'I'll make it quick", said the woman ahead of me on the confession line

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“That woman ahead of us takes so long,” she whispered to me, conspiratorially. “Confession is for only 15 minutes, today. I’ll make it quick.”

And quick she made it and smiled at me as she left.

I smiled back, went inside the confessional and confessed my sins in a hurried whisper. I did ask the priest one question and he started answering me in a gentle voice then realized the time and said he had to go. It was time for mass. He seemed sorry. So I was asked to say the Act of Contrition outside, before my penance, although he did absolve me.

Is this how confession is supposed to be?

I don’t expect priests to wait in empty confessionals for an hour, with nary a visitor, but do people not confess because of modernism or don’t they because there aren’t enough confession times?

Surely, if we build it, they will come?

There must be a solution besides “make an appointment”.
 
Is it like that every time, or did something happen that held the priest up and so there was a only a little time?
 
Is it like that every time, or did something happen that held the priest up and so there was a only a little time?
Confession is supposed to be about 30 minutes before mass at that Church, but the times I have been there, it hasn’t started until about 15 minutes before.
 
Scheduled confession times vary…could be an hour each week or half hour or 45 minutes …or even daily…some places it is from morning til evening (with different Priests hearing of course…)

But yes if one needs to take a good deal of time…best to schedule an appointment.
 
Scheduled confession times vary…could be an hour each week or half hour or 45 minutes …or even daily…some places it is from morning til evening (with different Priests hearing of course…)

But yes if one needs to take a good deal of time…best to schedule an appointment.
Two weeks ago, I wanted to go to confession. There was a woman in the confessional bawling. She was in there for a good 10 minutes before I gave up and left because confession was going to end in about 2 minutes. I figured she needed it more than I did at that point.

My point is that for working people, I think it’s hard to get in a confession.
 
Two weeks ago, I wanted to go to confession. There was a woman in the confessional bawling. She was in there for a good 10 minutes before I gave up and left because confession was going to end in about 2 minutes. I figured she needed it more than I did at that point.

My point is that for working people, I think it’s hard to get in a confession.
One can always call a Priest and stop by …or ask the Priest after Mass etc.

Also Monasteries and Shrines…and the Cathedral often have more confession times.
 
At my parish confession is after the weekday masses, not before mass. The advantage of this is that there is no hurry for you or the priest. He intentionally has nothing planned for immediately after mass, and I’ve never had anyone else besides me show up for confession the same day.

The disadvantage of course is that you can’t go to mass and receive communion afterwards. You either have to go to mass before, with your confession hanging over you and not able to receive communion if you are not confident you are in a state of grace, or come in right after the mass is over and catch the priest before he leaves. That and the fact that it’s in the middle of the weekday, when most people have to be at work
 
Have you thought about giving the priest some feedback? “Father, we sure would appreciate it if you made more time available for confession.” If he hears positive feedback from several people, he might respond in kind. Good priests love to hear confessions. Our newly ordained PV has told me, “I just love to offer this sacrament and see people absolved and reconciled with God.”

We used to have confession every Saturday, for about 90 minutes before Vigil Mass. During Lent, our rector added another 45 minutes during Adoration and before Benediction on Thursdays, and decided to continue the practice. Through the summer, we had 8 or 10 people in line max for Thursday confessions. This past week, we had 17 people lined up 10 minutes prior to the start, and he heard confessions for 90 minutes straight. Yes, if you build it, they will come. I think that more charitable feedback to Father that, indeed, they will come, is helpful.

You know, the “they can always make an appointment” is a copout, in my opinion. That might work for folks close to the sacraments. But not so much for people long away. I’ve seen many, many people in the line at the confessional who are knock-kneed at the thought of going to an anonymous confession and wouldn’t return to the sacrament via a non-anonymous, face-to-face appointment. My rector says that he gets a penitent at least once a week who is returning after 20 - 30 years away from the sacrament. They don’t make appointments. They barely make it into the church, often after several attempts.

By the way, when I am in line behind someone taking what seems to be an excessive time, I just assume that it’s a long-away returnee and pray thanksgiving to God for another soul rescued from the grasp of the evil one.
 
My parish of 3000 families has confession on Saturdays for 30 minutes before the vigil Mass. I do think if it were offered more often more people would avail themselves.
 
At my parish there are confessions 30 minutes before weekday afternoon Masses and an hour on Saturdays. So one can go any day except Sunday for confession.

