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If you are a Christian, what is the real reason for you not being a Catholic?
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fbl9
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hi mariette are you stating it is a woman’s right to disobey God’s first commandment to the human race “go be fruitful and mutiply”…viagra and birth control are two very different things. viagra does not prevent pro-creation but makes it possible for some males.bith control prevents life from taking place.
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marietta
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mgrfin:
I recognized the error of my interpretation of your post. I apologized. Not good enough.
I do not know the history of you and VARC. I don’t feel that history with someone makes it all right to snipe. Some of us are newcomers here; how are we to know who supports and who disrespects whom? I don’t have radar. Not good enough.
I calls 'em as I sees 'em: I don’t shrink when I read somebody taking a cheap shot. Different approach. Not good enough.
And about those “reportedly gonads”?? Where on earth did that come from, and what do you mean?? I don’t understand your point.
Good enough?
marietta
I recognized the error of my interpretation of your post. I apologized. Not good enough.
I do not know the history of you and VARC. I don’t feel that history with someone makes it all right to snipe. Some of us are newcomers here; how are we to know who supports and who disrespects whom? I don’t have radar. Not good enough.
I calls 'em as I sees 'em: I don’t shrink when I read somebody taking a cheap shot. Different approach. Not good enough.
And about those “reportedly gonads”?? Where on earth did that come from, and what do you mean?? I don’t understand your point.
Good enough?
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justasking4
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mgrfin;3301784]
Originally Posted by justasking4
Theological reasons. Much of the catholic faith doesn’t line up with Scripture and goes far beyond it. The marian doctrines and pracitces are a case in point and one of the most blatant examples.
Do you mean saints who have died? If so, where is it taught that we are to honor or pray to them?mgrfin
Is that right? Well, the following line up perfectly with Scripture:
The purpose of man’s existence
God and his perfections
The Unity and Trinity of God
Creation, and the angeles
The Fall of Man
Actual Sin
The Incarnation
The Redemption
The Holy Spirit and Grace
The Virtues and Gifts of the Holy Spirit
The Church on earth
Marks and Attributes of the Church
The Communion of Saints and Forgiveness of Sins
The Resurrection and Life everlasting.
The Two great commandments
The First Commandment
Honoring the Saints
What is confirmation and where is it shown in Scripture?Second and Third Commandments
Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Commandments
Seventh, Eight and Nineth Commandments
The Commandments of the church
The Sacraments
Baptism
Confirmation
Where do the scriptures teach about peneance?The Holy Eucharist
Holy Communion
Penance and Confession
MatrimonyExtreme Unction and Holy Orders
Where is it taught in Scripture that matrimony is a sacrament?Sacramentals
Prayer
The Our Father.
It would be similar to some of what you write above. I would also add things like faith in Christ to be saved, the scriptures alone are inspired-inerrant, true salvation in Christ cannot be lost.Okay, thats a pretty summary list. What have you got in your list that will stand up with Scripture?
i agree. Its grounded in Scripture.If what you have is there because it is 'anti-Catholic", then it is not much of a religion, just because it is against ours.
But, go ahead with your list.
see previous postpeac
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marietta
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guanofore:
-----It is no problem to have men in ministry. Why is it a problem to have women in ministry? And could Jesus really have come to be among mortals as a woman? Am I under the mistaken impression that Jesus was doing God’s will, coming to earth as man? Where does the will of Jesus enter into it? He followed the commands of His Father from birth to death; otherwise, His life may have been quite different.
-----Any man can try to counsel a woman after she has been sexually assaulted, perhaps even by her own husband. Any man can try. What I posted was that no man has the authority to counsel ME on these matters. I have been counseled by men in the past, but for purposes of authentically empathic guidance toward recovery after such brutality, only a woman practitioner will do for me. You are correct: I have little consideration for the male psyche in these matters.
-----The party line? That is the alpha and omega of Roman Catholic dogma, adorned with every edict which emanates from Rome.
-----Because I don’t believe as you do, I need counseling? Is that how you operate?
-----Protected nature of the priesthood refers to exactly what I addressed in my post: outing the offender instead of protecting him, at the expense of an unsuspecting parish, by moving him on down the line. The priesthood is like any other group of (predominantly) men: they protect their own. They zip their lips. They refuse comment. They become unavailable. There is nothing sacred or respectable about that: these are sins of omission.
