If there were no God

[Bradskii]

Now I’m three beers down and still no figures for our unafflliated chums. I can see me finishing the six pack and starting on the Cuban rum, cooking and eating dinner with that nice Rioja I bought yesterday and there’ll still be nothing to report.

Guess it was just smoke.

 

[Sophia]

And your other world scenario just seems to be removing most of one’s free will. Even the will to compete. I’m rejecting that outright.

The solution of heaven is supposed to be the “best thing since sliced bread”. Whether there will be any free will left, is unknown. Maybe it is just sitting is a circle, with saliva dripping on our cheeks… who knows. But it still assumed to be the best thing.

As for the Gaia arrangement, your free will is not constrained. Your free will today allows you to make a good steak out of your grandchildren… however your desire is missing. Just like your liver does not wish to compete with your lung. As such it would solve the problem of evil - in a general fashion.

 

[PickyPicky]

I’d go easy on the rum.

I’ve just had my evening meal, and a very pleasant glass or two of Burgundy to go with it. Tomorrow I’m off for a chat with my surgeon (thank you, National Health Service) about my upcoming cancer op. I’m not feeling in the least suicidal, and if I get to a foxhole I’ll report back on whether I’m still an atheist.

Meanwhile I’ve had a splendid day with my splendid wife. And it was really a very pleasant Burgundy.

 

[laylow]

I’m going to get another beer while you do that.

What kind of beer are you drinking these days?

 

[Bradskii]

Bradskii:

I’m going to get another beer while you do that.

What kind of beer are you drinking these days?

I’m in Madrid at the moment, so it’s Mahou. When in Rome…

 

[Bradskii]

Hey, the very best with the op. But the NHS guys really know their stuff. You wouldn’t want to be anywhere else if you need something sorted. Stay solid.

 

[PickyPicky]

Ta very much.

 

[o_mlly]

Now I’m three beers down and still no figures for our unafflliated chums.

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Why do I have to do your work?

Hope you can still read. Put down the bottle and update your files. Your atheist chums now make up 31% of the religious unaffliliated.

I’ll give you another hour or so to post something productive. If not, it will be cocktail time in this time zone and the frozen vodka comes out.

 

[Bradskii]

Well done. You’ve spent some valuable time digging up information that confirms something to which I’d already agreed (actually slightly less).

Now dinner has been cooked (a really nice couple of steaks) and finished, the wine drunk and I’m looking for something in the cabinet to go with my coffee.

How much more time do you need (or have you forgotten what you were supposed to be looking for…)?

‘…then whatever figure you find can be divided by at least three…’

 

[Vonsalza]

Just celebrating another great day. Sitting on the balcony watching the world go by and the sun go down.

Doing that beer-in-hand is about the finest way to pass the time I know of that still involves being dressed (said more to the prudes that would disparage it).

 

[Bradskii]

Did I say I was dressed…?

 

[IWantGod]

Did I say I was dressed…?

Walking around naked on the forums is distasteful and rude.

 

[o_mlly]

Now dinner has been cooked (a really nice couple of steaks) and finished, the wine drunk and I’m looking for something in the cabinet to go with my coffee.

How much more time do you need (or have you forgotten what you were supposed to be looking for…)?

‘…then whatever figure you find can be divided by at least three…’

Nurse: Doctor, the patient’s babbling again.
Doctor: Is he saying anything intelligent?
Nurse: No, mumbling something about his dinner.
Doctor: I’ve seen this before. It’s not pretty. Pull his plugs and put “DNR” (Do Not Reply) on his door.
Nurse: But doctor, what if he evolves intelligence.
Doctor: No chance.

 

[Bradskii]

Remember someone mentioning the ‘atheists long, dark night’?

Now dinner has been cooked (a really nice couple of steaks) and finished, the wine drunk and I’m looking for something in the cabinet to go with my coffee.

How much more time do you need (or have you forgotten what you were supposed to be looking for…)?

‘…then whatever figure you find can be divided by at least three…’

Nurse: Doctor, the patient’s babbling again.
Doctor: Is he saying anything intelligent?
Nurse: No, mumbling something about his dinner.
Doctor: I’ve seen this before. It’s not pretty. Pull his plugs and put “DNR” (Do Not Reply) on his door.
Nurse: But doctor, what if he evolves intelligence.
Doctor: No chance.

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And I’m sure we were waiting for either some actual figures for those unaffiliated to any religion who commited suicide (and dividing those numbers by 3 to get atheist figures) or figures for those who were actually atheists who did likewise.

Now is the time to put up. Or shut up. If you don’t have anything to back what you post then simply say so. I know I treat this forum a little on the light hearted side now and then, but it is meant to be a place where people can have a serious discussion about matters which concern them. If I post something that I need to back up, I do so. Or I apologise for my error and move on.

I’d like to think you can do the same. That is, back up what you post or admit that you can’t.

 

[o_mlly]

The plea of one who seeks victim status by claiming self-righteous indignation often drips with hypocrisy.

 

[Bradskii]

The plea of one who seeks victim status by claiming self-righteous indignation often drips with hypocrisy.

Fair enough. I can’t imagine that you have the information to back up what you posted and are simply waiting for an oportune moment to pass it on. So I think we can safely assume that you don’t have it. The last word on this particular subject can be yours. I’m done.

 

[o_mlly]

I can’t imagine that you have the information to back up what you posted …

You don’t have to imagine. The information has already been given. Did you not read Rosch’s two articles?

… As to your post hoc ergo propter hoc claim, take it up with your fellow atheists. All I do is report the news …

If you disagree with Rosch, take your argument up with him.

Atheism Has a Suicide Problem
By Staks Rosch • Oct 11, 2012

Atheism Has a Suicide Problem
By Staks Rosch • 12/08/2017

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Staks Rosch is a vocal atheist, humanist, progressive, and Jedi.

Staks Rosch is a writer for the Skeptic Ink Network & Huffington Post, and is also a freelance writer for Publishers Weekly. Currently he serves as the head of the Philadelphia Coalition of Reason and is a stay-at-home dad.