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Roman_Army
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Are you serious? lol, that’s NUTS! Now that’s extreme! This liturgical abuse stuff does get me a bit upset. I wish the USCCB would address all this.
If the priest goes down the pews shaking hands, is that liturgical abuse?
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Are you serious? lol, that’s NUTS! Now that’s extreme! This liturgical abuse stuff does get me a bit upset. I wish the USCCB would address all this.
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Roman_Army
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Thanks guys for all your responses. I enjoyed them all. I’m not going to bother sending letters to every parish in my city to correct their errors. I think it’s better writing to the Bishop to address it and bring it up to the USCCB.
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rayne89
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Roman_Army said:
Oh there was all kinds of interesting stuff. One thing I have never witnessed before after the gospel reading no one said Praise to You, Lord Jesus Christ -they just said Alleluia instead. It maybe allowable, I don’t know -but it was just weird to me.
I tried to recieve on the tongue and completely baffled the EMHC. I ended up recieving in the hand because he looked like he didn’t know what to do. No kneelers, no crucifix instead a cross with and odd depiction of Jesus with geometric shapes flat on a wooden cross. No tabernacle on the alter -in a chapel at the back corner of the church instead. Alter in the center of the church, while the chairs surrounded it. Alter servers wearing flip flops - one with giant white puffy flowers over her toes. I could go on but I’ll stop now. I told my hubby things like that make me appreciate our own parish even more.
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Michael_Welter
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Hmmm . . . sounds like St. Peter’s Basilica. While we may not be used to these things, they are allowed.
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hilde_the_dog
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I am sorry but priests who shake hands and and give sermons (not homily’s). They are working the crowd - why not broadcast it and call it televangelism. Even my parents P church won’t do all that stuff.
The word of the Lord is to be given to the people properly and with respect - and to me that’s a Priest giving a Homily and kissing the lectionary after reading the gospel while on the ambo not a pulpit (I’m nipicking, so is the “Our Father” vs. The Lord’s prayer, “Glory Be” vs. the Doxology, techicalities do matter). I don’t know maybe if only fifty people were there it might be okay for a homily but I prefer it up where it should be. Look up to GOD
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MrS
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Michael Welter:
don’t be so silly… of course there is a difference between the “normal” parish church and a basilica or cathedral where tourists are in abundance, and reverence for the tabernacle mandates an alternative placement.
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Roman_Army
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Michael Welter:
St. Peter’s Basilica does not have the altar in the middle of the Basilica with the chairs surrounding. It is in the back of the basilica. The only chairs surrounding the altar are the celebrants’ and servers’ chairs. The placement of the tabernacle to another side chapel is so that the true faithful can adore it without the constant camera flashes and annoying chatter from tourists.
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Podo2005
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Roman_Army said:Hello again,
**Well I just mailed the letter anonymously on that other liturgical abuse that I witnessed in my own parish. Now, I noticed that in another parish near me, during the sign of peace both the priest and deacon goes down the pews to shake people’s hands. Now, I was wondering if that constitutes liturgical abuse or could that be part of the sign of peace? Personally, I think it makes the clerics look like celebrities. But, at the same time it does seem friendly.**
It’s allowed…
It’s definately friendly…
and it’s part of the sign of peace…
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rayne89
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catholicliturgy.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/LawText/Index/6/SubIndex/97/LawIndex/39
Sign of Peace
http://www.catholicliturgy.com/images/q.gif Is it permissible for the priest and deacon to leave the altar during the sign of peace to go and shake hands with some of the congregation? http://www.catholicliturgy.com/images/a.gif According to the Sacramentary: The priest, extending and joining his hands, adds:
The peace of the Lord be with you always.
The people answer:
And also with you.
Then the deacon (or the priest) may add:
Let us offer each other the sign of peace.
All make an appropriate sign of peace, according to local custom.
The priest gives the sign of peace to the deacon or minister.
Therefore, the priest and deacon do not leave the altar. To do so is an addition to the Mass not allowed for in the rubrics.
Also, the priest has just given a sign of peace (through his words “The peace of the Lord be with you always.”) To do so again would be redundant.
Sorry you are mistaken it is NOT allowed
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otm
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the rules from Rome allow placement in a number of areas of the church, including in a chapel off the main body of the church. It is discretionary.
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otm
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rayne89 said:
Actually, if you read the GIRM, it does appear to be allowed in limited circumstances, such as at a funeral, or when there is a visiting dignatary; it is, however, limited to them (the dignatary or in the case of a funeral, immediate family). It is, however, limited to those specifics.
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rayne89
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Thank you for the correction, I wasn’t aware of that.
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didymus
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My parish does this & I was at first quite surprised by it, also the congregation circulate to greet each other and the ushers (who function as greeters as well) work the aisles too.
OTOH, they do all this after the petitions follwing the sermon, rather than the Lord’s Prayer, as normally done. On the positive side I have to say this is a lot friendlier than your average Catholic parish.
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