If/when Islam becomes the dominant religion of the West

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DiscipleofJesus, it is THIS tactic we are warning agaisnt…in fact, i call it TRICK…just like the Mecca verses are goody-goody when mohammad had no power and was in need of non-moslems around him, the Medina verses, when he got some cruel followers, show his true colors…as the saying goes: if you want to know the intentions of a person, give him power…when mohammad was given power, hell broke out…
St. Paul who used to kill Christians,after seeing the resurrected Jesus, his life changed completly and he became a saint.
mohammad,on the other hand, before proclaiming himself a prophet, seemed to be a fine person…after encountering his strange spirit, hell broke loose…which clarifies who this spirit is- by their fruit you shall know them.
 
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inJESUS:
DiscipleofJesus, it is THIS tactic we are warning agaisnt…in fact, i call it TRICK…just like the Mecca verses are goody-goody when mohammad had no power and was in need of non-moslems around him, the Medina verses, when he got some cruel followers, show his true colors…as the saying goes: if you want to know the intentions of a person, give him power…when mohammad was given power, hell broke out…
St. Paul who used to kill Christians,after seeing the resurrected Jesus, his life changed completly and he became a saint.
mohammad,on the other hand, before proclaiming himself a prophet, seemed to be a fine person…after encountering his strange spirit, hell broke loose…which clarifies who this spirit is- by their fruit you shall know them.
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inJESUS, thanks again for another great post 👍
 
(Wolseley says not a word, pro or con…he merely continues to wipe down 5.56-mm rounds with LSA and inserting them into 30-round magazines.)
 
Wolseley said:
(Wolseley says not a word, pro or con…he merely continues to wipe down 5.56-mm rounds with LSA and inserting them into 30-round magazines.)
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And while you do that, an extremist Muslim considers the same scenario and figures what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Peace…
 
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ahimsaman72:
And while you do that, an extremist Muslim considers the same scenario and figures what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Peace…
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More than likely.

But if any of the Prophet’s followers want to take my head off with a rusty knife, they’ll have to collect some high-impact lead first. I’m not “diverse” and “multicultural”, and I don’t go quietly.

I saw the signs carried by the recent protestors—all of them added up to the same message: “We’re coming to get you.”

And my response is: “Come and get me. But be prepared, because I’m not going to greet you with a workshop on anger management so you can channel your negative energies into personal fulfillment.”

Freedom isn’t free.
 
gurrato alaien:
Yes brother if you are in Islamic State and among the harmless minority so you are free to practice your religious rites as far as you don’t offense Islam such as recently the offensive drowning cartoon cartoon in the name of freedom speech or drink alcohol front of the people .…
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Ahhhh, the operative word here is “OFFENSE” which can mean anything that happens to bother a Muslim no matter how trivial it may be. Say I wear a cross around my neck in Saudi Arabia and you can see it, although this is a trivial thing it is forbidden in that country. Openly reading the Holy Scriptures in public is also forbidden although it certainly is not really hurting anyone. Can church bells be rung to call Christians to prayer? How about Christian clergy wearing their clerical robes in public. These are very small trivial things but is blown out of proportion by those who feel “OFFENDED”.

So, your statement above is really pointless unless you tie down exactly what is an offense.
 
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StMarkEofE:
Ahhhh, the operative word here is “OFFENSE” which can mean anything that happens to bother a Muslim no matter how trivial it may be. Say I wear a cross around my neck in Saudi Arabia and you can see it, although this is a trivial thing it is forbidden in that country. Openly reading the Holy Scriptures in public is also forbidden although it certainly is not really hurting anyone. Can church bells be rung to call Christians to prayer? How about Christian clergy wearing their clerical robes in public. These are very small trivial things but is blown out of proportion by those who feel “OFFENDED”.

