I'm confused...

[malphono]

So true. Plus, to be quite frank, Eastern Christians generally spend a lot more time being catechized in proper liturgy. I’m not a particularly soft individual but my heart melts when I hear the four year olds who know all the liturgy responses and hear of children being excited for vespers.

I assume by “Eastern” you don’t mean to include the Maronites. Well, maybe some in Israel, and maybe a small handful in Lebanon, but not so much in the diaspora

 

[Vico]

So I would imagine for Eastern Catholics and Eastern Orthodox parishioners, it would be hard to “memorize” the responses during Divine Liturgy. Most of us Roman Rite Catholics pretty much have all the responses of the Mass memorized. If they use different Liturgical Rites within each particular church, I would imagine it would be hard.

Well it is challenging. For example for the (Byzantine) Divine Liturgies, since there are eight plain chant tones and each tone has different wording and includes these.

1. 
   *] Toparion
   *] Kontakion
   *] Prokeimenon (with verse)
   *] Alleluia (with verses)
   
   Also there are festal tones that are mixed with these depending on the feast. It is the festal tones that are used less frequently that can easily be forgotten.

 

[Peter_J]

I assume by “Eastern” you don’t mean to include the Maronites. Well, maybe some in Israel, and maybe a small handful in Lebanon, but not so much in the diaspora

To be honest, I was rather surprised to read the comment that “Eastern Christians generally spend a lot more time being catechized in proper liturgy”, regardless of which churches were meant. My impression is that, on average, the amount of time for such catechesis is about the same wherever you go.

 

[Aramis]

To be honest, I was rather surprised to read the comment that “Eastern Christians generally spend a lot more time being catechized in proper liturgy”, regardless of which churches were meant. My impression is that, on average, the amount of time for such catechesis is about the same wherever you go.

The average time of catechesis for a convert in the Roman church is about 8 months.

The average I’ve been quoted for Byzantines is closer to 15 to 18 months. At my parish, it’s closer to 24 months, assuming we toss out Mr. J. L., who has been a catechumen for almost 20 years… (His wife was received last year, whilst quite ill, having been a catechumen for almost as long.)

 

[malphono]

To be honest, I was rather surprised to read the comment that “Eastern Christians generally spend a lot more time being catechized in proper liturgy”, regardless of which churches were meant. My impression is that, on average, the amount of time for such catechesis is about the same wherever you go.

I wouldn’t say that, Peter. Of those in union with Rome, the Melkites seem to project a better liturgical catechesis than most others. Perhaps the same is true among Chaldeans as well these days, thanks to Mar Sarhad in San Diego and Mar Youhanan in Toronto. I’m sure Rony will have more to say on that one.

Of those NOT in union with Rome, though, the OO seem to do a much better job overall, and perhaps that is what MorEphrem may have had in mind.

 

[Peter_J]

I wouldn’t say that, Peter. Of those in union with Rome, the Melkites seem to project a better liturgical catechesis than most others. Perhaps the same is true among Chaldeans as well these days, thanks to Mar Sarhad in San Diego and Mar Youhanan in Toronto. I’m sure Rony will have more to say on that one.

Of those NOT in union with Rome, though, the OO seem to do a much better job overall, and perhaps that is what MorEphrem may have had in mind.

Cool.

 

[tawny]

The main liturgies used are listed and most are different translations and in various languages, even when the same one.

http://forums.catholic-questions.org/picture.php?albumid=601&pictureid=9279

Thank you for posting the chart. Much appreciated.

 

[angelic06]

While we are on the topic of anaphorae, the Ordinary Form of the Roman Missal also has mutiple Eucharistic prayers, but we do not name our Masses differently like the Byzantines do respecting their Divine Liturgy. Rite II of the Mass in use in the Anglican Use parishes uses the same Eucharistic prayers as the Ordinary Form, and I have also heard at my AU parish at the school Mass being used one of the forms of the more modern Eucharistic prayers (we use Rite I of the Anglican Use exclusively, and also the Roman Canon exclusively on Sundays-we also use the Latin of the OF on Sunday evenings, excepting the Sunday of the Resurrection, Easter Sunday).