If You Could Change Three Things About Society And Three Things About The Church, What Would They Be?

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Good question:

Society
  1. Feed, Clothe and House the poor/homeless
  2. Reward selflessness, not selfishness
  3. Care for the environment. There are so many places that are uninhabitable or unhealthy to be as a result of how we’ve treated the land, the water, etc.
Church
  1. Unification of the entire body of Christ into one voice/one movement
  2. Christians being encouraged to show and live the radical love that we’ve found in Jesus
  3. Stop being swayed by secular society to change in order to be “popular”. There’s so much pressure for Catholics to follow the direction of some Protestant churches.
Suggestions I liked from other people’s lists.

1)The elderly should be placed on a pedestals instead of the rich, young and beautiful
2) mandatory religious education
3) Orthodoxy in Catholic schools and universities (I’d also say Orthodox Christianity for the Protestants) Get back to basics.

This was a great thought exercise. Thanks for asking the question.
 
Kal2012 said:
Good question:

Society
  1. Feed, Clothe and House the poor/homeless
  2. Reward selflessness, not selfishness
  3. Care for the environment. There are so many places that are uninhabitable or unhealthy to be as a result of how we’ve treated the land, the water, etc.
Church
  1. Unification of the entire body of Christ into one voice/one movement
  2. Christians being encouraged to show and live the radical love that we’ve found in Jesus
  3. Stop being swayed by secular society to change in order to be “popular”. There’s so much pressure for Catholics to follow the direction of some Protestant churches.
Suggestions I liked from other people’s lists.

1)The elderly should be placed on a pedestals instead of the rich, young and beautiful
2) mandatory religious education
3) Orthodoxy in Catholic schools and universities (I’d also say Orthodox Christianity for the Protestants) Get back to basics.

This was a great thought exercise. Thanks for asking the question.
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Your answers are spot on!
I would add free post secondary education which includes both academic and hands on voc ed training.
For the Church side, annulments would be finished within six months and be literally free to obtain. I would also like to see the word “disordered” REMOVED from any reference in the CCC or, for that matter, in the totally patronizing manner in which some Catholics write and speak about LGBTQ individuals.🙂
 
I only have two for each:

Society:

That everyone loves God with their whole hearts, and with their whole souls, and with their whole minds all the time.

That everyone loves their neighbor as themselves all the time.

Church:

Same.
 
Melodeonist said:
This is what I would make things be. 😃

Society: No immoral/impure content in any music/movies/books/clothes. No abortion. Housing for the homeless.

Church: Politicians who claim to be Catholic actually following Catholic doctrine. Religious advertising (why not?). Finding ways to help people become more faithful, and sin less.
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Amen.

Ed
 
In terms of the Church, the only thing we need is to see leadership, especially bishops but also abbots, pastors etc, focus full attention on the salvation of those Christians they serve.

In terms of society, I would see the end of Marxist-style attempts to address human problems by placing people into warring groups and classes. I think that covers pretty much all of it. I would also see the legal voting age raised to thirty.

Blessings,
Joan
 
Hi to all,

To add to my previous post, the focus of the Church leadership would be not only spiritual leadership to those already Christians, but also of course the evangelizing of those not in the Church.

Blessings,
Joan
 
kozlosap said:
If the word “disordered” is removed, there is no need to replace it. The ban on gay relationships would obviously continue, but without that word.🤷
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If the word is removed, the remaining sentence fragments will make no sense 😉 . Seriously though, given other phrases used in the CCC to refer to that topic, like “grave depravity,” “disordered” seems like a more dispassionate and less provocative word. It’s also less discriminatory, since there are all sorts of disordered desires and inclinations people can have–and all of us born in original sin deal with some daily. Why do you see it as more problematic?

Just so you know, “disordered” is used A LOT of places in the Catechism other than that. Getting rid of references to it would take a large chunk out! A random sampling that came up from a quick Google search for the word:

CCC said:
339…Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

1768…Passions are morally good when they contribute to a good action, evil in the opposite case. The upright will orders the movements of the senses it appropriates to the good and to beatitude; an evil will succumbs to disordered passions and exacerbates them. Emotions and feelings can be taken up into the virtues or perverted by the vices.

1753 A good intention (for example, that of helping one’s neighbor) does not make behavior that is intrinsically disordered, such as lying and calumny, good or just…

1863 Venial sin weakens charity; it manifests a disordered affection for created goods; it impedes the soul’s progress in the exercise of the virtues and the practice of the moral good; it merits temporal punishment…

2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

2520 Baptism confers on its recipient the grace of purification from all sins. But the baptized must continue to struggle against concupiscence of the flesh and disordered desires…
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Society : 1. A return to traditional marriage and family life. 2. That teachers and caregivers would get paid a living wage. ( I’m a teacher aide. I get minimum wage, no benefits.) 3. That we get morally upstanding politicians who have the faculties to run a government.

Church: 1. More love. 2. A cessation of pettiness, gossip, rash judgment and vengefulness. 3. An increase of reverence and reparation for the Blessed Sacrament. ( I sing in my parish choir. You’d be shocked at what goes on.)

God bless you. Great thread.🙂
 
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