I'm a one-issue voter

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I’m basically a one issue voter, and this year there is no candidate on my side of this issue. How can Hillary get the Catholic vote when she is pro-abortion also !!

None of the candidates are pro-life so once again I will leave the top portion of my ballot blank.
 
wcknight said:
I’m basically a one issue voter, and this year there is no candidate on my side of this issue. How can Hillary get the Catholic vote when she is pro-abortion also !!

None of the candidates are pro-life so once again I will leave the top portion of my ballot blank.
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Then that’s a vote against pro-life given the race as it stands.
 
wcknight said:
I’m basically a one issue voter, and this year there is no candidate on my side of this issue. How can Hillary get the Catholic vote when she is pro-abortion also !!

None of the candidates are pro-life so once again I will leave the top portion of my ballot blank.
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I hate that the media gives the impression that Hillary “got the Catholic vote”. It was a Democratic Primary. She got a majority of the CAtholics that voted in that primary. So she did not get the “Catholic vote”. It would be much closer to the truth to say she got the “Cafeteria Catholic” vote; or: “A majority of those who call themselves Catholic but support anti-catholic positions voted for Hillary.”

Traditionally (last 100 years) Catholics have voted Democrat overwhelmingly, but I think that is changing in the last 20 or 30 years, isn’t it?

As for none of the candidates being pro-life, well, no candidate is ever perfect. No one will ever agree with all of my positions, unless I run for office. So our best course of action is to vote for the candidates (all up and down the ticket) who are closest to what we want–and that have a chance of winning. That’s what I’ll do.
 
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JKing:
Is anyone else out there a one-issue voter?

I’m often called stupid or blind or naive when I reveal that I only vote on one issue–life.

But the way I see it, everything else pales in comparison. The question I have is this: If a candidate for any office can’t get it right on the most basic issue of all, life, how can I trust his judgement on any other issue?

What if, abortion was legal up through the 15th trimester? What if our laws defended the right of a mother to destroy their child up to the age of three years?

What if everey day, there was an army of white-coated men and women who fanned out across the country gathering up all the children 3 years and under who–their mothers decided–should not continue to be a burden on society? What if this army-in-lab-coats gathered them all up and, in the public squares across the nation, lined them up and cut them to pieces? What if every day over 3,000 children were dismembered? What if the law protected the mothers’ right to choose to have their children destroyed in this way?

How long would this go on? How many days in a row would our citizenry stand by and let this perfectly legal activity continue? (Digression: Would people be justified in trying to explain to the mothers the implication of their choice? Would we be careful about trying to protect the mothers from the truth of what’s happening?)

Anyway, this is what I picture whenever I think about abortion. To me (and the Catholic moral teaching) when it comes to value or worth, there is no difference between a one-minute old fertilized egg, and a one month old fetus. No difference between a fetus and an infant. No difference between an infant and a child or a child and an adult. No difference between a young adult and a senior citizen. No difference between a healthy working person and a handicapped person who will never work a day in their life. All human life is sacred. All human persons deserve the same right to life.

So if a candidate says, personally I’m opposed, and then goes on to defend abortion, even under exceptional circumstances–rape/incest/health of mother, I can’t even consider any of their other positions.

Truthfully speaking, if a candidate promised to work tirelessly to outlaw abortion, even if he was a whacky socialist/liberal/democrat who wanted to confiscate all my money and give it to my neighbor, socialize everything, open our borders and retreat in Iraq, I’d vote for them.

I wish I could look at other issues. The only way I can ever consider a candidate’s other positions is if all candidates have the same position on abortion. But inevitably, their positions are not the same. I always end up picking the one that is closer to right on this one issue.

Anyway, so I’m looking for comments. Am I blind or stupid? Does anyone else feel frustrated by this? Are there any Catholics here who do NOT vote only on this one issue? Have I changed your mind at all? How can you even begin to consider someone’s position on the economy or the war when they are ok with 3000 children being dismembered every day?

