Ignorance is truly salvation

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Is ignorance reason for salvation? It seems the more I learn the more I’m condemned when in the state of sin.
 
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the more you learn; it seems there should be less reason for you to be in a condition of sin…
 
Aquinas reasoned it as ignorance, which is not invincible ignorance, can be either no sin at all or it is a mortal sin. Example of the latter, use of contraception for a long period of time can be a mortal sin even if one is ignorant because of neglect of conscience.

Neglect of conscience is a mortal sin, if it is allowed to persist in a long period of neglectful behavior.
 
I think the issue you are concerned about is “imputability” of disordered actions.
It rests not only on understanding (which is more than external “hearing”) but also full consent of the will (mitigated by passion or habit in some cases).

These are the principles. What qualifies for “full consent”, “full understanding”, “habit” and “passion” is where it starts getting complicated.
 
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Ignorance - is bliss - I’ve heard people say. It’s not true.
Bliss IS NOT found - in ignorance.
It’s certainly not found in a continual state of sin.
You may think it’s bliss - lol - I’m sorry, but I have to smile and laugh right now as I type that -

You got the word wrong - you say " condemned " -
think of it more as " corrected from " .
 
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Is ignorance reason for salvation? It seems the more I learn the more I’m condemned when in the state of sin.
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“…For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.” (Luke 12:48)

PS: I’ll admit that my selfish/sinful nature wishes that i were more ignorant sometimes :roll_eyes:
 
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Is ignorance reason for salvation? It seems the more I learn the more I’m condemned when in the state of sin.
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Take the case of the unbaptized infants that die. The best we can have is hope for them, not certainty as with the baptized (water, blood, desire) that die in the state of grace.

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1791 This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility. This is the case when a man “takes little trouble to find out what is true and good, or when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin.” [Gaudium et Spes 16] In such cases, the person is culpable for the evil he commits.
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Knowing the truth about the moral law or what God has revealed is never harmful. As St. Paul asks rhetorically, “Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?”

Ignorance is only an excuse for culpability when the ignorant person is otherwise properly disposed toward the truth. If you seek to know and conform your behavior to the moral law and the revelation of God as you come to learn it, whatever it may be, then there is no sin in ignorance. To such a person, the truth is a gift that fulfills their desire and frees them from the darkness of ignorance. As Jesus says “Every one who is of the truth, hears my voice” and “you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

If you prefer to follow your own opinions no matter what the truth is, then ignorance would not be an excuse.
 
Haha!Truly, the more we are given, the more is expected of us.

Ignorant, how much can be expected of you? Oh, but do not think this is nothing!
For we have the Way, the Life, the Truth! Why sin? Indeed, we are blessed and can reach a higher holiness. Thankful we should be.
 
Salvation, enlightenment, liberation, etc… can only be attained through knowledge and wisdom not through ignorance. 🙂
 
Man has in his heart the moral law written so that he is without excuse.
 
isn’t that a great catch 22, if you are as ignorant as it comes the Catholic Church writes all kinds of stipulations and passes. Then once you become Catholic, bada boom now you have " original sin ", hepatitis B , blurred vision, and a plethora of other problems. And you forefit all rights to common sense.
 
The more you know, the more culpable you are. The less you know, the less culpable but everyone is culpable/accountable to one degree or another because we all, generally speaking, at least know the difference between right and wrong. So it all balances out in the end; God judges us based on what we do with what we’re given, including knowledge, but it’s certainly not going to amount to being more prone to punishment just because we know more.
 
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The more you learn the more happy you should be. Ignorance is whats causing increasing suicides, depression and anxiety in the west where people have all their material needs met yet yearn for more without realizing what it is they yearn for
 
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