I'm embarrassed about my vocation

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I feel like God is calling me to be an exorcist.
I can’t explain it and I don’t really understand it, but I just feel like that might be my vocation…
I don’t know what to think of it or what to do about it.
 
Just a question. Why do you think that is embarrassing? If that is your vocation I would call that a noble vocation. I think God might need many exorcist in these times. Just my thought.
 
I feel like God is calling me to be an exorcist.
I can’t explain it and I don’t really understand it, but I just feel like that might be my vocation…
I don’t know what to think of it or what to do about it.
Actually, I would pursue this, if you really think that’s what God is calling you to do. I just heard an interview recently with an exorcist who said that the Holy Father expressed a need for more exorcists.
 
If you want to be an exorcist, you first have to figure out what it is you want to be. (see your description line) then complete studies for the priesthood and have a valid ordination. You will become an exorcist not at your choosing, but at that of your bishop/archbishop. This takes special training, study and spirituality. If this is what you feel called to do, do it properly with the proper spiritual and mystical and theological formation, plus the power of orders which comes from the imposition of hands at ordination. Then when all this is done, you will do it within the confines of the Church, with your bishop’s/archbishop’s express instruction.
 
Just a question. Why do you think that is embarrassing?
I think it’s embarrassing because many people in today’s world even select Catholic hierarchy don’t believe in the necessity and reality of exorcism. That’s my reason for keeping it very private.
 
Well I’m not going to pull any punches here; feeling a “call” to be an exorcist is peculiar. Not saying it’s not possible, but just…peculiar.

Have you experimented with occult trappings? Ouija boards, tarot cards, divinations, the Satanic Bible, mediums, if only “just for fun”? Be honest. Tampering with such things invites the devil in and leaves you vulnerable. And once in, the devil likes to stay awhile.

Overall I’m with Deacon Ed B. Being an exorcist is assigned. I know a priest in Chicago who is an exorcist and he quailed with fear a little when the assignments started coming down. It was first his duty to determine whether the person was mentally ill before launching vials of holy water at them. I wouldn’t go to the seminary in the hopes that you *might *become an exorcist one day. Even your Vocation Director will look at you funny. I am actually of the opinion that those who “want” to be exorcists are the very ones that *shouldn’t *become them; I don’t know how else to say it without fumbling for words. It is perilous. The stories I’ve heard curl my toenails. Nobody *wants *those experiences, those memories…

The reason that there are doubters of the existance of the devil and modern possession is that we don’t know how to recognize the signs. In a world of logic and reason, we’ve lost sight of the logic and reason of the metaphysical world; it is dismissed as fantasy. And also, the devil doesn’t care one way or the other if we believe he exists; CS Lewis once wrote something about how the devil welcomes both magicians and skeptics alike. He works better when we aren’t looking for him (read The Screwtape Letters immediately if haven’t already done so).

That said, thinking about the devil overmuch tends to get his attention, so I would beware of that. Just knowing he exists is enough; don’t seek him out. Jesus has already defeated Satan. There is no war; the war is already won. They (the fallen angels) know their time is short. Have you ever studied Biblical Demonology? A worthy endeavor. And I mean *Biblical *Demonology. Don’t go out looking for grimoires and such.

Graduate from college. U of D. Good school. A friend of mine got his doctorate there. I got a poem published in Denver Quarterly once. Pray a lot. Spend time in front of the Blessed Sacrament. Find a spiritual director. It sounds to me like the devil is trying to get your attention. Your only hope is Christ. I am praying for you. Embarrassment? A vocation causes a sense of fulfillment, a sense of peace. Listen to your embarrassment. Anything that doesn’t bring you peace (even when persecuted) is something to avoid. Pray.

I’m far less interested in why you’re embarrassed as to why, specifically, you feel called to be an exorcist. You’ve seen some things? Had some experiences that you cannot explain? Dreams? Talk about that
 
This might sound kooky, but I hope I would be taken seriously in a Catholic Forum. One of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit that I know I have is “The Discernment of Spirits.” scapularkid8–after a short perusal of the posts you’ve made on other threads, and the threads you are attracted to–**you **are in peril. It’s so blatent that even someone without the charism could see it.

Again, as Deacon Ed B said, look to your description line. Where are you? “Ethnic superstitions” as they are sometimes called (like the Evil Eye, etc) are breeding grounds of demons. Your only hope is Christ. Your fascination with the occult is blocking Christ’s Grace. You’re going to be tempted to write me off as a kook. Someone else peruse scapularkid8’s post history and back me up on this. You need the sacrament of reconciliation NOW. By tampering with the occult you are answering the devil’s call, not God’s.
 