So, your statement above is really pointless unless you tie down exactly what is an offense.
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"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them" (Quran Sura 9:29-30)

Enmity and hatred will reign between us until ye believe in Allah alone." (60:4)

“Make war on them until idolatory does not exist any longer and Allah’s religion reigns universally.” (8:39) (2:193)

Some quotes from Muslim scholars S.A.A. Maududi and A.H. Siddiqi in “Jihad in Islam” :
“Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and program of Islam. Islam requires the earth - not just a portion.”
“[Muhammad taught:] Wage war for the sake of Allah. Kill whoever denies Him.”

“Jihad has been made obligatory on every Muslim . . . and in His [Allah’s] eyes avoidance of Jihad is the greatest sin.”

Each Muslim should have an ambition for martyrdom, be a lover of death. Every martyr shall have seventy deer-eyed houris as his consorts.

[and,] “Jihad shall continue until the Day of Judgment.”

Hadith:
‘O Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and hypocrites and deal rigorously with them; their home shall be Hell’ (IX.73).

‘O believers, fight the infidels who dwell around you, and deal rigorously with them’ (IX.124).

‘Do not yield to unbelievers, but strive against them in a strenuous Jihad’ (XXV.54).

‘Fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to Him’ (XXII.77).

'Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah with your wealth and your person’s (IX.41).

what kind of love, respect, equal rights do you expect from a cult?
 
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Booklover:
Great post! My sentiments exactly!👍

Vickie
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But see​

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In contrast - [Special Dispatch Series - No. 952 (http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP95205)

Iraqi Politician Iyad Jamal Al-Din: ‘My Freedom as a Shi’ite and as a Religious Person Will Never Be Complete Unless I Preserve the Freedom of the Sunni, Christian, Jew, Sabai, or Yazidi’ - http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP95205 - 20k - 08 Aug 2005

But in Egypt: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP79004

September 27, 2004 No.790
Egyptian Intellectual: Al-Azhar University Curricula Encourage Extremism and Terrorism

***Progressive writer and Cairo University lecturer on the sociology of religion Sayyed Al-Qimni *wrote, in an article in the Egyptian weekly Roz Al-Youssef, that the curricula of **Al-Azhar University encourage extremism and terror. The following are excerpts from the article: [1]

**'One Must Degrade Dhimmis [Non-Muslims Living in Muslims Countries]’

**“And what about after the conquest, the emigration and the taking up of residence in the conquered land alongside its non-Muslim residents, who pay the *jizya *? [On this matter] there are guidelines [in ’ ***Al-Rawdh Al-Murabba Sharh Zad Al-Mustaqna *’ by **Mansur Ibn Yunes Al-Buhuti ** [through which] one can see what the position of an Al-Azhar graduate [will be] towards his [non-Muslim] brother in the [Arab] homeland: ‘… The [hair] on their foreheads must be cut… They are permitted to ride [mounts] other than horses, such as donkeys, without a saddle… [One] must not rise in their honor or precede them in greetings… [One] must not offer them condolences, visit them in sickness or participate in their celebrations. They are forbidden to establish new churches or to rebuild those that were destroyed… They are forbidden to build a structure higher than those belonging to Muslims… They must be forbidden to raise their voice in mourning the dead.’ If a *dhimmi *[3] invites a Muslim to a wedding celebration, he must not go, ‘because one must degrade *dhimmis *…’”

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Such are some of the things that Christians (in this case) would be forbidden to do. It is essential to tell people what they would not be allowed to do. Being a dhimmi strikes not only at what NAMBLA (say), or NARAL do - it prohibits much more than that. Muslims must not be allowed to get away with unspecific denunciations of “Western degeneracy” - that label includes the worship of the Blessed Trinity every bit as much as it includes secularism or abortion. I have not yet seen this made clear. ##
 
Gottle of Geer said:
## But see
and
In contrast - [Special Dispatch Series - No. 952 (http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP95205)

Iraqi Politician Iyad Jamal Al-Din: ‘My Freedom as a Shi’ite and as a Religious Person Will Never Be Complete Unless I Preserve the Freedom of the Sunni, Christian, Jew, Sabai, or Yazidi’ - http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP95205 - 20k - 08 Aug 2005

