If Jesus gave the keys to Peter, then I suppose Peter would have been preaching a false doctrine to the gentiles if it hadn’t been for Paul.
**Jesus did not give any keys to Paul. How was Peter teaching a false doctrine to the Gentiles? **
How do you know this? I think what matters is God’s grace. Period.
I have pointed to the many Scriptural passages that say just this. You have provided absolutely no Scriptural support for your dismissal of baptism. You keep saying things are “Scriptural” but have no Scripture on your side. “Scripture” to you means “what I think.”
Luther invented the idea of imputed righteousness. No one taught it before him. And yet Luther didn’t think it contradicted the view that grace is given in baptism. Of course you don’t have to agree with Luther–I only cite him as an example showing that sola fide and baptismal regeneration are compatible.
We don’t disagree on that. And if you had the slightest desire to listen or have a real discussion you would know that already. You have produced absolutely no evidence that faith and baptism are somehow in competition. Scripture never says it. Scripture says that we are saved by grace through faith, and it says that we are buried with Christ through baptism, baptized for the remission of our sins, etc. Many of us have no trouble putting these two things together. You are creating an artificial difficulty that does not exist in Scripture, simply as an excuse for dismissing the clear Word of God regarding the nature of baptism.
Yes, Jesus gave authority to His SERVANTS.
The context here is referring to the Apostles not disciples and servants in general.
Grace is offered to ALL in Jesus Christ. What matters to God is your faith. You will be rewarded with eternal life if you only believe the promise that God made to us through His Son.
We can start another thread on baptism. John baptized with water UNTO repentance. Jesus baptizes us with the Holy Spirit.
Luther didn’t invent that idea. The Word of God teaches imputed righteousness. Luther wasn’t the first. Don’t forget there were the Waldensians.
Did John the baptist EVER wash away sins?
And the context of Servants refers to the Apostles.
The context of servants refers to the servants.
Yet…
John was looking into the future… This future is the time when the Kingdom is going to be restored on earth. Those who have died “in Christ” will have their names already in the Book of Life. Only those who died with Biblical faith in Christ. Their rewards will be according to their works. Works of love not merit. Faith without works (of love as taken in context) is dead.
God gave Moses the Law. They weren’t obeying Moses… they were obeying God.
So when Peter told the people to be baptized for the remission of sins, that didn’t involve water? When Ananias told Paul, “Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins,” that didn’t involve water? This makes no sense.
No, it doesn’t. Romans 4 says that Abraham’s faith was imputed to him for righteousness. It does not say that Jesus’ righteousness is imputed to us, which is what Luther said.
The Waldensians did not teach imputed righteousness.
I was not talking about John’s baptism, although I wouldn’t give an unequivocal “no” to your question–he baptized people unto repentance for remission of sins, so clearly baptism played some role in the forgiveness of their sins. But we aren’t talking about burial with Christ, etc., when we talk about John’s baptism.
Yes faith without works is dead no matter what form the works take. Works of Merit can be Works of Love and vice versa.
They were obeying God thru the instrumentality of Moses.
I agree with you, but I think believers’ point was that works not motivated by love do nothing to vivify faith (or, in Protestant terms, works not motivated by love are no evidence of living faith and may be produced by a false, dead counterfeit of faith).
Thanks Edwin. Believers is under the mythcomception that Catholics believe the Works mentioned here mean Meritorius Works Alone.
A Question Believers. or maybe a few…
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his WORKS . Matt 16:27