-----Did Jesus choose celibacy? Or was that, too, preordained as part and parcel of his mission here?
-----Divorce statistics are numbers which tell us that marriage isn’t all it’s made out to be for everyone. Is it the fault of the Catholic Church? No more than the fault of any other organization.
-----Do you wish to “become perfect”? You do understand that’s impossible . . . ?
marietta
-----It is no problem to have men in ministry. Why is it a problem to have women in ministry? And could Jesus really have come to be among mortals as a woman? Am I under the mistaken impression that Jesus was doing God’s will, coming to earth as man? Where does the will of Jesus enter into it? He followed the commands of His Father from birth to death; otherwise, His life may have been quite different.
-----Any man can try to counsel a woman after she has been sexually assaulted, perhaps even by her own husband. Any man can try. What I posted was that no man has the authority to counsel ME on these matters. I have been counseled by men in the past, but for purposes of authentically empathic guidance toward recovery after such brutality, only a woman practitioner will do for me. You are correct: I have little consideration for the male psyche in these matters.
-----The party line? That is the alpha and omega of Roman Catholic dogma, adorned with every edict which emanates from Rome.
-----Because I don’t believe as you do, I need counseling? Is that how you operate?
-----Protected nature of the priesthood refers to exactly what I addressed in my post: outing the offender instead of protecting him, at the expense of an unsuspecting parish, by moving him on down the line. The priesthood is like any other group of (predominantly) men: they protect their own. They zip their lips. They refuse comment. They become unavailable. There is nothing sacred or respectable about that: these are sins of omission.
-----Did Jesus choose celibacy? Or was that, too, preordained as part and parcel of his mission here?
-----Divorce statistics are numbers which tell us that marriage isn’t all it’s made out to be for everyone. Is it the fault of the Catholic Church? No more than the fault of any other organization.
-----Do you wish to “become perfect”? You do understand that’s impossible . . . ?
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marietta
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fbl9:
“Go be fruitful and mutiply (sic)” is not God’s First Commandment as I know it.
Nonetheless, I agree with your assessment that Viagra and birth control are two very different things. Viagra potentially solves the problem for men with ED. It then throws the family planning ball right back into the lap of the woman. Drugs for men so they can have successful sex? OK! Drugs for women so that we don’t have to manage for another 18 or 20 years with a child that was completely unexpected? Absolutely not! Sinful! Against the will of God!
If God says the man isn’t entitled to any more sustainable erections, should not the man abide by God’s will and leave the prescription at the pharmacy?
Mine is a “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander” argument. I don’t expect you to see any light in it because you are used to living another way. We will never agree on any of this, I’m sure. I come to the forums to remind myself why I left Catholicism in the first place. There’s no fixing it. Not even “Pastoral Counseling”.
Blessings anyway,
marietta
“Go be fruitful and mutiply (sic)” is not God’s First Commandment as I know it.
Nonetheless, I agree with your assessment that Viagra and birth control are two very different things. Viagra potentially solves the problem for men with ED. It then throws the family planning ball right back into the lap of the woman. Drugs for men so they can have successful sex? OK! Drugs for women so that we don’t have to manage for another 18 or 20 years with a child that was completely unexpected? Absolutely not! Sinful! Against the will of God!
If God says the man isn’t entitled to any more sustainable erections, should not the man abide by God’s will and leave the prescription at the pharmacy?
Mine is a “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander” argument. I don’t expect you to see any light in it because you are used to living another way. We will never agree on any of this, I’m sure. I come to the forums to remind myself why I left Catholicism in the first place. There’s no fixing it. Not even “Pastoral Counseling”.
Blessings anyway,
marietta
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fbl9
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hi marietta i can agree with you on the male should accept his condition. throwing the ball back will the wife be willing to accept her husband"s condition?as for go" be fruitful and mutiply"can you tell us what God really meant by this.
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qui_est_ce
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If they are saints, they are still alive. Why do you distinguish between mortal life and spiritual life? Are we not appealing to the spiritual life of those from whom we request prayer? Can only mortals pray? Souls in Heaven don’t pray anymore?Do you mean saints who have died? If so, where is it taught that we are to honor or pray to them?
You add. Where does it say that “Scripture alone is (name removed by moderator)ired-inerrant?” What does “true salvation” mean and where is that found in the Bible?It would be similar to some of what you write above. **I would also add things **like faith in Christ to be saved, the scriptures alone are inspired-inerrant, true salvation in Christ cannot be lost.