But in Egypt: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP79004

September 27, 2004 No.790
Egyptian Intellectual: Al-Azhar University Curricula Encourage Extremism and Terrorism

***Progressive writer and Cairo University lecturer on the sociology of religion Sayyed Al-Qimni ***wrote, in an article in the Egyptian weekly Roz Al-Youssef, that the curricula of **Al-Azhar University **encourage extremism and terror. The following are excerpts from the article: [1]

’One Must Degrade Dhimmis [Non-Muslims Living in Muslims Countries]’

"And what about after the conquest, the emigration and the taking up of residence in the conquered land alongside its non-Muslim residents, who pay the *jizya *? [On this matter] there are guidelines [in ’ ***Al-Rawdh Al-Murabba Sharh Zad Al-Mustaqna *
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’ by **Mansur Ibn Yunes Al-Buhuti ** [through which] one can see what the position of an Al-Azhar graduate [will be] towards his [non-Muslim] brother in the [Arab] homeland: ‘… The [hair] on their foreheads must be cut… They are permitted to ride [mounts] other than horses, such as donkeys, without a saddle… [One] must not rise in their honor or precede them in greetings… [One] must not offer them condolences, visit them in sickness or participate in their celebrations. They are forbidden to establish new churches or to rebuild those that were destroyed… They are forbidden to build a structure higher than those belonging to Muslims… They must be forbidden to raise their voice in mourning the dead.’ If a *dhimmi *[3] invites a Muslim to a wedding celebration, he must not go, ‘because one must degrade *dhimmis *…’"

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Such are some of the things that Christians (in this case) would be forbidden to do. It is essential to tell people what they would not be allowed to do. Being a dhimmi strikes not only at what NAMBLA (say), or NARAL do - it prohibits much more than that. Muslims must not be allowed to get away with unspecific denunciations of “Western degeneracy” - that label includes the worship of the Blessed Trinity every bit as much as it includes secularism or abortion. I have not yet seen this made clear. ##

You need to enlarge your type for us old guys. Thank you.
 
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StMarkEofE:
You need to enlarge your type for us old guys. Thank you.
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Hey, who you callin’ old?? I’m pretty young and I can’t read it either 😃 . Of course, I feel like I’m almost blind anyway - I am without my glasses 🤓

Peace…
 
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StMarkEofE:
You need to enlarge your type for us old guys. Thank you.
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Which of these is most easy on the eye ?​

🤓 I wear specs too - originally for the TV.

ISTM that any font above two is almost aggressive - as if the size of it were saying to reader “Look how big I am” - it feels intrusive.

Isn’t smaller font with sharp colour contrast OK 🙂 ? ##
 
gurrato alaien:
Why you worry from being under Islamic state?
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Because I value freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and a nation under civil, not religious, law.
gurrato alaien:
These rights have been challenged, of course, by the division of the Muslim nation into nation states in the modern era after independence from colonialism. Many attempts have been made to unite these states but in vain, due to numerous reasons that can be discussed at length separately.
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Sounds like you would like another Caliphate.
 
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yinekka:
If/when Islam becomes the dominant religion of the West be prepared for : Dhimitude 😦

Dhimmitude is the status that Islamic law, the Sharia, mandates for non-Muslims, primarily Jews and Christians. Dhimmis, “protected people,” are free to practice their religion in a Sharia regime, but are made subject to a number of humiliating regulations designed to enforce the Qur’an’s command that they “feel themselves subdued” (Sura 9:29). This denial of equality of rights and dignity remains part of the Sharia, and, as such, are part of the law that global jihadists are laboring to impose everywhere, ultimately on the entire human race.
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Gee, sort of sounds like how the Church used to treat Jews – forcing them to live in ghettos, wear distinctive clothing, &c. Of course it’s perfectly logical that if you’re the One True Faith “infidels” have no rights that you’re bound to respect.

The shoe piches when it’s on the other foot, doesn’t it?
 
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