If you are pro-chice how do you explain graphic abortion picutes to your childen?

[Stella_Matutina]

Or to put it another way, everyone says, “The solution is education.”

But what they don’t say (or understand) is that things like drug abuse, violence, and abortion don’t fall into the cognitive realm (logic and similar matters) but into the affective realm (emotions, values and attitudes.) To educate people in the affective realm, you must use affective strategies – which is precisely what these “shocking and graphic images” do.

And the real reason so many people don’t want these graphic images used is because they work.

Ok, to get the thread back on track…

Defining the use of graphic pictures as affective rather than cognitive is not really important. People try to say that the use of pictures is just a cheap way of pulling at people’s heart strings and not getting to the truth of the matter, but graphic pictures have been used for educational purposes forever- the Vietnam War, hate crimes, etc.

When confronting those who are pro-abortion with graphic pictures their immediate response is to claim that the pictures are fake (denail). Then they try to further distance their position from the pictures by saying, “I could show you pictures too! Of women dead on the floor with coat hangers stuck inside them.”
To them the dead baby is not as bad as the dead woman who to them is a “person.” They choose the lesser of the two evils and would rather see a field of dead babies rather than dead adult women who botched their abortions.

Little do they know how much larger the dead baby field is. They have been brainwashed to believe abortion must be legal or we’ll have millions of women dieing from “backalley” abortion.

PS- Survivor’s guilt is real. Take it from someone who knows.

 

[vern_humphrey]

Ok, to get the thread back on track…

Defining the use of graphic pictures as affective rather than cognitive is not really important. People try to say that the use of pictures is just a cheap way of pulling at people’s heart strings and not getting to the truth of the matter, but graphic pictures have been used for educational purposes forever- the Vietnam War, hate crimes, etc.

When confronting those who are pro-abortion with graphic pictures their immediate response is to claim that the pictures are fake (denail). Then they try to further distance their position from the pictures by saying, “I could show you pictures too! Of women dead on the floor with coat hangers stuck inside them.”
To them the dead baby is not as bad as the dead woman who to them is a “person.” They choose the lesser of the two evils and would rather see a field of dead babies rather than dead adult women who botched their abortions.

Little do they know how much larger the dead baby field is. They have been brainwashed to believe abortion must be legal or we’ll have millions of women dieing from “backalley” abortion.

PS- Survivor’s guilt is real. Take it from someone who knows.

All of which shows that things like abortion, drug abuse are not “logical decisions” but value- and emotion-based.

 

[Stella_Matutina]

All of which shows that things like abortion, drug abuse are not “logical decisions” but value- and emotion-based.

I don’t think I understand what you mean by that.

Abortion and drug abuse can be thought of in rational and “logical” terms. It is illogical to kill your own offspring. It is illogical to harm the only body God gave you with drugs.

I don’t really see how it is relevant to make a distinction between what decisions are emotion or reasoned base because all decisions draw on both reason and emotion.

 

[vern_humphrey]

I don’t think I understand what you mean by that.

Abortion and drug abuse can be thought of in rational and “logical” terms. It is illogical to kill your own offspring. It is illogical to harm the only body God gave you with drugs.

Turn your binoculars around and look through the eyepieces.

If people do illogical things, they must do them for a reason – a reason that has nothing to do with logic…

I don’t really see how it is relevant to make a distinction between what decisions are emotion or reasoned base because all decisions draw on both reason and emotion.

It is relevant because it tells you what strategies may work to reach people.

You cannot teach someone to ride a bicycle by having him read a book – that’s trying to teach a psycho-motor skill with a cognitive strategy.

You cannot teach someone calculus by having him shoot hoops – that’s trying to teach a cognitive skill with a psycho-motor strategy.

Similarly, you cannot use logic to talk someone out of using drugs – that’s using a cognitive strategy in the affective realm. When dealing with things like abortion, drug abuse and so on, we are in the affective realm and must use affective strategies.

 

[Good_Daughter]

Similarly, you cannot use logic to talk someone out of using drugs – that’s using a cognitive strategy in the affective realm. When dealing with things like abortion, drug abuse and so on, we are in the affective realm and must use affective strategies.

This is interesting. I’m not sure about the U.S. or other countries, but in Canada, cigarette packages contain graphic images depicting the potential health hazards of smoking. They’re obviously very ugly and I think their use would be another prime example of an affective strategy, similar to graphic abortion pictures.

 

[vern_humphrey]

This is interesting. I’m not sure about the U.S. or other countries, but in Canada, cigarette packages contain graphic images depicting the potential health hazards of smoking. They’re obviously very ugly and I think their use would be another prime example of an affective strategy, similar to graphic abortion pictures.

Other affective strategies are status and peer pressure. Kids smoke because it’s “cool” and makes them feel “grown up.”

Years ago when my youngest daughter was in school, there was a program that encouraged the kids to refer to smokers as “butt heads.” It was effective – but the Politically Correct crowd complained, and they had to stop.