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justasking4
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qui est ce;3304617]
Originally Posted by justasking4
Do you mean saints who have died? If so, where is it taught that we are to honor or pray to them?
What catholics assume is that it is possible to communicate with the dead via prayer. Just because they may be alive somewhere does not mean they can hear your prayer i.e. communications.qui est ce
If they are saints, they are still alive. Why do you distinguish between mortal life and spiritual life? Are we not appealing to the spiritual life of those from whom we request prayer? Can only mortals pray? Souls in Heaven don’t pray anymore?
The only One Who can is the Lord Jesus.
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It would be similar to some of what you write above. I would also add things like faith in Christ to be saved, the scriptures alone are inspired-inerrant, true salvation in Christ cannot be lost.
No need to make the case for this since both the catholic church and protestants beleive this to be the case.qui est ce
You add. Where does it say that “Scripture alone is (name removed by moderator)ired-inerrant?”
Salvation in the context we are discussing means that sinner is forgiven all his sins by Christ, reconciled to God and a citizen of heaven. This was accomplished for us by Christ.What does “true salvation” mean and where is that found in the Bible?
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qui_est_ce
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And you assume they cannot.What catholics assume is that it is possible to communicate with the dead via prayer. Just because they may be alive somewhere does not mean they can hear your prayer i.e. communications.
Again, you assume Jesus is the ONLY ONE who can hear us.The only One Who can is the Lord Jesus.
"qui est ce:the scriptures alone are inspired-inerrant,
Where does it say that “Scripture alone is (name removed by moderator)ired-inerrant?”
Please do prove this, Catholics do NOT believe Scripture ALONE is inspired/inerrant.No need to make the case for this since both the catholic church and protestants beleive this to be the case.
How is one reconciled to God? Can one be a citizen of Heaven and still be mortally alive on Earth?true salvation in Christ cannot be lost.
Salvation in the context we are discussing means that sinner is forgiven all his sins by Christ, reconciled to God and a citizen of heaven. This was accomplished for us by Christ.
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justasking4
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Since you are the one claiming that they can hear then the burden of proof is on you to show this to be the case. The Scriptures certainly don’t support it.qui est ce;3305063]
Originally Posted by justasking4
What catholics assume is that it is possible to communicate with the dead via prayer. Just because they may be alive somewhere does not mean they can hear your prayer i.e. communications.
qui est ce
And you assume they cannot.
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The only One Who can is the Lord Jesus.
Are we not in agreement that He can indeed hear and respond to our paryers because scripture says so?qui est ce
Again, you assume Jesus is the ONLY ONE who can hear us.
Now where do the scriptures teach the same kind of thing or show by example that a person who has died can hear your prayers?
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the scriptures alone are inspired-inerrant,
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Where does it say that “Scripture alone is (name removed by moderator)ired-inerrant?”
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Originally Posted by justasking4
No need to make the case for this since both the catholic church and protestants beleive this to be the case.
It is catholic belief and doctrine that scriptures are inspired-inerrant. Since we agree on this point and i don’t believe anything beyond this is inspired-inerrant and perhaps you do then its up to you to show how this “source” other than the scriptures are also inspired-inerrant.qui est ce
Please do prove this, Catholics do NOT believe Scripture ALONE is inspired/inerrant.
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true salvation in Christ cannot be lost.
By repenting of your sins, believing in your hearrt that Christ died for all of them and rose again you will be reconciled to God again.Salvation in the context we are discussing means that sinner is forgiven all his sins by Christ, reconciled to God and a citizen of heaven. This was accomplished for us by Christ.
qui est ce
How is one reconciled to God?
yesCan one be a citizen of Heaven and still be mortally alive on Earth?
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guanophore
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Where is it taught in Scripture that matrimony is a sacrament?Do you mean saints who have died? If so, where is it taught that we are to honor or pray to them?
What is confirmation and where is it shown in Scripture?
Where do the scriptures teach about peneance?
Matrimony
Prayer
The Our Father.
It would be similar to some of what you write above. I would also add things like faith in Christ to be saved, the scriptures alone are inspired-inerrant, true salvation in Christ cannot be lost.
i agree. Its grounded in Scripture.
see previous post
I really think that most of this should go on another thread.
