rev.19, sounds like the Mass to me. The Tree of Life is all through the Bible from Gen.2:9 -Rev.22:14 and we now have the right to eat from “The Tree of Life” and it’s leaves are medicine for the nations once a month. Sounds like the Eucharist to me. I have yet to find any of this in RC doctrine. Covenants are everything to me, they are my Fullness of Truth. No disrespect intended, just a difference of opinion.
Peace be with you!

And also with you

Hmmm… perhaps you might continue studying Catholic doctrine then (have you searched Catholic sources for these specific questions?)… I’m sure those questions are answered somewhere (Covenant Theology is a huge part of Catholic doctrine)… I’ve not personaly felt a need to dive into those particular things yet… So I’m sorry that I’m not qualified to answer each of those questions specifically, but as far as I understand it a version of the Mass is what takes place in Heaven, with one big difference… you can be sure that nobody there is a hypocrite

The Angels singing, “Holy, Holy, Holy” comes to mind.

SD

 

[sympathy07]

In my opinion Catholic church is not wrong because these churches give us good teachings.

 

[JRKH]

Well I feel that we are headed in a direction of the same old debates on this site. RC believes it is in the Fullness of Truth, correct? So inturn if someone does not believe in the RC way they are not in the Fullness of Truth, correct?

This is a correct statement.

My faith is not about warm fussy feelings. My faith is based on Covenant Theology which is seeing the Bible in it’s entirety through Covenant eyes. I believe all Churches have a bit of the Truth.

While I would not include the term “All Churches”, what you asy here is essentially true and is supported by the teachings of the RC Church. The issue is that while maost contain some truth, the fullness is found only in one.

Were Why I have a difference from RC is on some things that have not yet been revealed to her. To me Covenants are The Fullness of Truth, you would call these Sacraments.
Were I differ from RC is I have been told there are no Sacraments in Heaven, there is no need for them. This bothers me because why is it the Covenant with Noah, the rainbow is around the thrown of God? Rev.4 Why is the Lamb as though he is slain in Heaven? Rev.5:5 What about the Wedding Fest of the Lamb in Rev.19, sounds like the Mass to me. The Tree of Life is all through the Bible from Gen.2:9 -Rev.22:14 and we now have the right to eat from “The Tree of Life” and it’s leaves are medicine for the nations once a month. Sounds like the Eucharist to me. I have yet to find any of this in RC doctrine. Covenants are everything to me, they are my Fullness of Truth. No disrespect intended, just a difference of opinion.
Peace be with you!

As others have said, please keep studying. Sometimes differences boil down to simply a difference in how different groups use terminology. The underlying ideas are the some but how we express it is different.

Peace
James

 

[w_stewart]

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