I'm an SSPX'er, ask me anything!

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my “feelings” aren’t “hurt” whatsoever

is SSPX pro-life or not? ;

what is the teaching of “your”/ “our” Church ?
 
I think your SSPX is more singularly focused on Latin language and proper liturgical procedure.

Asking them about abortion I think sort of catches them off balance, because they rarely talk about it in SSPX circles.

Sort of like asking an NRA member what their position is on abortion. You can assume that a conservative is most likely unabashedly Pro Life- but its puzzling to them as it gets them off their primary focus.
 
best post in this thread;

so what is SSPX “primary focus” ; i want to know
 
no i am not; i am trying to learn about SSPX dogma/ orthodoxy / heirarchy

how SSPX functions;

whether there are SSPX Masses i can attend

whether there is something of substance i can try to understand;

frankly & par·tic·u·lar·ly; i’ve been a little bit disappointed
 
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SSPX, while i appreciate your attempt to return to return to otrhodoxy; seem to be schismatic

you have no magestereium; no heirarchy, no parishes

you kind of just nip at the flanks of the Roman Church & tell each other ( all 12 of you) how great thou art
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brian_custer said:
no i am not; i am trying to learn about SSPX dogma/ orthodoxy / heirarchy
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You have already exposed your ideas and considerations, so why do you keep playing the innocent?
 
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well; i will certainly go to that website; especially since the SSPX’ers here can’t answer basic questions

no insult intended
 
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OP said “ask me anything”; i “asked” basic questions

i’ve been flagged and could likely be banned over this nonsense;

meantime ; the SSPX’ers’s have not answered any of my questions… 😦
 
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i’m not fighting
i’m asking questions;

and, imo; i didn’t get satisfactory answers…

the title of the “thread” was “ask anything”

so i did; the response to my questions was “underwhelming”
 
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Do you guys begin catechesis with the Baltimore Catechism and move on to something else or is the BC the main text that you use? Does the SSPX have an equivalent to RCIA? I know some RCIA can be troublesome where instructors use it to promote their liberal agenda. How do you protect against that? And finally what Catholic books would be on the shelf of a typical SSPXer? Thanks!
 
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Proof of the Papal interpretation?

Ecclesia Dei-
  1. In itself, this act was one of disobedience to the Roman Pontiff in a very grave matter and of supreme importance for the unity of the church, such as is the ordination of bishops whereby the apostolic succession is sacramentally perpetuated. Hence such disobedience - which implies in practice the rejection of the Roman primacy - constitutes a schismatic act.(3) In performing such an act, notwithstanding the formal canonical warning sent to them by the Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops on 17 June last, Mons. Lefebvre and the priests Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta, have incurred the grave penalty of excommunication envisaged by ecclesiastical law.(4)
And notes 3 and 4-

(3) Cf. Code of Canon Law , can. 751.

(4) Cf. Code of Canon Law , can. 1382.
 
THis is an honest observation- the Jansenists said the same thing. Initially they did not have a separate hierarchy, they were a “Traditional” movement within the Catholic Church with the aim of returning St. Augustines doctrines to the forefront. But they got caught up in exaggeration, denial of condemnations, false traditionalism and ultimately schism. The same as the SSPX.

In fact SPXFAN, have you read the first condemnation from Auctorem Fidei regarding the Jansenist Synod of Pistoia? It’s the death knell for the motive force of all false traditionalist movements-

SourceURL:http://patristica.net/denzinger/

1501 1. The proposition, which asserts “that in these later times there has been spread a general obscuring of the more important truths pertaining to religion, which are the basis of faith and of the moral teachings of Jesus Christ,”–heretical.

The Jansenists were claiming the Church had obscured the purity of her teaching from the Patristic era. The Church cannot be a source of obfuscation, therefore faith demands we must fault our understanding. To claim Vatican II is a true council and that it simultaneously is responsible for error in the Church is heretical. Again, a Jansenist trait.
 
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The Jansenists were claiming the Church had obscured the purity of her teaching from the Patristic era. The Church cannot be a source of obfuscation, therefore faith demands we must fault our understanding. To claim Vatican II is a true council and that it simultaneously is responsible for error in the Church is heretical. Again, a Jansenist trait.
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This. The whole “it was a pastoral not dogmatic” Council bit is very troubling to me…for since when are we free to ignore the pastoral directives of Holy Mother Church? Catholics have never limited the faith to a list of dogmas. An ecumenical council is one of the most sacred events in the life of the Church. In 2000 years, there have only been 21. It is a most solemn exercise of the Church’s supreme authority and the Church has always understood, going back to Nicaea (and really, Jerusalem in Acts 15), that the Holy Spirit guides these councils in a unique way… how the heck do you get around that?
 
why is this a rule, given that only clergy can be members of the sspx church, not the congregation who are still members of the latin rite
 
This is an open forum. People can bring whatever they want into the thread, including FSSP. This isn’t your thread, so let it be.
 
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