If there is life elsewhere, in another universe

[StrawberryJam]

We tend, being anthropomorphic creatures and narrow minded ones at that, to believe that “life” means forms. It includes forms, the higher forms generally incorporating and transcending the lower, especially in the modes of awareness available. Most humans seem to use one, and that, poorly. But at the quantum level one can’t tell what’s “alive” and what’s not. In fact LIFE is the pressure of the ALLNESS of God fulfilling itself as the self observed manifestation of Universe(s) or Creation as experience.

There is a reason that there is a crucifixion story, a very good one, but it is not congruent with the exoteric interpretation of the Church, which imho is off base with it. This goes as well for the story of The Light Bearer and the alleged Fall. Ask yourself: “Where do I perceive the crucifixion? Where is it for me?” It might be a useful koan for you.

These are questions I never asked and are very useful to me to ask myself.

Thank you Tuno

 

[Neithan]

I have never been given an answer to that question.

So I am still begging you all to do that.

Eh? But what are you asking? You seem to be assuming…

Dogma could only place us in such a position (above) if it was false, and therefore not dogma.

Are you asserting it’s best to be uncertain?
Can you be certain about that?

 

[tonyrey]

tonyrey

Many things that happen to us are impersonal because we live in an impersonal world and are subject to impersonal laws of nature. We usually die as the result of impersonal causes. But is that a complete description of life? Are we just cogs in an impersonal machine?

We are not just bodies but persons who are more than biological machines. Our inner life is far more significant than physical events because physical events do not explain why they exist or why we exist. We can control and change ourselves and our environment. What we make of life depends on ourselves and not on physical events. We can choose to be positive or negative - to live in heaven or hell now, not in a distant future.

That is why we are affected by the Death and Resurrection of Jesus because He uplifted us by being uplifted on the Cross and glorified as a result of His love. He not only showed us the way to heaven but He is the Way. If we identify ourselves with Him as He identified Himself with us we share His life in heaven - not only when we die but now on earth. That is the reason men and women have been capable of astonishing feats of courage and endurance in the face of evil and injustice. Love is the greatest power there is and it can transform us even if we are unaware it exists. It only remains for us to love others as He loves us: when we love others we are united to Him and nothing can ever separate us…We don’t have and can not pretend to know what a complete description of life really is.*

That is why it is best not to be in a position where you can not be open to new evidence. We don’t have and can not pretend to know what a complete description of life really is.
That is why it is best not to be in a position where you can not be open to new evidence.

You are right but that does not affect the cogency of my explanation…