Ignoring One Hour Fast=Mortal Sin?

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I am not trying to excuse my morning behavior…however I have a chronic health problem and there are mornings that I wake up in a complete fog from not having slept well that night. Knowing I am not clear headed nor alert I do take that extra sip of coffee before heading out the door for daily Mass. Now that I know that is a mortal sin I will refrain from receiving Holy Communion.

I am praying that I can understand how that would destroy my relationship with God just as other obvious mortal sins do. That is the part that I will pray hard to fully understand…because right now I do not see them (one hour fast vs. murder/abortion/stealing etc…) as equally mortally sinful acts.
Hi,

Perhaps you should discuss this with a priest, either in or out of confession. Is it a health issue, or just a want, or just an absent-minded sip, without realizing the time?

If you don’t have time for coffee an hour before communion, and you feel you need it, maybe you need to revise your schedule. if you just didn’t realize the time, just try to be more aware. I really don’t think a sip of coffee would be grave disrepect, unless possibly it was just done out of defiance.

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To recieve the Eucharist in an unworthy manner is listed as grave matter in many places and exams of conscience.

scborromeo.org/confess.htm

If you are to break the fast and still recieve, that is an unworthy reception. Unworthy reception is grave matter which may be mortal sin.
Are all the sins listed here grave matter? If so, I can’t imagine that I’d ever make it to mass 2 days in a row without confession. How many of us can say we never got angry or impatient? That we have loved God with an undivided heart at all times? I’m concerned now that I may have been receiving unworthily for a long time.
 
You guys must have really long homilies. 🙂

Around here, at a daily Mass, Holy Communion usually occurs after 15 minutes, and if it’s a regular Sunday Mass, it’s somewhere between half an hour and 45 minutes.
We’ve had a 45 minute Daily Mass once (and that wasn’t a holiday like Thanksgiving). Really long homily that day. 😉 Most of the time, the homilies on Sunday are medium length, so it’s about an hour for Mass. We probably have 800-1000 people (which is a rough estimate) at the 9:00am Mass. (The 10:30am Mass - folk mass - is even larger. More kids and teens.)
 
I agree with post about talking to a priest…why would you or anyone who is so concerned as to whether something is a mortal sin or not ask a bunch of strangers rather than just go to your priest? Whether it be at confession or on the phone. There are times when I go to confession I ask if something is a sin or not and I also ask for guidance about issues in my life…And then also review your catechism-or get one of those old baltimore catechism books we used as kids and get back to the basics…
 
I agree with post about talking to a priest…why would you or anyone who is so concerned as to whether something is a mortal sin or not ask a bunch of strangers rather than just go to your priest?
I think it’s because online is a bit more anonymous than face-to-face.
 
I think it’s because online is a bit more anonymous than face-to-face.
Problem is…in this forum, everyone has different takes on every subject. Some are based on church teaching, some are based on opinion. Some answers come from conservatives, some from liberals, some are from non-Catholics. LOL, better to just google the church documents yourself, ha.
 
LOL, there could be a cases of someone having skipped meals and almost fainting or someone who needs to eat because of blood glucose problems.
such a person is not and never was bound by fasting discipline in any case. read OP’s title and post, deliberately ignoring the fast for no good reason
 
Are all the sins listed here grave matter? If so, I can’t imagine that I’d ever make it to mass 2 days in a row without confession. How many of us can say we never got angry or impatient? That we have loved God with an undivided heart at all times? I’m concerned now that I may have been receiving unworthily for a long time.
One can find many good exams of conscience out there - going through one each day helps us in our growth. Remember, many of the most holy people confess often, some daily.

newadvent.org/cathen/05675a.htm

ewtn.com/library/SPIRIT/EXAMCONS.TXT

74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:1r5i29-OgXMJ:www.kofc.org/rc/en/publications/cis/devotional/GuideToConfession2075.pdf+examination+of+conscience&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=us
 