What I have found though, is that on weekdays, you’d better plan on getting there at least 10 or 15 minutes before confession time is supposed to start. There is usually a group of people waiting, and if you get there too late, you’ll be at the end of the line and might not get your confession heard.

I would say that most people take about two minutes for confession, and quite often the priest will have the penitent say the act of contrition outside the confessional to save time. And of course if some penitent wants to have a long conversation, the chances of everybody not being heard increases.

Sometimes a second priest will come out to assist. But that is not always possible. Sometimes the priest will resume hearing confessions after Mass, but that is not always possible either. The priests here are very busy.

I was at afternoon Mass today, and when I arrived, about 20 minutes early, I noticed a line of people waiting at the confessional. The priest managed to hear most of their confessions, but when it was time for him to begin Mass, he had to leave the confessional, and there were about four people left.
 
“That woman ahead of us takes so long,” she whispered to me, conspiratorially. “Confession is for only 15 minutes, today. I’ll make it quick.”

And quick she made it and smiled at me as she left.

I smiled back, went inside the confessional and confessed my sins in a hurried whisper. I did ask the priest one question and he started answering me in a gentle voice then realized the time and said he had to go. It was time for mass. He seemed sorry. So I was asked to say the Act of Contrition outside, before my penance, although he did absolve me.

Is this how confession is supposed to be?

I don’t expect priests to wait in empty confessionals for an hour, with nary a visitor, but do people not confess because of modernism or don’t they because there aren’t enough confession times?

Surely, if we build it, they will come?

There must be a solution besides “make an appointment”.
Last year I went 5 weeks, standing in line after line, and kept being turned away when Confession was over. I don’t go to confession as often as I would like; or as often as my soul needs, because of the lines and lack of priests.
 
“That woman ahead of us takes so long,” she whispered to me, conspiratorially. “Confession is for only 15 minutes, today. I’ll make it quick.”

And quick she made it and smiled at me as she left.

I smiled back, went inside the confessional and confessed my sins in a hurried whisper. I did ask the priest one question and he started answering me in a gentle voice then realized the time and said he had to go. It was time for mass. He seemed sorry. So I was asked to say the Act of Contrition outside, before my penance, although he did absolve me.

Is this how confession is supposed to be?

I don’t expect priests to wait in empty confessionals for an hour, with nary a visitor, but do people not confess because of modernism or don’t they because there aren’t enough confession times?

Surely, if we build it, they will come?

There must be a solution besides “make an appointment”.
If she has a short list to confess, why does she have to take longer than she has to? I hate to put it in such a blunt way and I must apologize for this, but at the end of the day if this woman takes 2 minutes or 120 minutes, its none of your business.
 
I don’t expect priests to wait in empty confessionals for an hour, with nary a visitor, but do people not confess because of modernism or don’t they because there aren’t enough confession times?
I think there’s a bit of both going on. A lot of people I know don’t view Confession as something they actually have to do anymore. I’ve told people that the Church requires you to go at least once a year, and have gotten reactions ranging from disbelief, to “Oh, they don’t mean that!” When I told one friend that he’s not supposed to take Communion with any mortal sins on his conscience, he told me that wasn’t true and wanted to know what idiot told me that. I told another friend that I’d been to Confession three times already this year and she scoffed at the notion and wanted to know why on earth I’d do that. She couldn’t understand what my problem was and told me I didn’t need to be spending that much time in a confessional. When I told this to another fairly devout friend, instead of being surprised at my other friend’s reaction, he asked, “Overdoing it a little bit, aren’t you?”

At the same time, I think a lot of parishes have really cut back on their open Confession times. I don’t know if this is a result of or part of the cause of the problem. My parish has one 30-minute open Confession each month, and a couple other local parishes aren’t much better. A few of them have 30 minutes each Saturday. I tried going to one and there was nobody there–not even a priest. I went to a different church and was the only person who showed up. I’m not a fan of scheduling an appointment for Confession, and don’t like having to track down Confession times then drive an hour out of my way, so I can see how the reduced times could really lead to apathy.
 
