If the Orthodox and Catholics unite,would the church be called the Orthodox or Catholic church?

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The Orthodox will never agree to the idea of a bureaucraticized Church where their affairs get micromanaged by the Congregation for Oriental Churches.

Speaking as an Eastern Catholic, my opinion is that Eastern Catholics belong to a hybrid Church that bears little similarity to the pre-schism Eastern Churches.
 
JohnRoss said:
The Orthodox will never agree to the idea of a bureaucraticized Church where their affairs get micromanaged by the Congregation for Oriental Churches.

Speaking as an Eastern Catholic, my opinion is that Eastern Catholics belong to a hybrid Church that bears little similarity to the pre-schism Eastern Churches.
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I don’t think that’s a problem. I highly doubt the Congregation for Oriental Churches would continue to exist in the form as we understand it now, and it’s much less likely that we’re even planning to have the Eastern Orthodox under a Roman bureaucracy, if at all. The Holy See has little interest in it… They don’t want to micromanage other rites and particular churches. 🙂
 
Filii_Dei said:
I highly doubt the Congregation for Oriental Churches would continue to exist in the form as we understand it now, and it’s much less likely that we’re even planning to have the Eastern Orthodox under a Roman bureaucracy, if at all. The Holy See has little interest in it… They don’t want to micromanage other rites and particular churches. 🙂
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What exactly is does the Congregation for Oriental Churches do in the present?
 
I say we just be called, “The Original Christian Church, est. Pentecost 33AD”
 
I would imagine that both Churches would retain their normal names and continue to run their affairs independently but that crossing over between communions would be acceptable if it was necessary while still being preferable to remain with one’s own normal denomination.

As regards papal primacy, well if that sticking point is ever overcome, perhaps it would be on the basis of joint ecumenical councils where the normal chairman would be expected to be the Roman Pontiff.

I don’t see ‘uniting’ ever being a case of the two churches being subsumed into one greater one. It need only ever be the resolution of differences to the extent that the two churches recognise the equality of each other’s holy orders and where communion with one another is equal. The Orthodox do, after all, possess valid orders through apostolic succession, do they not? What should matter is that both Churches iron out their differences, recognise each other and put aside historical animosity in favour of permanent friendship under the same Lord and Saviour.
 
The Unified Church?
The East and West Church?
The Global Church?
The Great Church?
The Catholic Orthodox Church?
The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church?

…I’m out of ideas. :o
 
The_Scott said:
The Unified Church?
The East and West Church?
The Global Church?
The Great Church?
The Catholic Orthodox Church?
The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church?

…I’m out of ideas. :o
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The Catholic Orthodox Church 👍
 
How about if we call the new church the -

** Latin Papal Gregorian Roman Western Italian Irish New Calenderist Eastern Greek Russian Hellienic Serbian Antiochean Alexandrian Jacobite Syrianite Armenian Coptic Bulgarian Ukranian Old Julian Calenderest Orthodox Catholic Christian Church**
 
Paul_theApostle said:
How about if we call the new church the -

** Latin Papal Gregorian Roman Western Italian Irish New Calenderist Eastern Greek Russian Hellienic Serbian Antiochean Alexandrian Jacobite Syrianite Armenian Coptic Bulgarian Ukranian Old Julian Calenderest Orthodox Catholic Christian Church**
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Don’t forget the, “who loves Jesus Christ and has a personal relationship with Him and accepts Him as the personal Lord and savior.” 👍
 
Paul_theApostle said:
How about if we call the new church the -

** Latin Papal Gregorian Roman Western Italian Irish New Calenderist Eastern Greek Russian Hellienic Serbian Antiochean Alexandrian Jacobite Syrianite Armenian Coptic Bulgarian Ukranian Old Julian Calenderest Orthodox Catholic Christian Church**
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You forgot Maronite Melkite Albanian Chaldean Ethiopian Slovak Hungarian Romanian Ruthenian! :mad:
 
Paul_theApostle said:
How about if we call the new church the -

** Latin Papal Gregorian Roman Western Italian Irish New Calenderist Eastern Greek Russian Hellienic Serbian Antiochean Alexandrian Jacobite Syrianite Armenian Coptic Bulgarian Ukranian Old Julian Calenderest Orthodox Catholic Christian Church**
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How about Polish Swiss German Hungarian Czech Jewish and a bunch of other nations. Why not call it the Universal Church? :D:D:D:D:D:p;)
 
How about just “The Catholic Church”, seeing as that was it’s name sense the dawn of the Early Church? Orthodox describes it’s true belief.
 
I like Catholic Orthodox. Orthodox Catholic sounds like a rite. We could always use “O Drómos” (It’s Greek for The Way).
 
The Universal Church?

Just in case we find evidence of little green men on a distant star somewhere… 😉
 
Thomas_Francis said:
I like Catholic Orthodox. Orthodox Catholic sounds like a rite. We could always use “O Drómos” (It’s Greek for The Way).
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Unfortunately, “Catholic Orthodox” has a negative connotation in the East in connection with RC proselytism etc. It suggests a “more complete” form of Orthodoxy, one that is “Catholic” (read “Latin Catholic”). It is a “no-go.”

The term “Orthodox Catholic” is one that was in vogue during the time of the undivided Church where “Orthodox” referred to the Faith and “Catholic” referred to the Eucharistic model of the Church.

Both RC and EO use “Orthodox Catholic” in different versions today. A reunited Church would definitely be “Catholic” confessing the “Orthodox” faith.

Also, in the Slavonic version, “Catholic” is spelled with an “f” for the “th” to indicate the Orthodox Church, whereas Latin Catholics are referred to as Catholic spelled with a “t” for the “th.” So even the spelling of “Catholic” is differenced to indicate whether one is Orthodox or Roman Catholic.

The only left to do is for RC’s to get used to reciting the Nicene Creed without the Filioque . . . 😉

Alex
 
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