You guys must have really long homilies. 🙂

Around here, at a daily Mass, Holy Communion usually occurs after 15 minutes, and if it’s a regular Sunday Mass, it’s somewhere between half an hour and 45 minutes.
That’s what I was thinking 😃

At any Mass I’ve ever been to, even if the Mass lasts for about an hour (as they do at the local parish) the odds are good that part of that hour will be the post-communion moments of prayer and the priest’s last few words afterwards, followed by the closing prayers, followed by the hymn and recessional. Thus one would have to have eaten at least fifteen minutes before the Mass in order to be sure (and even then, unless they were timing it, it’s iffy) that they hadn’t eaten in an hour when Communion time comes.
I am not trying to excuse my morning behavior…however I have a chronic health problem and there are mornings that I wake up in a complete fog from not having slept well that night. Knowing I am not clear headed nor alert I do take that extra sip of coffee before heading out the door for daily Mass. Now that I know that is a mortal sin I will refrain from receiving Holy Communion.
If it’s possible at all, try going to the church earlier, so you’ll have maybe half an hour to pray and read the scriptures; unless the church is right next door, that’ll add, besides the time dedicated to prayer and reading, the time (perhaps brief) that it takes to get there. All this will automatically give you a half-hour to forty-five minute buffer as well as enrich your prayer life. In other words, aside from the wonderful advantage of having spent time before the blessed sacrament in the tabernacle, it will be more likely that a full hour will have passed by the time you go to receive Communion if you eat or drink anything at the last minute before leaving home. Check the time just before Communion to make sure (at least the first time: Some Masses may be quite faster than those I’m used to), but once you find a system that works, it may really help.
I am praying that I can understand how that would destroy my relationship with God just as other obvious mortal sins do. That is the part that I will pray hard to fully understand…because right now I do not see them (one hour fast vs. murder/abortion/stealing etc…) as equally mortally sinful acts.
It’s the full intent of it, I believe. Someone who consciously refuses to observe the fast is being obstinate. Even the smallest and most venial of sins can become mortal, I believe, if they are done in deliberate or “I don’t care” defiance. Because such proud or careless defiance in itself is grave, it seems to me. If I understand correctly, the length of the fast would be relative if not for the Church discipline (it used to be since the previous midnight that Catholics had to fast before receiving Communion) but the act of casting aside a Church discipline is Grave. There’s something in the Scriptures that says something along the lines of “He who is faithful with little will be entrusted with much.” One must be faithful with “little,” the disciplines of the Church even though they are subject to change, before one can be entrusted with “much,” in this case the awesome privelege of receiving our Lord in the Eucharist. Also, consider that to deliberately cast the One Hour Fast to the wind is to question the legitimate authority that Christ gave the Church, since it is She who prescribes the Fast. Such would be an indirect attack on Christ’s authority, if there are any questions remaining about the gravity of such an act if deliberately done.

Now, the very fact that you care enough to ask this question makes me believe you are not deliberately or carelessly doing this, which means in the past you have probably not sinned mortally with this (it never hurts to bring it up to confession if you feel inclined, though). You wish to amend this error, and you are right (I believe) to refrain from Communion if you realize “Hey, it hasn’t been an hour since I’ve eaten.” The only exception, if I recall correctly, is in fact if you had to eat for Health reasons. Even without health reasons, however, if you have received communion and then realize it hadn’t been an hour since you’d eaten, I again do not believe that constitutes deliberate or careless defiance.

I hope this helps!

Peace in Christ,
KindredSoul
 
Just so everyone understands ~ my OP refers to drinking coffee only…I have never intetionally ignored the one hour fast to eat while going out the door for daily Mass. There are many faithful Catholics who do not consider the drinking of coffee as breaking the one hour fast…and now that I am in full knowledge of the mortal sin of this…that is where I am truly struggling with the fact that this one sip of coffee drank totally destroys my relationship with God as does other well known mortal sins…I know for those of you that have the heart sense of this mortal sin you may be shaking your head at me…however it is still in my head and has not moved into my heart.

