Im a rageaholic!

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Hello I’m having severe issues with rage I’ll start cursing and screaming over the littlest things I see a group for anger management therapy it really makes me feel bad I’m not violent but the screaming and curses are unacceptable but its like I can’t stop myself and if I do I end up with a migraine please pray that whatever causes this I can stop
 
Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.Holy
Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
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Hello I’m having severe issues with rage I’ll start cursing and screaming over the littlest things I see a group for anger management therapy it really makes me feel bad I’m not violent but the screaming and curses are unacceptable but its like I can’t stop myself and if I do I end up with a migraine please pray that whatever causes this I can stop
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Sounds so hard! I’m sorry that you have had to go through that. 😦

Sure, we’ll pray for you.
 
Take the migraine as Jesus did His cross: with practice, the pain will pass.

You have my prayers, friend.
 
Have you seen a psychiatrist about this? You might need a medication to inhibit your rages.
 
I have some temper issues myself.

For the intention of both of us to develop greater control over anger:

In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit:

Dear Father: please help us to gain greater control over our anger management issues.
 
**Blessed Apostle Peter,
to whom God has given the keys of the kingdom of Heaven,
and the power to bind and loose,
grant that we may be delivered through the help
of your intercession from the bonds of our sins.
O, Holy Shepherd,
Prince of the Apostles,
pray for us that we may be made worthy
of the promises of Christ.

Amen.**
 
Praying for you.

Memorare

REMEMBER, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought thy intercession was left unaided. Inspired with this confidence, I fly to thee, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother; to thee do I come; before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy hear and answer me. Amen.
 
Saint Michael, the archangel, defend us in battle, be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil, may God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do you, O’ Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God thrust into Hell Satan and all the other evil spirits who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

Amen.

†

Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Amen.

†

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

Amen.

†

Prayer to Our Lady of Mental Peace

O Lady of Mental Peace,
Mother of Tranquility
and Mother of Hope,
look upon Stillsosola in this time
of weakness and unrest.

Teach her searching heart
to know that God’s Love
for her is unchanging and
unchangeable, and, that
true human love can only
begin and grow by touching
His Love.

Let your gentle Peace -
which this world cannot give
  • be always with her.
    And, help her to bring this
    same Peace into the lives
    of others.
Our Lady of Mental Peace,
  • Pray for us!
    Amen.
 
AVE MARIA, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.
 
Jamal I greatly disagree with psych drugs I feel anything that controls your mind is dangerous also I recently lost a friend with pstd who they believed killed him self over improper psych drugs so I’ll try to go to a personal counselor along with the group
 
I think that’s fine. And it’s quite probable that your chosen route will work. Its a better way to go as long as it works.

I would say, though, that the brain is an organ in the body just as the heart or the pancreas. At times, a drug can have a beneficial effect on the brain just as any other. For many people, they are helpful, but not all. Sometimes they help not at all or make a person worse off than before.

I think practicing the presence of God more and daily prayer can be of some help for anger issues. And like contemplating and meditating on the gentleness, meekness, and humility of Christ. Well, most of the time, he was gentle. 🙂

***“Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.”

God Bless!
 
Prayer for Controlling Anger

O Lord, must I fear Your wrath?
Retribution is Yours by right!
May I never dishonour Your Divinity,
My soul seeking to maintain Your love.
Shape my being into earnest kindness,
A reflection of Your perfection.
Grant me the grace of self-control,
That I may not display any anger.
Should I have such an outburst,
Instantly remind me to seek redress,
For such is offensive to You.
Anger is Yours alone to avenge!
Amen.
 