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Archus
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hmm… it seems that a lot of it comes back to Scripture, whether we want it to or not. Especially, it seems, when the Saints are involved…
As Catholics, we believe that “everything in the Bible is true”, not “everything that is true is in the Bible”. Hence our argument against Sola Scriptura. Let us for the moment ignore Scriptural references, as this can only make things worse and make us go round in circles, for the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
I would like to first address the concern of the Saints. A dogmatic (right term?) problem to be sure, because nowhere in Scripture, to my knowledge, does it state we should honour those in Heaven, if indeed, we know that they are. However, I think it stems from a misinterpretation of ‘Communion of Saints’. That is, the part of the Catholic faith that has saints. It seems to have been interpreted as ‘praying to the saints’, whereas it is instead ‘praying with the saints’. Just as on Earth, we pray in groups, and come together at Mass, the Saints are there with us too, guiding us in our prayer and praying with us. Indeed, prayer is never a solitary exercise, it is a dialogue, with God and also the saints, praying with us to God, and interceding for us on our behalf.
What do I mean by Saint? I mean it in the original sense, that is, not one whom the Church has designated as ‘holy and in heaven’, but simply one who is ‘blessed’. That includes us, and as such when it comes to the Communion of Saints, it means that as a community, both on Earth and in Heaven (and Purgatory as well…), we are all praying together, to God, and God answers back.
It is like asking a friend for help. Usually, under such restrictions, people may ask ‘why did you get your friend to help you? Don’t you know you have your father to do that for you?’
I answer, ‘Yes, but I still love my friend, and we have helped each other. It will please my father to know we are working together, for the gift he brings back is for him, from both of us.’
That is what I mean by intercession, and communion of saints. They are there to help, to be part of the community, and also serve as role models, a friend to look up to, and to help us by following their example. Of course, for those saints in heaven, in order to communicate with them, we do need to pray to them as well, just as with my friend, I may need to call him through a phone, or some other communications.
For example, to help us with our battle against evil, we may pray to St. Michael, who is the chief warrior of heaven. It doesn’t mean that we cannot do it ourselves, it means that we want all the help we can get, and through this community, this sacred brotherhood, we are drawn closer together to God, from the love that we feel towards each other, because I say, the gift is for Him.
It is not Scripture, our faith, our catechism, is based on common sense. We live in a community of love. Therefore, we help each other out. We pray for one another, in some cases, to one another. But above all, remember that God is love, and to love is to love God. For it is the greatest of all virtues, and the one thing that allowed us to live.
As Catholics, we believe that “everything in the Bible is true”, not “everything that is true is in the Bible”. Hence our argument against Sola Scriptura. Let us for the moment ignore Scriptural references, as this can only make things worse and make us go round in circles, for the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
I would like to first address the concern of the Saints. A dogmatic (right term?) problem to be sure, because nowhere in Scripture, to my knowledge, does it state we should honour those in Heaven, if indeed, we know that they are. However, I think it stems from a misinterpretation of ‘Communion of Saints’. That is, the part of the Catholic faith that has saints. It seems to have been interpreted as ‘praying to the saints’, whereas it is instead ‘praying with the saints’. Just as on Earth, we pray in groups, and come together at Mass, the Saints are there with us too, guiding us in our prayer and praying with us. Indeed, prayer is never a solitary exercise, it is a dialogue, with God and also the saints, praying with us to God, and interceding for us on our behalf.
What do I mean by Saint? I mean it in the original sense, that is, not one whom the Church has designated as ‘holy and in heaven’, but simply one who is ‘blessed’. That includes us, and as such when it comes to the Communion of Saints, it means that as a community, both on Earth and in Heaven (and Purgatory as well…), we are all praying together, to God, and God answers back.
It is like asking a friend for help. Usually, under such restrictions, people may ask ‘why did you get your friend to help you? Don’t you know you have your father to do that for you?’
I answer, ‘Yes, but I still love my friend, and we have helped each other. It will please my father to know we are working together, for the gift he brings back is for him, from both of us.’
That is what I mean by intercession, and communion of saints. They are there to help, to be part of the community, and also serve as role models, a friend to look up to, and to help us by following their example. Of course, for those saints in heaven, in order to communicate with them, we do need to pray to them as well, just as with my friend, I may need to call him through a phone, or some other communications.