One other point of interest…our Church asks us to fast for one hour before receiving Holy Communion to prepare ourselves ~ however Jesus truly is present within us for about 15 minutes and we are not asked to in any way fast for that time. In fact I have only heard from one priest in my entire life a strong reminder of that fact.
 
That doesn’t make it a mortal sin, though. I would think that saying “Screw it, I need a bagel” and eating before mass would be a mortal sin, but I would imagine that breaking the fast by accident is not a mortal sin. Full knowledge and consent is required for a mortal sin, and I think going blank and drinking a cup of coffee in the car would merely be a venial sin.

You can’t sin mortally on accident, can you?
No, but at the same time, I do think that Jesus stays with us a bit longer if He isn’t in competition with something else that’s also inside of us. Keep in mind, He stays with us until the accidents of the bread and wine are fully dissolved.

Part of the danger of not observing the fast is the tendency to then think of Jesus as being just some more ordinary food. By making a conscious effort to fast beforehand, we elevate Jesus to something more important - we become more conscious of just how sacred He is.
 
Just so everyone understands ~ my OP refers to drinking coffee only…I have never intetionally ignored the one hour fast to eat while going out the door for daily Mass. There are many faithful Catholics who do not consider the drinking of coffee as breaking the one hour fast…and now that I am in full knowledge of the mortal sin of this…that is where I am truly struggling with the fact that this one sip of coffee drank totally destroys my relationship with God as does other well known mortal sins…I know for those of you that have the heart sense of this mortal sin you may be shaking your head at me…however it is still in my head and has not moved into my heart.
I don’t think you’ve committed a mortal sin, though. You can’t accidentally commit a mortal sin, which requires full knowledge. If you thought that drinking coffee wasn’t breaking the fast, than at worst you committed a venial sin (at worst!), because you didn’t possess full knowledge.

You’d have to be obstinate about it for it to be a mortal sin, which would mean you’d have to consciously think about the fast, say to yourself "Its not that important; I don’t need to fast today.’ and have a bagel knowing full well that’s not what you should be doing.

That doesn’t describe your case at all. It didn’t destroy or damage your relationship with God in any way. If you think it will help, go ahead and confess it, but you didn’t commit a mortal sin.
 
As I continue to ponder all this ~ does anyone agree with me that it does just seem a tad out of balance to think that a sip of coffee done with full intent rests on equal plane with other moral sins?

How do I wrap my heart around this? This is what I am struggling with? One sip of coffee=murder…they both totally destroy my relationship with my Loving Father. I know you will say they both fulfill the three requirments for mortal sin…but the level of harm? It just seems way out of balance. Please pray for me.
 
You cannot commit a mortal sin “by accident”.

You did not know what was required for worthy reception of the Eucharist, so, if you did recieve unworthily, you did it accidently.

Speak with your Priest.
 
As I continue to ponder all this ~ does anyone agree with me that it does just seem a tad out of balance to think that a sip of coffee done with full intent rests on equal plane with other moral sins?

How do I wrap my heart around this?
I agree with you. It seems ridiculous to me. I don’t think it is mortal sin frankly. So far since your first OP I haven’t seen anyone really prove it is a mortal sin.

The Catechism seems very clear what is Mortal sin. I don’t see how sipping coffee and breaking a fast is a grave matter. Perhaps a venial sin, yes. “Venial sin allows charity to subsist, even though it offends and wounds it”.
1858 Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: "Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother."132 The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger.
I would not take peoples word for things in here, as well intentioned as they might be. You really should ask a priest and I would read the whole section in the catechism on mortal sin. Don’t take peoples cut and pastiness as gospel 😉
 
As I continue to ponder all this ~ does anyone agree with me that it does just seem a tad out of balance to think that a sip of coffee done with full intent rests on equal plane with other moral sins?