I think there’s a bit of both going on. A lot of people I know don’t view Confession as something they actually have to do anymore. I’ve told people that the Church requires you to go at least once a year, and have gotten reactions ranging from disbelief, to “Oh, they don’t mean that!” When I told one friend that he’s not supposed to take Communion with any mortal sins on his conscience, he told me that wasn’t true and wanted to know what idiot told me that. I told another friend that I’d been to Confession three times already this year and she scoffed at the notion and wanted to know why on earth I’d do that. She couldn’t understand what my problem was and told me I didn’t need to be spending that much time in a confessional. When I told this to another fairly devout friend, instead of being surprised at my other friend’s reaction, he asked, “Overdoing it a little bit, aren’t you?”
Wow.

But if one is only required to go once a year, that would explain why people don’t go. Is that the case? I thought communion was required once a year. Are we not advised to go to confession whenever necessary?

This comes down to what is being taught Sunday after Sunday. If there is no mention of how important confession is, then people are not going to necessarily know that.
I can see how the reduced times could really lead to apathy.
Yeah and discouragement too. I go to this parish for confession because it is walking distance from my job.
Last year I went 5 weeks, standing in line after line, and kept being turned away when Confession was over. I don’t go to confession as often as I would like; or as often as my soul needs, because of the lines and lack of priests.
Exactly.
 
At my parish confession is after the weekday masses, not before mass. The advantage of this is that there is no hurry for you or the priest. He intentionally has nothing planned for immediately after mass, and I’ve never had anyone else besides me show up for confession the same day.

The disadvantage of course is that you can’t go to mass and receive communion afterwards. You either have to go to mass before, with your confession hanging over you and not able to receive communion if you are not confident you are in a state of grace, or come in right after the mass is over and catch the priest before he leaves. That and the fact that it’s in the middle of the weekday, when most people have to be at work
I could live with it being after the mass. Sometimes I want to confess some venial sins, so I could still receive communion.

If it’s something more serious, then I wouldn’t receive, but attending the mass would convince me even more of my sin and I’d be relieved to be able to confess.
 
It is a combination of a shortage of priests and huge dose of modernism. Most adults under sixty have been catechized under a culture that has been largely shorn from its Catholic roots, and most people either don’t know (“Wow! I hadn’t heard that before!”) or don’t care (“They don’t really mean that!”) what the Church teaches on this or many other matters.

On the priestly front, not only the shortage plays into it, but the bureaucracy. So many pastors have been turned into administrators and accountants, attending numerous meetings at the diocesan and parish levels. Their days are taken up with a good deal of CYA, red tape and other factory functions that they do not have much time for the primary reason of the priesthood: Mass and the sacraments, along with truly pastoral work (visiting families, tending the sick, etc.). This is not the fault of the priests; it is a secular trend that permeated the Church and began to dictate the expectations of bishops and others. However, I am convinced that for a priest today to be truly holy, truly pastoral and truly sacramental, he needs to buck the trend a bit and take command of his daily schedule. The priests today that I know who do this are the ones who make themselves available in the confessional, for annointing of the sick, funeral home visits, etc. These are their priorities, and while they occasionally fudge on the administrative aspects, they do not completely neglect them, but they see the salvation of souls at the top priority. They usually are not the types who become bishops (or even monsignori), but occasionally they do. Either way they see their roles in common with the saints of centuries past, not in contrast

As for the modernism, people have been so poorly catechized that many honestly believe that they do not need to confess very often, if at all. In an attempt to “update” teaching methodologies, the sense of sin was de-emphasized and personal guilt overlooked in favor of social and corporate sin. Nations and corporations and even the Church are guilty of XYZ, but individuals never seem to be. For some people this is simply a matter of aloofness, i.e., no one has ever taught them otherwise. Westerners in general, and Americans in particular, have lived in relatively prosperous societies that have much to say about the pursuit of wealth and pleasure, but little about personal obligations. Consumerism fills the void created by the absence of a moral compass. Unfortunately, many seminaries, and therefore many priests, bought into this and the result has been the eroding of a sense of personal sin and the obligation to confess.

Yes, if you build it, they will come. My parish priests hear confessions every day, seven days a week, before every Mass, and with slots scheduled during a weekly holy hour, plus Saturday morning. The result is that there is always someone confessing, even though it is a small parish. They have been trained and nurtured this way. Sure, there are a few scrupulous types who need periodic prompting, and the pastor does this with confession cathechesis printed in the bulletin, and occasionally from the pulpit. And I don’t mean just EF priests. The holy priests that have motivated me, EF or OF, have believed in preaching about the importance of confession, and then making themselves available in the confessional, regardless of what meetings and events were occurring in the parish and diocese. It may be a matter of reclaiming our priests as sacramental celebrants, teachers and pastors, above all else.
 
