If you have studied the Catholic Church & her Teachings from sources within the Catholic Church and as a result you did not become Catholic, Please Po

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I was born and went all through catholic schools, however, I married a baptist from a strong baptist family (brother is a baptist minister) other brother deacon in his church, so I kinda got the other perspective (Baptist) for the time we were married, I’m now reading “CATHOLIC ANSWERS TO FUNDAMENTALISTS’ QUESTIONS” it’s really opening my eyes back up to what I have always known…
 
Im not there yet.

Currently studying the catholic church from catholic sources but not yet fully convinced.

I dont think intellectually I ever will be.

Im praying for the Holy Spirit to make up the shortfall.
 
Because I’m single and feel ignored, written off, dismissed, told that I want to be “entertained” when I express my opinion about singles being ignored (I don’t recall anyone ever telling LifeTeen kids they want to be “entertained”), basically being treated like a second-class citizen… that’s why.

I would be and could be a world-class apologist who could make the likes of Tim Staples be unemployable in an instant, but I simply don’t feel it’s in my best interest any more to defend the Church that has all but abandoned me at the very time I would love to participate in the parish community: everything’s for families and kids and seniors. Singles don’t exist in the Catholic church, except as “vocation,” and that’s lip service: I never see any special diocesan masses said for singles.

I wish I had known when I was younger that the Catholic Church is no place for a single adult. (I don’t even go for Easter or Christmas, not even those days, either.)
 
Guyonthestreet said:
Im not there yet.

Currently studying the catholic church from catholic sources but not yet fully convinced.

I dont think intellectually I ever will be.

Im praying for the Holy Spirit to make up the shortfall.
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Hello Guy, Glad to know you are hanging in there, I believe there must be a point when you have just simply gotta let it all go and trust God.
We walk by faith and not by sight. God loves you and so do I let him love you in the whole truth, what do you have to lose?.;):)Carlan
 
havana1 said:
Because I’m single and feel ignored, written off, dismissed, told that I want to be “entertained” when I express my opinion about singles being ignored (I don’t recall anyone ever telling LifeTeen kids they want to be “entertained”), basically being treated like a second-class citizen… that’s why.

I would be and could be a world-class apologist who could make the likes of Tim Staples be unemployable in an instant, but I simply don’t feel it’s in my best interest any more to defend the Church that has all but abandoned me at the very time I would love to participate in the parish community: everything’s for families and kids and seniors. Singles don’t exist in the Catholic church, except as “vocation,” and that’s lip service: I never see any special diocesan masses said for singles.

I wish I had known when I was younger that the Catholic Church is no place for a single adult. (I don’t even go for Easter or Christmas, not even those days, either.)
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I’m sorry you feel that way. My parish has a very actice singles group that does things with singles groups in others parishes in our city. I wish you could find one like that. But don’t give up. The Church is not a social group, but you can still find companionship with other singles in another church. Have you tried another parish?
 
Having taken RCIA at my wife’s parish, one reason I did not convert is that many of their teachings seemed based on “because I said so”. Another reason was that I felt I was being taught falsehoods that made Catholicism look better - probably the reason for this was that the instructor was not properly trained. But, there are other reasons I did not choose to convert, which didn’t have anything to do with RCIA.
 
Guyonthestreet said:
Im not there yet.

Currently studying the catholic church from catholic sources but not yet fully convinced.

I dont think intellectually I ever will be.

Im praying for the Holy Spirit to make up the shortfall.
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Hey Guy,

Best of luck to you and God bless you! It isn’t easy grappling with these theological points and there are many stumbling blocks. I’m struggling like you are with some Catholic teachings and have been a bit of a dog chasing its tail at times as well. I’ve been back to my Anglican parish that I left seven years ago. I’ve been there for a while now but I truly feel the Catholic Church in my bones and I’m trying to open my heart to Her. There’s a pretty strong likelihood I’m going back to the RCC soon. There are a few obstacles and doubts I have but I’m just pluggin’ along. I wish you well and may God help guide you! 👍
 
Went all the way through RCIA after I married my Catholic wife but did not convert. I have to agree with the “I said so,” sentiment someone else mentioned. Intellectually I was unconvinced. Spiritually, I was unmoved. Emotionally, I felt like a cog in a machine while in the class. On the social agenda, I found myself very much out of step and truly felt bound by my own conscience to maintain my position on many things. I am involved with my wife’s church and the school, but I can’t see a time where I would ever become a Catholic.
 
Lutheranteach said:
Went all the way through RCIA after I married my Catholic wife but did not convert. I have to agree with the “I said so,” sentiment someone else mentioned. Intellectually I was unconvinced. Spiritually, I was unmoved. Emotionally, I felt like a cog in a machine while in the class. On the social agenda, I found myself very much out of step and truly felt bound by my own conscience to maintain my position on many things. I am involved with my wife’s church and the school, but I can’t see a time where I would ever become a Catholic.
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Hi Lutheranteach,

What Lutheran church are you with, wels, lcms or elca? I notice your screen name has teach in it. What grade do you teach? 🙂
 
havana1 said:
Because I’m single and feel ignored, written off, dismissed, told that I want to be “entertained” when I express my opinion about singles being ignored (I don’t recall anyone ever telling LifeTeen kids they want to be “entertained”), basically being treated like a second-class citizen… that’s why.

