If the Multiverse exists

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and there really are copies of us in higher dimensions, as scientists now sometimes propose, was Jesus there too? I’ve heard there is only ONE Incarnation, so how can these be reconciled?
 
This is simply a theory in science which has not and probably will never be proven. What does the Church say? The Church has no view on this so a Catholic is free to decide on this matter. There is only one incarnation, indeed. So how God would deal with sin in these other universes if they exist is unknown to us.
 
If the Multiverse exists, sin would still be covered by the one eternal Sacrifice of Christ Jesus. Jesus is our “one mediator between God and man”, as Scripture states. He connects us to the Divine Life, of the Eternal God, who is outside of time, yet in it by the Incarnation of Jesus.
As for the existence of parallel universes, I don’t think there is any real indication that there would be “copies” of us. I would think it more likely that these would be other dimensions that are influenced by our choices. Some day we may also be permitted to see how our choices have affected our own lives and those of others. Maybe…?
 
… Then you would need a multi multiverse to explain the multiverse. And then a multi mult multiverse to explain the multi multiverse. Ad infinitum.

Reminds me of the story I heard awhile back. A professor was giving a class on cosmology for the public. An elderly lady listened to the lecture. When it was over she stood up and said, “What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise.” The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, “What is the tortoise standing on?” “You’re very clever, young man, very clever,” said the old lady. “But it’s turtles all the way down!”
 
The multiverse and the mirror.

Every morning when Joe got up he went into his bathroom, looked in his mirror and greeted all his neighbours." Hello Bob, Jim, Jackson, Zulu, Tom, Hank,… ". How come you may ask were so many people in Joe’s bathroom? . Yes, Joe had a 3 way mirror. He named each of his reflections. Joe had multiverse friends in his mirror. Now you know the rest of the story.
 
I think the multiverse hypothesis is absolutely ridiculous. If there is a multiverse, then I guess God chose this universe to be incarnated in. He probably would go into to the other universes to preach in.
 
Layp3rs0n said:
and there really are copies of us in higher dimensions, as scientists now sometimes propose, was Jesus there too? I’ve heard there is only ONE Incarnation, so how can these be reconciled?
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there may be a multiverse, but there will not be copies of us in another dimension. It is possible that there are creatures more intelligent than man out there, but I doubt that we would know about it in our lifetimes.
 
I’d wait for evidence that the multiverse exists before I would philosophize about it.

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Layp3rs0n said:
and there really are copies of us in higher dimensions, as scientists now sometimes propose, was Jesus there too? I’ve heard there is only ONE Incarnation, so how can these be reconciled?
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… a mighty far-fetched “If”! 🤷

If the multiverse exists, there has to be a real Santa Claus somewhere. 😉
 
The multiverse is essentially the one true God orienting us to His orientation.
 
thephilosopher6 said:
This is simply a theory in science which has not and probably will never be proven. What does the Church say? The Church has no view on this so a Catholic is free to decide on this matter. There is only one incarnation, indeed. So how God would deal with sin in these other universes if they exist is unknown to us.
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It’s not a scientific theory. It’s simply a conjecture. Theories are based on repeated testing and studies and meant to explain natural phenomena.

For example, the best tests of the Theory of Evolution deal with studying bacteria and other single-celled organisms, which can go through thousands or even millions of generations within weeks and/or months. Why? Because observing changes and speciation in most multicellular organisms would take lifetimes. Einstein’s theories of relativity have held up through observation and testing, etc.

There is no way to test to see if a multiverse exists, especially, as is often claimed by scientists, that every decision a person makes creates new universes, where each possibility that could happen is represented in a universe.
 
Higher dimensions are likely where spiritual bodies and the like reside, but they do not per se imply that alternate “copies” of the world exist.

Put it this way. The surface of this world is two dimensional (which is why it can be mapped). The world, or cosmos, has three or more dimensions. But there is no alternate world surface.

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Layp3rs0n said:
and there really are copies of us in higher dimensions, as scientists now sometimes propose, was Jesus there too? I’ve heard there is only ONE Incarnation, so how can these be reconciled?
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God exists out of space and time, so there would be only one Word (Jesus) even if the created world had multiple universes.

On the other hand, a multiverse would allow for an interesting form of universalism: given a potentially infinite number of universes (something that string theory comes close to permitting), then for a given person X, there would probably be at least one universe where X did not choose to be damned by rejecting God’s offer of salvation. Extending this argument, “all men” could be saved (1 Tim. 2: 4) in the sense that a version of “each man” would be saved, but there would be many more (given the multitude of universes in which X rejects salvation) who would occupy Hell (thus reconciling 1 Tim. 2: 4 with Christ’s own words about the fewness of the saved). 😉
 
I’ve thought about this.
I’ve tried to reconcile the idea of copies of us with Christian Theology.
For one, thing, just think about every decision you make going back generations which your ancestors made resulting in YOU even being born.
IF I had stayed out West and not moved to a new state with a new job, I would have never met my husband and had my 2 children. Maybe I would have had other kids, maybe I would have had no kids, but these unique two I have now would not exist.
IF my Dad had not married my Mother and married someone else, and just keep going back generations with this.
That’s why I don’t think there are copies of us elsewhere unless going back to the beginning of time every decision ever made was copied in that other universe.
Now having said that, I do believe there could be other Universes, created by God, that co-exist or existed ahead of us or behind us, other dimensions if you will.
Perhaps that’s where Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, ect. are.
Maybe we are the FIRST universe, and then there will be a new one after us, ect.(sequential) Or maybe there is one where exists other intelligent life, God is managing that one, too.
Secondly, we have souls, so if there are multiple copies of “You” does each one have a soul that can be redeemed or damned? or is does one soul go across copies.
As a Sci Fi fan I have seen shows about mirror image universes (Evil Kirk and Spock)
Copies of people (Stargate SG1, ect.) maybe an alternate timeline.
Interesting thoughts, but how to reconcile with the Bible?
 
Layp3rs0n said:
and there really are copies of us in higher dimensions, as scientists now sometimes propose, was Jesus there too? I’ve heard there is only ONE Incarnation, so how can these be reconciled?
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I don’t have to reconcile it because it doesn’t exist. But for the sake of argument God can be in more than one universe at a time. How he deals with other universes may be different since they are different.
 
RPRPsych said:
God exists out of space and time
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I think that this is partly true. But IMHO, God also exists in time. For example, God exists and is present in the Eucharist. And God was walking around in a garden on earth thousands of years before Jesus was on earth.
 
Tomdstone said:
I think that this is partly true. But IMHO, God also exists in time. For example, God exists and is present in the Eucharist. And God was walking around in a garden on earth thousands of years before Jesus was on earth.
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God, in His goodness, can make Himself present to men, as in the Eucharist. However, “walking around in Eden” is considered an anthropomorphism even by conservative Biblical scholars, just like “the finger of God”.
 
RPRPsych said:
God, in His goodness, can make Himself present to men, as in the Eucharist. However, “walking around in Eden” is considered an anthropomorphism even by conservative Biblical scholars, just like “the finger of God”.
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So the Bible is wrong and God was not walking around in a garden? I think you’re in trouble if you start taking the Bible metaphorically.
 
If there is intelligent life on other planets in any universe, assuming there are other universes, I doubt there is any race of beings absolutely identical to our human race, just as no human being on Earth is completely identical to another one.

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