How do I wrap my heart around this? This is what I am struggling with? One sip of coffee=murder…they both totally destroy my relationship with my Loving Father. I know you will say they both fulfill the three requirments for mortal sin…but the level of harm? It just seems way out of balance. Please pray for me.
Take out “one sip of coffee” and say instead “deliberately and with full knowledge breaking the rule on Eucharistic fasting”. That may make it easier to understand.

Since you didn’t have full knowledge in the past, your prior actions are not something to worry about. It’s a different thing entirely if you wish to continue breaking the rule going forward, because then full knowledge and intent come into play. We’re supposed to follow all the rules, not just the ones we find personally convenient.

As many have already said, talk to your priest if you continue to have any uncertainty in the matter.
 
How do I wrap my heart around this?
By realizing that even the slightest insult to God is worse than anything you could ever do to another human being, including murder. The reason is that God is our Creator, and we owe Him gratitude for every breath that we take, and every pulse of our hearts.
 
You might want to give the Apostolic Constitution a read:

CHRISTUS DOMINUS
Concerning The Discipline To Be Observed With Respect To The Eucharistic Fast****Pope Pius XII


ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/P12CHDOM.HTM
Thanks for the link. I’ve just finished reading the Letter.
Unfortunately it covers everything except the type of sin it is for breaking such a fast.

Personally I would view breaking such a fast and receiving Communion as a grave sin as I see it as an insult to our Lord. However, culpability would be reduced if someone did not know about the fast requirement (and to my surprise I know many Catholics [all cradle] who did not know about the rule).
 
As I continue to ponder all this ~ does anyone agree with me that it does just seem a tad out of balance to think that a sip of coffee done with full intent rests on equal plane with other moral sins?
Think of it this way…to deliberately break the fast (“done with full intent”) is disobeying the Church Discipline, and thus disobeying God. It’s similar to a child who deliberately does something you tell them not to, because they don’t care about your rules. No matter how small the act, it’s gravely insulting because their very intention is to devalue the parent’s authority. It’s not, say, eating the cookie before lunch that’s so grave in such a case; it’s the silent proclamation that “Your authority is no big deal to me.” We do the same thing to the Church (and thus to God who gaver Her the authority) when we break the fast “with full intent,” quite regardless of how bad the action itself would or wouldn’t be without the Church discipline in place.
How do I wrap my heart around this? This is what I am struggling with? One sip of coffee=murder…they both totally destroy my relationship with my Loving Father. I know you will say they both fulfill the three requirments for mortal sin…but the level of harm? It just seems way out of balance. Please pray for me.
I’m neither saying nor denying “One sip of coffee=murder” in itself, as that’s irrelevant. Not every mortal sin is on the same level. It is true, all unconfessed mortal sins can find an uncontrite soul in Hell, but the Church has always taught (to my understanding) that certain mortal sins are graver than others. In the eyes of some, breaking the fast intentionally is worse than murder, due to it involving a careless or deliberate slight against the Eucharist (God incarnate Himself); others may consider murder worse. My own opinion is irrelevant to what you’re trying to figure out, because either way, whether it’s as bad, worse, or less severe than murder has nothing to do with whether or not it’s a mortal sin. Even something that’s barely a mortal sin is still, after all, a mortal sin. A sin could be far less grave than murder, and yet it could still be grave enough to be mortal. Being “as bad as murder” simply isn’t by any stretch of the imagination the standard for determining what is and isn’t mortal sin.

For another analogy, if your spouse cheats on you continually and unrepentantly, that may quite constitute grounds for separation and alienate her/him from your heart (when it comes to the sort of love between a man and a woman). Now, she/he could also murder your entire family and threaten to do this to you, and have the same effect (more drastically). But that doesn’t mean that the former offense is any less capable of destroying the marriage just because the latter is even more so. I’m not necessarily comparing breaking the Fast to adultery, I’m just showing that offenses of different gravity can have the same separating effects on a relationship. So to get back to the literal topic, murder is exceptionally grave compared with many other mortal sins; but that doesn’t mean lesser (but still grave) sins aren’t bad enough to be grave.

Hope that makes sense.

Peace in Christ,
KindredSoul
 
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