I’m ready to agree with you and back you up Nom-the-Wise. But I often feel the need to put in the grain of salt… perhaps his attraction to those things is the reason he feels called to be an exorcist. I might not being doing a very good job of explaining myself here… He would need to do everything validly in the church and obey the Church teaching regarding supernatural things (don’t ever touch a ouija board… bad bad bad things those are) and perhaps even, like you said, receive the sacrament of reconciliation (couldn’t be a bad thing to do). But I’m not sure I’d write off his vocation as being something dark… but maybe the other side of that coin.

In my own family experiences we’ve seen some things and chalk it up to us just simply being more sensitive to… stuff (the dark shadows and things that go bump, whatever they are)… we’ve never dabbled in any dark stuff… quite the contrary, we loathe anything that has potential to open doors (the house is full enough, thank you). But from having a bit of insight into all that weird stuff (occult and such) I can see how that might lead someone to go running in the other direction (exorcism). They just need to keep in mind that its not a glamorous job and can get down right dangerous (I’ve heard of evil-spirits, demons, whatever they are, physically effecting people).

well, like I said… I might not have been clear enough at all… I’ve been up all night…
 
… perhaps his attraction to those things is the reason he feels called to be an exorcist.
… He would need to do everything validly in the church and obey the Church teaching regarding supernatural things (don’t ever touch a ouija board… bad bad bad things those are)
But I’m not sure I’d write off his vocation as being something dark… but maybe the other side of that coin…
I know what you’re saying, Angelstar, but there is a difference.

First of all, as you say “He would need to do everything validly in the church and obey the Church teaching regarding supernatural things”–He’s *not *doing that. He implies that he is between churches. He needs to explain what he means by that.

And the vocation itself is not “dark;” I never meant to imply that. An Exorcist has the *authority *of the Church to banish those spirits; he doesn’t even claim to be a part of either church, Byzantine or Roman Catholic. Not being rooted, he is vulnerable. He has no mentor in this (as far as I can tell). He is a 19 year old college student. It would be foolish of us to write it off as mere “youthful curiosity.” Studying the occult, even for the purpose of being an exorcist, should be treated like handling nuclear material. He has no authority, and thus no protection. It’s dangerous. I do not take these things lightly. He is in peril right now.
 
I agree with you, completely.

Perhaps, though, it will lead him to communion with the church… I guess that’s my main thought.

Other than that, my own advice is… don’t touch the nuclear material. And maybe it would be helpful to receive some council from a deacon or priest in the church.

Also, I’m sorry if I make little to no sense… I’m trying to correct my sleep cycle. :yawn:
 
A priest told me that at the time he was ordained all priests were also exorcists. It is only been in the end of the 20th century that they were not ordained as exorcists. So, no he is not crazy and it doesn’t mean anything bad on the op’s part. There are now very few exorcists left, because the older priests are dying. I’m not surprised at all that God is calling him. Take a look at the world and whats going on…we are in the midst of a spiritual war and although the sins are all the same it is the magnitude that is so great. I see people being separated even priests & nuns. Look how many people voted of Obama, including priests & nuns…the chose money, socialism. Look at what a comeback the ancient pagan religions are making. Ok I done preaching…go in peace
 
Okay, I’ve gotten some sleep and even *I *think I was overreacting a bit, especially using the word “peril.” (note to self: stop taking self so seriously…😊)

I saw, scapularkid8, your post on the Evil Eye (where you actually posted a *picture *of the Evil Eye :eek:) and it was late and I freaked. Weariness and the Evil Eye do not mix. You mentioned thinking it looked cool as a fashion piece or something, but then immediately said you’d never wear one. Good for you (but beware of thinking things like that “look cool” Remember the words of the Mass–we actually ask to be protected from “the glamor of sin.” That’s no joke).

But you still need guidance. Can’t go it alone. It’s like spelunking. You have to have a buddy. A buddy with a rope and a helmet. And chrism oil on their hands. Sorry to be an alarmist…😊

Happy Palm Sunday everyone!
 
Dear Scapularkid8,

Maybe God is calling you to the priesthood. Exorcists are priests, as they have the authority of the priesthood to cast out demons. Talk with a priest about your desire to perform exorcisms. He will be able to help you.
 