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As I’m not old enough to be a voter, hence, I certainly cannot be a “one-issue voter.” Nor do I have any intention of becoming one.

The intention of the “OIV” is good… but it’s a flawed philosophy. Yes, of course our treatment of human life is fundamental. Yet I would take this statement further and add that our treatment of human life at any point in time is no less fundamental. A sad and strange trend among many “pro-life” candidates is their fervent support of capital punishment–which, no less than abortion practices, undermine the value and dignity of human life. One may argue that the two are not comparable for a plethora of reasons. Fair enough.

But I for my part fail to note any real distinction. It is simply not for us to decide who is and who isn’t “worthy” of life–so let’s stop playing God already and respect the sanctity of human life without such embarassing inconsistencies.

Many “pro-life” candidates also say we should continue to support the unjust war in Iraq–as if enough Americans haven’t suffered and died needlessly for such a self-seeking cause. Once again, supporting the “pro-life” candidate results in more deaths.

This same candidate may hold foolish economic policies that may prove detrimental to the average American worker. Many times, poor financial situations lead women to feelings of inadequacy regarding motherhood and, consequently, thinking themselves incapable of raising and rearing a child in such impoverished conditions, they decide to seek an abortion instead.

It’s not enough to say “I’ll vote for this guy because he’s pro-life” when the truth of the matter is: there are various, various issues that contribute to society’s overall attitude toward human life and its value.

It’s just not as simple as that… There are far more factors that need to be considered–and sadly, many times, they aren’t being taken into account.
 
Fitswimmer said:
I had hoped that after the Schiavo incident, there would be some kind of law passed that would reduce the chance of such a thing happening ever again. Unless I missed something, no such legislation was even proposed.

We’re on our own to protect ourselves.
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So true…

From the words and mouth of Father Nicolas Grunar.

If You or a Loved one Ever Need to be Hospitalized

"Please be wary if you or a loved one should need to seek medical treatment. There is a “death” crusade taking place in parts of North America and other parts of the world (all part of Russia spreading her errors, as Our Lady warned). "

“If you need to go into a hospital for treatment, be very careful of what you sign. Do not sign paperwork that says “no extraordinary means” without reading everything and having it all defined in writing.”

"Because according to the “no extraordinary means” statement, the doctors and nurses do not have to help you or your loved one, including not giving them food, water or any treatment.”

Remember though you can actually cross off the parts you don’t like …before signing.
 
myndsplyntur said:
OBVIOUSLY all of these are outlandish examples and I really expected more for a rebuttal.

As mentioned previously, it’s a process. Personally I think that killing 1.2 million 7 year olds is a bad idea, as is slavery, and sending Jews to death camps. You really think that I would view taxes and train systems as more important?
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So you are yourself a single issue voter. So why do you criticze the reat of us?

What is the difference between 1.2 million 7 year olds slaughtered a year and 1.2 million unborn children slaughtered a year? Or are the unborn , like the Jews; to be considered sub-human and not worthy of protection
 
IrishAm said:
But I am not a one-issue voter. Abortion is a worldwide phenomena and a medical procedure. Even if it were outlawed in the United States, it would take place in doctors’ offices and clinics around the world – as well as continue in the US. Outlawed, it would be an unenforceable ban here, and an open event in other lands.
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Murder is outlawed in the United States and it still takes place. By loosening the restrictions on murder, you then encourage those who might have thought twice about it to go ahead and follow through on the act.
 
St_Aloysius said:
As I’m not old enough to be a voter, hence, I certainly cannot be a “one-issue voter.” Nor do I have any intention of becoming one.

The intention of the “OIV” is good… but it’s a flawed philosophy. Yes, of course our treatment of human life is fundamental. Yet I would take this statement further and add that our treatment of human life at any point in time is no less fundamental. A sad and strange trend among many “pro-life” candidates is their fervent support of capital punishment–which, no less than abortion practices, undermine the value and dignity of human life. One may argue that the two are not comparable for a plethora of reasons. Fair enough.