For example, to help us with our battle against evil, we may pray to St. Michael, who is the chief warrior of heaven. It doesn’t mean that we cannot do it ourselves, it means that we want all the help we can get, and through this community, this sacred brotherhood, we are drawn closer together to God, from the love that we feel towards each other, because I say, the gift is for Him.
It is not Scripture, our faith, our catechism, is based on common sense. We live in a community of love. Therefore, we help each other out. We pray for one another, in some cases, to one another. But above all, remember that God is love, and to love is to love God. For it is the greatest of all virtues, and the one thing that allowed us to live.
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marietta
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fbl9:
“Go be fruitful and multiply.” I believe every human being has multiple capacities to be fruitful without multiplying. Thinkers, artists, caregivers, inventors - anyone with an idea can be fruitful. Anyone with a talent or a gift can be fruitful.
When God first reportedly commanded that we “be fruitful and multiply”, the population of this planet was scant in comparison to today’s 6,650,000,000. That’s an astonishing amount of multiplying, some of which is accidental, some of which is a direct result of failure to control fertility and desire.
When I look around and see children struggling because they were born into a toxic environment or a loveless union, I wonder about God’s edict. Surely He must have anticipated this result. And since He didn’t go wrong, we must have. It’s a pathetic statement about sexuality, free will, and the base nature of human beings. We want what we want when we want it. Please, no lectures about love between partners and every child being a blessing. Maybe you live in that bubble, but many people do not.
marietta
“Go be fruitful and multiply.” I believe every human being has multiple capacities to be fruitful without multiplying. Thinkers, artists, caregivers, inventors - anyone with an idea can be fruitful. Anyone with a talent or a gift can be fruitful.
When God first reportedly commanded that we “be fruitful and multiply”, the population of this planet was scant in comparison to today’s 6,650,000,000. That’s an astonishing amount of multiplying, some of which is accidental, some of which is a direct result of failure to control fertility and desire.
When I look around and see children struggling because they were born into a toxic environment or a loveless union, I wonder about God’s edict. Surely He must have anticipated this result. And since He didn’t go wrong, we must have. It’s a pathetic statement about sexuality, free will, and the base nature of human beings. We want what we want when we want it. Please, no lectures about love between partners and every child being a blessing. Maybe you live in that bubble, but many people do not.
marietta
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onmyknees
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Praying for the dead in purgatory 2 Mac.12:44-45.
Prayers for the saints Rev. 5:8
Oral tradition handed down from the apostles:John 21:25
Confession John 20:21-23
An example of purgatory 1Cor.3:15
Confirmation Acts 2:1-41 Pentecost receiving the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Holy Eucharist(The Real Presence of Jesus) John 6:48-56
Mary our Mother John 19:27
Mary Queen of Heaven Rev. 12:
Mary conceived without sin Luke 1:26-48 Mary full of grace.(Full of grace means you are without sin. Mary was the first tabernacle for Jesus. Do you think Jesus would want to dwell in someone who was not clean?
Anointing of the sick James 5:15-16
The Church’s authority is guided by the Holy Spirit John 16:12
You wanted scripture quotes.
Prayers for the saints Rev. 5:8
Oral tradition handed down from the apostles:John 21:25
Confession John 20:21-23
An example of purgatory 1Cor.3:15
Confirmation Acts 2:1-41 Pentecost receiving the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Holy Eucharist(The Real Presence of Jesus) John 6:48-56
Mary our Mother John 19:27
Mary Queen of Heaven Rev. 12:
Mary conceived without sin Luke 1:26-48 Mary full of grace.(Full of grace means you are without sin. Mary was the first tabernacle for Jesus. Do you think Jesus would want to dwell in someone who was not clean?
Anointing of the sick James 5:15-16
The Church’s authority is guided by the Holy Spirit John 16:12
You wanted scripture quotes.
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Aineiora
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Amen, brother! (or sister, I never check the profiles…)Praying for the dead in purgatory 2 Mac.12:44-45.
Prayers for the saints Rev. 5:8
Oral tradition handed down from the apostles:John 21:25
Confession John 20:21-23
An example of purgatory 1Cor.3:15
Confirmation Acts 2:1-41 Pentecost receiving the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Holy Eucharist(The Real Presence of Jesus) John 6:48-56
Mary our Mother John 19:27
Mary Queen of Heaven Rev. 12:
Mary conceived without sin Luke 1:26-48 Mary full of grace.(Full of grace means you are without sin. Mary was the first tabernacle for Jesus. Do you think Jesus would want to dwell in someone who was not clean?