If you’re called to be an exorcist, go to one of the F.S.S.P. seminaries.

You won’t be able to be an exorcist without living a sacred life separated from the world.

You will need to be able to fast 6 days a week, and real fasting not the current business. You will have to be able to live without most of the modern entertainment and belongings people indulge in these days, and you will have to have a clean and chaste heart.
 
well exorcists are priests first…

do you feel called to be a priest?

if you do, maybe you could check out the priesthood and then if you become a priest, and IF you’re then assigned to be an exorcist, then you’ll know it was God’s will for you 🙂

I suggest spending time in Adoration and maybe getting a spiritual director… not to figure out if you need to be an exorcist, but rather if you should be a priest or not.

God bless
 
Okay, I’ve gotten some sleep and even *I *think I was overreacting a bit, especially using the word “peril.” (note to self: stop taking self so seriously…😊)

I saw, scapularkid8, your post on the Evil Eye (where you actually posted a *picture *of the Evil Eye :eek:) and it was late and I freaked. Weariness and the Evil Eye do not mix. You mentioned thinking it looked cool as a fashion piece or something, but then immediately said you’d never wear one. Good for you (but beware of thinking things like that “look cool” Remember the words of the Mass–we actually ask to be protected from “the glamor of sin.” That’s no joke).

But you still need guidance. Can’t go it alone. It’s like spelunking. You have to have a buddy. A buddy with a rope and a helmet. And chrism oil on their hands. Sorry to be an alarmist…😊

Happy Palm Sunday everyone!
I think I need to clarify some things for you:

-A fascination with the occult is a great occasion for sin and danger, I agree. But my response about even your fearful reaction to the picture of a Nazar/Evil Eye is (I really hate to say this but it’s the only words that fit and I don’t mean it personally) but shame on you. How dare any of us here think we have the right to be afraid or superstitious of an Evil Eye or Ouija Board. I avoid them like the plague because they are completely contrary to Christ’s message and promise and are channels of evil, but I don’t fear them because I acknowledge that the battle as someone already said here, is over. We are nobody to fear them because Christ is all powerful. “If God is for us, who can be against us?” This is why what you may see as a careless attitude I have is actually a steady confidence in the Cross of Christ.

-The “between Churches” label is a slight joke and old seeing as I haven’t been active on here for a few months. I am and always will be, I believe, practicing in the Latin Rite. I just happen to have an interest in the East and happen to like its approach to certain theological issues but I don’t really think I’m between churches at all.

-A main reason I feel called to this is that I personally have been a soul that has always been more aware of spiritual movements in our human reality than those that surround me. Christ and many angels always repeatedly said “Be not afraid”…so I’m not. I’m just shocked at how easy it seems that all of you are scared by the servants of the evil one.

-And the “glamor of sin” is not the same thing as the sin of glamor you mentioned above regarding the evil eye being fashionable.We pray to be not deceived by the glamor that sin advertises and manifests (which is attractive to humans), we’re not praying to be free of the sin of glamor although that falls in that category.

And yeah, happy Palm Sunday.
“The King of Glory comes, The Nation rejoices, open the gates before Him, lift up your voices!”
 
Okay, you said “How dare any of us here think we have the right to be afraid or superstitious of an Evil Eye or Ouija Board.” What do you mean by “the right to be afraid”? The reason the Church warns us against such things is that they work. Believing in “Ethnic Superstitions” damages the soul, and blocks Christ’s grace. I’m not making it up. There are evil spirits that manipulate them. I was the one that said the battle is over, that Christ has already won. But the devil and his fallen angels know that they’re going down, and the only way they can hurt God (albeit indirectly) is by hurting us, by tempting us away from him. I have a healthy fear of fire, because it will burn me and leave its mark upon me if I’m not careful. But I can use fire to keep warm, cook food, etc. Occult practices do not work that way. There is no benefit to them. “We are nobody to fear them because Christ is all powerful.” Christ is all powerful; you’re not. I don’t know you personally, but I was really reacting to the few things I know about you from your posts, and as I said, I was sleepy and probably should have just turned off the computer and gone to bed. I’ve already apologized for my overreaction.

What happens if the shepherd creates a pasture for the sheep and says “Stay here, and I will protect you” and the sheep go willfully walking into the wolf’s den thinking “I’m a sheep! I belong to the shepherd and he will protect me.” There is a reason that obedience is a virtue. I’m warning you not to think you can play in the devil’s sandbox and not get sand in your hair, your shoes, your pockets. If you go where Christ has forbidden you to go, that is tantamount to making the choice for Hell, even if you think you’re doing it in God’s name for some greater good.