But I for my part fail to note any real distinction. It is simply not for us to decide who is and who isn’t “worthy” of life–so let’s stop playing God already and respect the sanctity of human life without such embarassing inconsistencies.

Many “pro-life” candidates also say we should continue to support the unjust war in Iraq–as if enough Americans haven’t suffered and died needlessly for such a self-seeking cause. Once again, supporting the “pro-life” candidate results in more deaths.

This same candidate may hold foolish economic policies that may prove detrimental to the average American worker. Many times, poor financial situations lead women to feelings of inadequacy regarding motherhood and, consequently, thinking themselves incapable of raising and rearing a child in such impoverished conditions, they decide to seek an abortion instead.

It’s not enough to say “I’ll vote for this guy because he’s pro-life” when the truth of the matter is: there are various, various issues that contribute to society’s overall attitude toward human life and its value.

It’s just not as simple as that… There are far more factors that need to be considered–and sadly, many times, they aren’t being taken into account.
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You are right to say that the treatment of human life is no less fundamental at any point, yet how do expect anyone to be able to realize this when they are killed before experiencing anything at all?

The issue at hand with Capital Punishment is not a matter of who is and is not “worthy of life.” The issue is whether or not the rest of society is safe with such a person living. It has nothing to do with worth. It has to do with safety…period.

Also, there is no such thing as “impoverished” in the United States. Along with many groups like Catholic Charities, there are avenues for these unexpected mothers. The “impoverished” argument is just another red herring in our entitlement-minded society.

Your issue with the Iraq war is another bad example. Whether or not you agree with the war, the fact is that 5,000 of our soldiers have sacrificed themselves for our country over the last five years. We lose that much in a day due to abortion.
 
Jon_S said:
Your issue with the Iraq war is another bad example. Whether or not you agree with the war, the fact is that 5,000 of our soldiers have sacrificed themselves for our country over the last five years. We lose that much in a day due to abortion.
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And “catholics” were voting for abortion on demand candidates long before there was a war in Iraq. The Iraq war is just the latest rationalization they use.
 
wcknight said:
I’m basically a one issue voter, and this year there is no candidate on my side of this issue. How can Hillary get the Catholic vote when she is pro-abortion also !!

None of the candidates are pro-life so once again I will leave the top portion of my ballot blank.
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That’s a vote for the abortion candidate, because the pro-abortion voters will not do as you say you’re going to do. There actually is one candidate who is, minimally, much closer to your position. The National Abortion Rights Action League considers one of the candidates a threat to abortion rights, but the other to be pro-abortion. Guess which is which.
 
estesbob said:
And “catholics” were voting for abortion on demand candidates long before there was a war in Iraq. The Iraq war is just the latest rationalization they use.
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My father used to tell the story of a settler in the West. His neighbor came over one day and asked to borrow his ax. He said he was sorry but he couldn’t loan it; he was going to shave today. The neighbor left and the settler’s wife asked what did his shaving have to do with loaning the ax. The settler explained, " When you don’t want to do something, one excuse is as good as another." 😉
 
How many people were one issue voters when the issue was women’s right to vote? Slavery?

Sorry, but throughout history I think there have been plenty of one issue voters.
 
Ridgerunner said:
So who then?

Looking for prolife Dem officeholders or contenders nowadays isn’t quite like looking under strawberry leaves for trooping fairies, but it’s the next closest thing.
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I agree 100%. I’m going to hunt for them. Don’t care if they are not in my state.
 
myndsplyntur said:
APeople DON’T do the necessary research on the candidates to find out what they are getting into. Personally, I do. I do a ton of research.
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Teach me how to research issues well please. Want to get all knowed up and not be bamboozled by “not facts.”
 
Ok, we shouldn’t vote for abortionists but it’s OK to offer them communion? At a Pope’s Mass, no less?
 
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