Anointing of the sick James 5:15-16
The Church’s authority is guided by the Holy Spirit John 16:12
You wanted scripture quotes.
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fbl9
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hi marietta in your post you are on target with the failure to control desire but not on controlling fertility.the toxic environment just who is to blame for that.myself i would say simple human greed.the entertament industry uses a lot of money that could be put to better use.something i feel all of us should be looking at.why do you insist people without your views are in a bubble or in some other world. i would like to be in another world but just isn’t something that is going to happen right now.is it your fault children are born in loveless unions?is it mine?who is to blame for these loveless unions?
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onmyknees
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Marietta,
There is nothing wrong with wanting to limit family size when using natural methods to do this. When using npf the couple is abstaining during fertile times It is not wrong to abstain from sex anytime if a couple so chooses. The couple also does nothing wrong when they choose to have unprotected sex during non-fertile times. They are not closing out the possibility of having a child. Using artificial birth control the couple is altering the natural procreative act with barriers, and or chemicals. It is taking God out of the act. He created us body and soul. Pope John Paul said that npf aids the couple in self mastery which strengthens the virtues of the human person. This self discipline flows into all areas of their family life and helps in solving many difficulties. It fosters love, respect and consideration for each other. He argues that abc allows the couple to avoid this self discipline.
I have heard from couples using npf that it also draws them closer because they learn to love each other in different ways when they are abstaining. And they must communicate more while discerning\praying for what God’s plan is for their family.
Namesake, I was never taught any of this in Catholic school. So I was talked into thinking the lie that two children were enough and after all it was so expensive to raise kids and we had to give them everything right? Wrong. I was one of six children and we didn’t have much but we were loved and I am so thankful for that. My parents were among many Catholic couples who used the natural rhythm method. They all had six or more children and guess what all but one of these couples are still married for fifty plus years! They are so happy with all their grandchildren! Hope this helps. God bless you.
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There is nothing wrong with wanting to limit family size when using natural methods to do this. When using npf the couple is abstaining during fertile times It is not wrong to abstain from sex anytime if a couple so chooses. The couple also does nothing wrong when they choose to have unprotected sex during non-fertile times. They are not closing out the possibility of having a child. Using artificial birth control the couple is altering the natural procreative act with barriers, and or chemicals. It is taking God out of the act. He created us body and soul. Pope John Paul said that npf aids the couple in self mastery which strengthens the virtues of the human person. This self discipline flows into all areas of their family life and helps in solving many difficulties. It fosters love, respect and consideration for each other. He argues that abc allows the couple to avoid this self discipline.
I have heard from couples using npf that it also draws them closer because they learn to love each other in different ways when they are abstaining. And they must communicate more while discerning\praying for what God’s plan is for their family.
Namesake, I was never taught any of this in Catholic school. So I was talked into thinking the lie that two children were enough and after all it was so expensive to raise kids and we had to give them everything right? Wrong. I was one of six children and we didn’t have much but we were loved and I am so thankful for that. My parents were among many Catholic couples who used the natural rhythm method. They all had six or more children and guess what all but one of these couples are still married for fifty plus years! They are so happy with all their grandchildren! Hope this helps. God bless you.
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onmyknees
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Maybe I do live in that bubble but isn’t it choosing what is right and good. A sacrificial love, obedient to God, an example of Christianity. Did you ever wonder why divorce and poverty rates grew when the birth control pill was easily available.
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Jimmy_B
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Praying for the dead in purgatory 2 Mac.12:44-45.
Prayers for the saints Rev. 5:8
Oral tradition handed down from the apostles:John 21:25
Confession John 20:21-23
An example of purgatory 1Cor.3:15
Confirmation Acts 2:1-41 Pentecost receiving the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Holy Eucharist(The Real Presence of Jesus) John 6:48-56
Mary our Mother John 19:27
Mary Queen of Heaven Rev. 12:
Mary conceived without sin Luke 1:26-48 Mary full of grace.(Full of grace means you are without sin. Mary was the first tabernacle for Jesus. Do you think Jesus would want to dwell in someone who was not clean?
Anointing of the sick James 5:15-16
The Church’s authority is guided by the Holy Spirit John 16:12
You wanted scripture quotes.
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