I would be and could be a world-class apologist who could make the likes of Tim Staples be unemployable in an instant, but I simply don’t feel it’s in my best interest any more to defend the Church that has all but abandoned me at the very time I would love to participate in the parish community: everything’s for families and kids and seniors. Singles don’t exist in the Catholic church, except as “vocation,” and that’s lip service: I never see any special diocesan masses said for singles.
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Oh my God, you poor baby. What kind of a church would abandon a single in their midst. I don’t blame you for kicking them to the curb. After all, the faith was made specifically for you and how dare they snub you. Why your talents as an apologist alone are worth their weight in gold. Bad old Catholic Church, with their stupid St. Vincent De Paul Society and Knights of Columbus. Jerks.
 
gurneyhalleck1 said:
Hi Lutheranteach,

What Lutheran church are you with, wels, lcms or elca? I notice your screen name has teach in it. What grade do you teach? 🙂
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I am ELCA but have a number of relatives that are LCMS. My wife is Catholic. I teach grades 7-12 Humanities and Language Arts as well as a number of electives. I teach at parochial, private and public schools
 
Lutheranteach said:
I am ELCA but have a number of relatives that are LCMS. My wife is Catholic. I teach grades 7-12 Humanities and Language Arts as well as a number of electives. I teach at parochial, private and public schools
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Wow, I’m impressed. Public only here. 31 sixth graders is all I can handle at this point in life! LOL and not to mention a 3, 2 and almost one-year old at home! LOL
 
Lutheranteach said:
Went all the way through RCIA after I married my Catholic wife but did not convert. I have to agree with the “I said so,” sentiment someone else mentioned. Intellectually I was unconvinced. Spiritually, I was unmoved. Emotionally, I felt like a cog in a machine while in the class. On the social agenda, I found myself very much out of step and truly felt bound by my own conscience to maintain my position on many things. I am involved with my wife’s church and the school, but I can’t see a time where I would ever become a Catholic.
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Hello Lutheranteach

Can you explain, in more detail, the bolded part please?

God bless you
 
Lutheranteach said:
birth control, limited abortion rights, capital punishment, stem cell research
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Thanks Lutheranteach. I actually thought that this is what you were referring to after I read your post to gurney where you identified yourself as ELCA. I read that post after I had posted.

As a ELCA are you free to have differing opinions on these matters? For instance can someone be in good standing with the ELCA and consider birth control (contraceptions) morally wrong?

Thank you for clarifying. God bless
 
Raised in the Lutheran Church; married to a Catholic wife; go to mass with her every Sunday (and Holy Days if she remembers); presently pretty much of an agnostic. I went through RCIA until about a month before Easter when Father took me aside and inquired, “Hey Rick, I forgot to ask. Were you and (wife) married in the Church?” Of course, everything came to a grinding halt at that time. Honestly, I was relieved. I realized that I was just going through the motions for my wife.

Although I actually enjoyed learning about the Church in RCIA, as one who struggles with God, I found that many Church teachings and beliefs have no meaning for me without an underlying belief in a supreme being. Even if I could come to terms with God, I doubt that I could ever become Catholic. Church teachings on issues such as birth control, stem cell research, sexuality, papal authority, real presence, etc., just don’t ring true to me.

I am, however, a big believer in after-mass donuts. 👍
 
Roman_Catholic said:
Thanks Lutheranteach. I actually thought that this is what you were referring to after I read your post to gurney where you identified yourself as ELCA. I read that post after I had posted.

As a ELCA are you free to have differing opinions on these matters? For instance can someone be in good standing with the ELCA and consider birth control (contraceptions) morally wrong?

Thank you for clarifying. God bless
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Yes. You are quite free to have very differing opinions. I do believe one could be an ELCA member and oppose birth control. Then again, the view of Lutherans, and most protestants is that sex is a part of marital relationships and goes beyond procreation and that couples are to make responsible decisions regarding procreation encompassing abstinence, birth control, natural family planning, or voluntary sterilization.
 
Lutheranteach said:
Yes. You are quite free to have very differing opinions. I do believe one could be an ELCA member and oppose birth control. Then again, the view of Lutherans, and most protestants is that sex is a part of marital relationships and goes beyond procreation and that couples are to make responsible decisions regarding procreation encompassing abstinence, birth control, natural family planning, or voluntary sterilization.
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Thank you for answering my questions. I won’t high jack this thread any further.

Thanks and God bless
 
SingleMomMonica said:
This is ***not ***a thread for people who have only obtained & researched information about the Catholic Church from non-Catholic sources.
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My spiritual journey is a bit different than what you are asking. I was born Catholic. I received all my information from nuns and priests. After 50 years I left the Catholic church and became protestant. Does my journey fit into your question? God Bless. NLM
 
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