I happen to be interested in Eastern Theology as well, in those Churches that are still in communion with Catholicism. Deacon Ed B pointed out (and I followed up on it) your by-line and the seeming ambiguity of it. I understand what you mean now.

I have no shame about this. You are not chastizing me. I’ve watched friends lose their souls to this stuff, well meaning souls no longer in communion with the church. I’m warning you, that’s all. Find a mentor, preferably an ordained mentor. Just because Christ is with you does not mean that you are always with Christ.

You also said “Christ and many angels always repeatedly said “Be not afraid”…so I’m not. I’m just shocked at how easy it seems that all of you are scared by the servants of the evil one.” CS Lewis once wrote that it is often the angels that said “Be not afraid” when visiting a mortal, which seemed to suggest something about the experience of meeting angels. I don’t imagine meeting an angel is the warm and fuzzy experience that many believe in today.

Scared of the servants of the evil one? It depends on the situation. I’m not afraid of a lion so long as it is in a cage, and I’m standing where I am *told *to stand: outside of the cage! Without a pure soul and the *authority *of the Church behind you, one has cause to fear. But any sin on your conscience when dealing with the evil one will be used against you to cause you to despair. You’re young and I admire your bravado somewhat, but your attitude borders the foolhardy. Be wise. You need the power of Christ AND the authority of the Church to face demons. Having one without the other is to tempt your own damnation. Maybe you have a vocation to be an exorcist. But you are not one now. If you do have a vocation to be an exorcist, that’s all the more reason for the fallen angels to pay special attention to you, to try and trip you up before you become ordained, and even prevent it if they can. The boastful tone of your “rebuke” of me already suggests a character flaw. Where is your humilty? Your patience? If I’m really so ignorant, why chide me rather than gently correct me? I don’t have to tell you which of the seven deadly sins is called “the sin of the devil.” No, I didn’t think I did.

I’m not embarrassed to tell you this. I’m sure there will be those reading in CAF that will think that we’re both kooks. But you and I know different. And I know a little more than you, I’d bet. I hope I clarified some things for you, at the very least, where I’m coming from.

FYI to other posters: The minor orders (porter, lector, cantor, acolyte, exorcist, subdeacon, deacon) were once the “steps” to ordination, but no longer. The orders have been broken up and given to the laity. We no longer have to be candidates for priesthood to be “lectors” “cantors,” “acolytes” etc. An exorcist is assigned, as Deacon Ed B said, and I stand by what I said on an earlier post: if you want to be an exorcist, that’s a sure sign that you shouldn’t be one. I could be wrong. I don’t think I am.
 
I think I need to clarify some things for you:

-And the “glamor of sin” is not the same thing as the sin of glamor you mentioned above regarding the evil eye being fashionable.We pray to be not deceived by the glamor that sin advertises and manifests (which is attractive to humans), we’re not praying to be free of the sin of glamor although that falls in that category.

And yeah, happy Palm Sunday.
“The King of Glory comes, The Nation rejoices, open the gates before Him, lift up your voices!”
This is called Circular Reasoning. Your premise and conclusion are the same. You essentially agree with me, albeit convolutedly.
 
First thing, get a spiritual director and make sure you talk about this with them.

Second thing is some advice, when speaking with a diocesen vocations director I would refrain from bring up the exorcist idea.

Another thing to understand is that while one might feel a call a call is not truly present until it is confirmed by an actual Call from the Church through a major religious superior or bishop.

I have some concern in my mind when you raised this idea that you feel called to such a limited and unfamiliar ministry. This is something I would explore with a spiritual director as in my mind it could show a focus on something that is unhealthy, then again it may be an actual call and exploring it can only strengthen that.
 
Scapular Kid - you have been given much sound advice. I have had many courses in the seminary, some of which touched on this subject. That said, I know enough to know that it is a special calling, It belongs properly to only the ordained through the power of orders, as the rank or position of exorcist is conferred by the bishop. I know enough to know it is something I would be very fearful of. It takes a special person, with Holy Orders and those powers conferred by that sacrament. To approach it in any other way would be to be playing with fire and I do men fire. It sounds great to talk about with uninformed people. But with those who do this, they do not discuss nor tell of what they have gone through without express permission of their local ordinary. Be careful where you tread.
 
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