It is a combination of a shortage of priests and huge dose of modernism. Most adults under sixty have been catechized under a culture that has been largely shorn from its Catholic roots, and most people either don’t know (“Wow! I hadn’t heard that before!”) or don’t care (“They don’t really mean that!”) what the Church teaches on this or many other matters.

On the priestly front, not only the shortage plays into it, but the bureaucracy. So many pastors have been turned into administrators and accountants, attending numerous meetings at the diocesan and parish levels. Their days are taken up with a good deal of CYA, red tape and other factory functions that they do not have much time for the primary reason of the priesthood: Mass and the sacraments, along with truly pastoral work (visiting families, tending the sick, etc.). This is not the fault of the priests; it is a secular trend that permeated the Church and began to dictate the expectations of bishops and others. However, I am convinced that for a priest today to be truly holy, truly pastoral and truly sacramental, he needs to buck the trend a bit and take command of his daily schedule. The priests today that I know who do this are the ones who make themselves available in the confessional, for annointing of the sick, funeral home visits, etc. These are their priorities, and while they occasionally fudge on the administrative aspects, they do not completely neglect them, but they see the salvation of souls at the top priority. They usually are not the types who become bishops (or even monsignori), but occasionally they do. Either way they see their roles in common with the saints of centuries past, not in contrast

As for the modernism, people have been so poorly catechized that many honestly believe that they do not need to confess very often, if at all. In an attempt to “update” teaching methodologies, the sense of sin was de-emphasized and personal guilt overlooked in favor of social and corporate sin. Nations and corporations and even the Church are guilty of XYZ, but individuals never seem to be. For some people this is simply a matter of aloofness, i.e., no one has ever taught them otherwise. Westerners in general, and Americans in particular, have lived in relatively prosperous societies that have much to say about the pursuit of wealth and pleasure, but little about personal obligations. Consumerism fills the void created by the absence of a moral compass. Unfortunately, many seminaries, and therefore many priests, bought into this and the result has been the eroding of a sense of personal sin and the obligation to confess.

Yes, if you build it, they will come. My parish priests hear confessions every day, seven days a week, before every Mass, and with slots scheduled during a weekly holy hour, plus Saturday morning. The result is that there is always someone confessing, even though it is a small parish. They have been trained and nurtured this way. Sure, there are a few scrupulous types who need periodic prompting, and the pastor does this with confession cathechesis printed in the bulletin, and occasionally from the pulpit. And I don’t mean just EF priests. The holy priests that have motivated me, EF or OF, have believed in preaching about the importance of confession, and then making themselves available in the confessional, regardless of what meetings and events were occurring in the parish and diocese. It may be a matter of reclaiming our priests as sacramental celebrants, teachers and pastors, above all else.
Very good post. Thank you. 🙂
 
I was raised not go all that often to Confession, and I am in my 30’s. I went 2 times a year to a communal service type thing for much of my life with no real emphasis on going privately. A few churches I go to will do a Communal service and have several priests stationed throughout the church to do private confession & absolution.

But I think priests need to bring it up to the faithful that the simple communal service just does not cut it when it comes to Penance/Confession. They need to remind people of that precept of the church about going 1 time a year at minimum to Confession and more if you have mortal sin etc

This year alone, I have gone 3 or 4 times to private confessions and only 1 was done during a communal service when I had the chance to confess privately during the servuce. I’ve been to parishes that offer the EF Mass, and I do see about 10 to 12 people lining up to do a private confession before Mass which is a good thing.
 
Greetings TrueLight,

Get a Confessor and schedule appointsments with him. That way you are guaranteed Confession at a convenient time and don’t have to worry about it being rushed.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit
 
Confession is supposed to be about 30 minutes before mass at that Church, but the times I have been there, it hasn’t started until about 15 minutes before.
I always make a point to be there *before *the posted start time. Then, not only do I know I’ll get to confession because there won’t be a line ahead, it also encourages Father to see people ready and waiting. It may be that the priests there found that folks weren’t coming at 10:30 for confession before 11am Mass, but were instead arriving just before Mass started. So even though they haven’t changed the official time, everyone knows that confession is really for only 15 minutes.

When I’ve been waiting in similar situations, the priest has gone down the line and let us know that he will hear confessions again after Mass. Of course, that supposes that he doesn’t have a different commitment then.

Anyway, my point being that we should be prompt and patient. 😉
 
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