Hi Stillsosola, will pray for you. Some books I have found useful for dealing with anger include:

Summa of the Christian Life by Ven Louis of Granada (Volume 2, Chapter 5 page 28) published by Tan Publicaitons

amazon.com/Summa-Christian-Life-Selected-writings/dp/0895551217/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1417227854&sr=8-3&keywords=Summa+of+Christian+Life+Granada

Four Faces of Anger by Gertrude Gillette

amazon.com/Four-Faces-Anger-Evagrius-Augustine/dp/0761851690/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417227889&sr=8-1&keywords=Four+faces+of+anger

The Collected Works of St John of the Cross published by Institute of Carmelite Studies (esp pages 97 & 278)

amazon.com/Collected-Works-St-John-Cross/dp/0935216146/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417228099&sr=8-1&keywords=collected+works+of+St+John+of+the+Cross

On the Human Condition by St Basil the Great published by St Vladimir’s Seminary Press (esp page 91)

amazon.com/Human-Condition-%2522Popular-Patristics%2522-Patristics/dp/0881412945/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417228217&sr=8-1&keywords=On+the+Human+Condition+Basil

The Sermons of St. Alphonsus Liguori for All the Sundays of the Year published by Tan Publications contains a homily on anger.

amazon.com/Sermons-Alphonsus-Liguori-Sundays-Year/dp/0895551934/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417228298&sr=8-1&keywords=Sunday+Sermons+Liguori

The Practice of the Love of Jesus Christ by St. Alphonsus Liguori

amazon.com/Practice-Jesus-Christ-Liguori-Classic/dp/0764800310/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1417228547&sr=8-15&keywords=Alphonsus+Liguori

Introduction to the Devout Life by St Francis de Sales contains a chapter on anger.

amazon.com/Introduction-Devout-Life-Francis-Sales/dp/0375725628/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417228447&sr=8-1&keywords=Introduction+to+the+Devout+life

Cheers,
Tom
 
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.Holy
Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.Holy
Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.Holy
Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

PAX
 
Before we had medication for mental health, it was unreal, people in chains.

With some conditions, we even know which chemicals are at work, like with, say depression…with serotonin, etc.

Medications aren’t perfect, but I used to interpret in mental health, mainly in one place that was for kids and teens. Meds helped TREMENDOUSLY!

Some people have asked me about my work there, and I LOVED it. Of all the places I have interpreted, that was my FAVORITE place of them all. Some have asked me if it was depressing, listening to people talk about their problems.

No, actually it wasn’t like that to me at all. I watched people with all kinds of problems from bipolar, obsessive compulsive, I think ADD, ADHD, autism, right on up. They would come through the door, a mess, and leave, much better.

As to medication, I have seen some teachers who could readily tell if a student was on, or off, meds. If the person was off, it was just awful. They would often be impossible to work with.

Many times now, medications aren’t even like they were even 20 years ago. A lot of the addictive ones have been taken out, and some aren’t even addictive, now.

With many medications, when you first start taking them, you can even get worse for a time. Yet, one needs to give them the full time to work. The time varies with the meds, but my ex-husband said he had to wait 6 weeks for his med to work. In that time, he felt worse! He told the doctor he was WORSE! The doctor said to give it the 6 weeks, and then he felt relief, was SO glad he stuck it out.

My ex-husband had panic attacks, and without meds, he would do things like sing 99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall! He had OC and said it was a shame his father never knew to try meds. Instead, he tried to self medicate using alcohol, was an alcoholic. My ex-husband said, of his father, that if he would have only been on meds, he could have enjoyed his life!

I’ve used medication for depression. My family has a history of depression. One of my sisters had a nervous breakdown. I WISH she would try some medication! She refuses to speak to ALL of us…including her ex-husband and two children.

The advent of medication in psychiatry has pretty much revolutionalized the entire system. Now, there’s hope.

I have had times when I have been suicidally depressed, and antidepressants have possibly, literally, been a life saver. My only regret is not discovering this years ago, like in my adolescence.

I have an aunt who was well known in the family for being chronically grumpy and difficult. I saw her at the end of her life, and she said once, she was talking to a doctor, describing her feelings, to which he said, “You’re depressed!”

He gave her some medication, and she insisted from that point on, she was a completely different person. She was happy, fun to be around! She said her only regret was not trying meds years ago!

I’ve seen one kid with autism with meds, improve, even with that!

We have had kids who are having all kinds of problems, can’t focus, are hyperactive, take some meds…do better with their behavior, grades.

I’ve seen people resist medications, because sometimes parents don’t want to try them with their children, for many reasons. The bad behavior will often persist and persist and persist until the parents finally give in to try meds. Then, they generally see they aren’t so bad and seem to wonder how they ever did without them.

