If the US Bishop were to change the Liturgy and what Bible translation would you like them to use?

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If the US Bishop were to change the Liturgy of the Word, and what Bible translation would you like them to use?

This is a poll. Explain your answer if you wish to discuss this. I would favor that the Readings should be base out of the Catholic Bible Revised Standard Version Second Catholic Edition. It doesn’t have the thou and thee, or the thy. So it’s easy to read.
 
RSV-CE 2nd Edition.

Mostly because this is the only version of the Bible that has been approved for use at Mass without any changes.

Every other English version (including the NAB) had to be corrected before it could be used.

As my second choice, the Douay-Rheims. This hasn’t been presented yet for use as a Lectionary, but I would like to see it. It gets points for poetic reading 👍
 
Brendan said:
RSV-CE 2nd Edition.

Mostly because this is the only version of the Bible that has been approved for use at Mass without any changes.

Every other English version (including the NAB) had to be corrected before it could be used.

As my second choice, the Douay-Rheims. This hasn’t been presented yet for use as a Lectionary, but I would like to see it. It gets points for poetic reading 👍
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I didn’t put Douay Rheims Bible because I don’t think most Catholics wouldn’t be able to grasp the words like, thou, thy, art, thee, and other terms we no longer use. I would recommend DR-Bible for private reading.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
I didn’t put Douay Rheims Bible because I don’t think most Catholics wouldn’t be able to grasp the words like, thou, thy, art, thee, and other terms we no longer use. I would recommend DR-Bible for private reading.
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I was a child when I grasped those words.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
If the US Bishop were to change the Liturgy of the Word, and what Bible translation would you like them to use?

This is a poll. Explain your answer if you wish to discuss this. I would favor that the Readings should be base out of the Catholic Bible Revised Standard Version Second Catholic Edition. It doesn’t have the thou and thee, or the thy. So it’s easy to read.
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The Douay!
 
The Douay does not fit the requirements of Liturgiam Authenticam.

At present there is only one Bible suitable for use in the Lectionary, and that’s the RSV Second Catholic Edition.
 
NewUlm1976_2000 said:
Keep the current one, no problems with that one.
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There are little problems with the current Lectionary, but there are major problems with the underlying Bible translation (1991 NAB). The NAB as it is is unusable for liturgy, and Rome had to alter some texts.

The RSV-2CE, on the other hand, is the ONLY Bible translation that has received approval from Rome for Lectionary use unaltered. Unfortunately, only one Episcopal Conference has adopted it, and it’s not the USCCB.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
I didn’t put Douay Rheims Bible because I don’t think most Catholics wouldn’t be able to grasp the words like, thou, thy, art, thee, and other terms we no longer use. I would recommend DR-Bible for private reading.
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I find that a common thread among those in positions of translation. It boils down to something like: Americans are too stupid to understand _________. Thou, thy, art, and similar words can be grasped by regular Catholics and they are. We use them every week (at least) in the Our Father (who ART in Heaven, hallowed by THY name…). People understand that at least on the level of understanding the words.

I would like to hear such words because it sets up the readings and prayers (in a very small way) as something different and special. Something sacred. I voted for the RSV-CC. It seems to strike a reasonable balance between readability and beauty.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
I didn’t put Douay Rheims Bible because I don’t think most Catholics wouldn’t be able to grasp the words like, thou, thy, art, thee, and other terms we no longer use. I would recommend DR-Bible for private reading.
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The language and means of the words used in the DR tend to remain the same. The terms you mentioned are used in classic literature also. Maybe we should start using some of these terms again.
 
I am among those who would like to see a return to the Douay-Rheims. Barring that, the RSV-CE 2nd Edition (Since that’s the English version the Holy See uses).
 
StatCrux said:
I find that a common thread among those in positions of translation. It boils down to something like: Americans are too stupid to understand _________. Thou, thy, art, and similar words can be grasped by regular Catholics and they are. We use them every week (at least) in the Our Father (who ART in Heaven, hallowed by THY name…). People understand that at least on the level of understanding the words.

I would like to hear such words because it sets up the readings and prayers (in a very small way) as something different and special. Something sacred. I voted for the RSV-CC. It seems to strike a reasonable balance between readability and beauty.
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Most of the young people don’t. If young Catholics who have a zeal for their faith, and all of sudden they are force to read a Shakepearean type language, they will find it very difficult to grasps. As much as I love the DR Bible Translation, I don’t think it would be good for lectionary.

The DR Bible was written in around 1608-1609. People then would probably understand it. I think the RSV-CE is the best translation we got when you want the community to understand Scripture in the modern sense. Realistically, most people don’t.

When I read parts of RSV Bible which has the thou, art, thy, in the RCIA class. They were like? Is that the King James Bible? I said, no. It’s RSV Catholic Bible. The person who ask the question was in his forties.

I know there are Catholics who are DR Onlyism, like the Protestant version of King James Onlyism.

I’m not a DR Onlyism…

Second, the RSV-CE has been recommended by Scholars. Even Catholic Answers suggest it because it’s easy to read. I pick it over the NAB.

I also think the DR has an error or mistranslation in its translation of Genesis 3:15.

Which states,
I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

In most current, Catholic translation. The RSV-CE has it written as:

“I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her see; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.”

The footnote of RSV-CE states,

The Latin Vulgate has the reading ipsa conteret, she shall bruise Some Old Latin manuscripts have this reading, and it occurs also in St. Augustine, De Genesi contra Manichaeos, II, which is earlier than St. Jerome’s translation. It could be due originally to a copyist’s mistake, which was then seen to contain a genuine, meaning…"
 
mtr01 said:
I am among those who would like to see a return to the Douay-Rheims. Barring that, the RSV-CE 2nd Edition (Since that’s the English version the Holy See uses).
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The Holy See uses it and so should we.
 
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