With medication, one can also try them. Psychiatrists typically start anyone out on the lowest dosages, go up from there, gradually increasing till they get it right for that person.

So, many people fear, needlessly, thinking all these terrible things are going to happen, when that’s usually not the case. Or, they can think that they, as outpatients, will not be in control of this, but no. On an outpatient basis, you’re in control.

I have a friend who was sexually abused by a relative for 2 years, and as a result, he has PTSD. He tried meds probably about 30 years ago. He said they were too strong. I’ve encouraged him to go back, try again.

Also, some people go once, and call that “trying”. I asked if he went back, explained that, and no. He didn’t. He calls THAT an “attempt”!

Anyway, my friend will lash out in anger with basically anyone, and I believe it’s related to the above but believe in my heart of hearts that medicine has changed significantly since, wish he’d give it another shot.

However, he’s closed off. I’ve watched him go from relationship to relationship, with 3 failed marriages and more failed relationships, mainly due to his temper. He basically can’t sustain a relationship, and he makes everyone around him, miserable.

I WISH he’d try meds, again, for our sake and his own.

I’ve heard psychiatrists talk to the patients, and really the patients have a lot of control. I think some outpatients believe they will lose control or something, and no. That’s not the case.

As to meds, yeah, there will always be a person from time to time, who will abuse medication, but even so, I would not use that as a reason, for myself, not to try a medication to see if it might help.

What does one really have to lose? One could try medication. If one is unhappy with the results, you go back and say you want to switch…or change the dosage. If one’s still unhappy, you’re still in control, can just ask to stop and how to go about that.

Because a friend or relative used a medication, abused it, or had it not work, or not prescribed properly, doesn’t mean that will necessarily also happen to you. Each person is a different case. I think some medication could take the “edge” off the rage, in all honesty without ultimately being problematic. It’s your call, though.
 
I think, taken on the whole, there are many more people who are helped by meds with these kinds of issues than harmed by them. There is a risk, but I think the probability is much higher that you would be helped than harmed. That’s why people go to these places, because generally, they do help, and medications generally do work.
 
This is my first post on this forum.

I am newly diagnosed Bipolar 1, a.k.a. manic depression. At age 51, I am feeling really, really bad about the diagnosis and the need for medication. That is why I came here.

I realized I have struggled with depression from time to time, and with prayer, meditation, and familial support, I thought I was overcoming.

Then our 33 year old marriage became much more fragile and I insisted we go to marriage counseling.

After a few months, our counselor pulled me aside and told me she suspected I was Bipolar.

I went to a psychiatrist who is the only one who can properly diagnose. I also have taken over three online quizzes. All of which confirmed this diagnosis.

But, still, I questioned. How could this be? I have always been the victim. I have always been in the right. I have always been the one misunderstood! (And many times I was, but it was how hard I took it that caused me to question, am I just like everybody else? It also helped me to somewhat accept the diagnosis.)

Anyhow, I knew I sometimes struggled with depression, but it was the rage I ignored. I figured it was my right to let anyone have it. Mostly my beloved husband.

I don’t think it really hit me until late last night that this is my mania. The uncontrolled, self-righteous, hurtful, and yes, even swearing tirades which not only demean others, but my self. Which in turn, demeans the Body of Christ.

I am just now beginning to take medication. I am struggling. I have already stopped one with the okay of my pdoc. She is even willing to engage via email between three week appointments. I know the dosages will increase, and I worry about the side effects. And there are many.

But if it means I will be better able to witness to the love of Jesus? Then I am all for it.

So, don’t ignore the angry outbursts. They not only hurt others, they hurt you. Maybe you do need help in self-control. I know I take Aleve daily for my arthritis and it helps me move about. And, yes, there are long-term serious problems with Aleve. But if I move about more and lose more weight, I may not need the Aleve.

I am also praying protection prayers, once with mother, and once with hubby, daily along with the rosary. I attend at least one weekday mass, trying for two, and spend quiet time in front of the Blessed Sacrament.

I have been a very good Catholic. I am just sick.

God Bless!
Kay
 
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